Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[rusty_shackleford]

but it's actually pretentious nonsense.

Could you describe why you feel it is pretentious? Why would this be so, as opposed to Final Fantasy or a CRPG or whatever game you think has a deep story and is not pretentious?

you know that weird robin williams movie where he's in a painting or whatever?
yea they basically used that as the plot for the game

[A Chinese opium den]

He would have liked this game...

[Oyster Sauce]

Are we talking about how the character everybody was jerking off to when this thread started is suddenly ugly now

she looks really weird ingame

I'm not letting this one slide

The female characters were, in general, cute.

She looks cute(the 3d character, not the actress )

They almost didn't uglify females

Shadowheart, but ok

One of the few times I've seen a straight improvement in the digitizing for womyn

The better-looking redhead also looks like she was hit with the ugly stick when being digitalized.

you're blind

[rusty_shackleford]

Are we talking about how the character everybody was jerking off to when this thread started is suddenly ugly now

she looks really weird ingame

I'm not letting this one slide

The female characters were, in general, cute.

She looks cute(the 3d character, not the actress )

They almost didn't uglify females

Shadowheart, but ok

One of the few times I've seen a straight improvement in the digitizing for womyn

The better-looking redhead also looks like she was hit with the ugly stick when being digitalized.

you're blind

She looks weird in-game, has very weird facial animations

[KOS-MOS]

Cringe ******* video, thought you guys would enjoy it

Literal reddit browsing fucks made this game, well at least now we have a better reason for why the story sucks *** apart from the fact that it was written by a ***** larping as a frenchy.

The game was always a ****** movie turned based rpg that was supposed to look like a game engine demo.

We went from Baldurs Gate 3 being heralded as the future of RPGs and GOTY to now sucking off a glorified walking simulator games with turned based jack off combat.

"30 people created this game. it amazing !" ........ **** off, its a cgi movie with turned based combat a bug could make that. Hell an entire landmass of bug people have been making these types of games for lesser budgets and better for year.

日本が大好き！！！

Troika with a team of 32 people made VTMB, one of the most complex and groundbreaking RPGs in about 3 years with immense amount of development struggles. That **** is 10 times the game this new frenchy turd is.
If you were still on the fence on the topic of if gaming was dead, its beyond dead, its in hell and all of this is it being tortured.

Am I the only one who prefers the 2019 version?

[KOS-MOS]

Are we talking about how the character everybody was jerking off to when this thread started is suddenly ugly now

She was always ugly

However, she is slightly better than the ****** and the *****

[Irenaeus]

Cringe ******* video, thought you guys would enjoy it

Literal reddit browsing fucks made this game, well at least now we have a better reason for why the story sucks *** apart from the fact that it was written by a ***** larping as a frenchy.

The game was always a ****** movie turned based rpg that was supposed to look like a game engine demo.

We went from Baldurs Gate 3 being heralded as the future of RPGs and GOTY to now sucking off a glorified walking simulator games with turned based jack off combat.

"30 people created this game. it amazing !" ........ **** off, its a cgi movie with turned based combat a bug could make that. Hell an entire landmass of bug people have been making these types of games for lesser budgets and better for year.

日本が大好き！！！

Troika with a team of 32 people made VTMB, one of the most complex and groundbreaking RPGs in about 3 years with immense amount of development struggles. That **** is 10 times the game this new frenchy turd is.
If you were still on the fence on the topic of if gaming was dead, its beyond dead, its in hell and all of this is it being tortured.

Am I the only one who prefers the 2019 version?

I thnk both look bad, fwiw

[KOS-MOS]

Cringe ******* video, thought you guys would enjoy it

Literal reddit browsing fucks made this game, well at least now we have a better reason for why the story sucks *** apart from the fact that it was written by a ***** larping as a frenchy.

The game was always a ****** movie turned based rpg that was supposed to look like a game engine demo.

We went from Baldurs Gate 3 being heralded as the future of RPGs and GOTY to now sucking off a glorified walking simulator games with turned based jack off combat.

"30 people created this game. it amazing !" ........ **** off, its a cgi movie with turned based combat a bug could make that. Hell an entire landmass of bug people have been making these types of games for lesser budgets and better for year.

日本が大好き！！！

Troika with a team of 32 people made VTMB, one of the most complex and groundbreaking RPGs in about 3 years with immense amount of development struggles. That **** is 10 times the game this new frenchy turd is.
If you were still on the fence on the topic of if gaming was dead, its beyond dead, its in hell and all of this is it being tortured.

Am I the only one who prefers the 2019 version?

I thnk both look bad, fwiw

Well the 2019 isn't "modern graphic" but she looks nice

[SoLong]

The game looks and feels French, maybe that's why I'm willing to ignore some of the pretentiousness.

The main gripe I have with it is that you can see the anti-escapism aesop coming from a mile away. I'd honestly prefer a game that explores the fight between the Painters and Writers, that sounds more interesting than a game set in a world that turns out to be fake.

Yes, the family drama actually manages to tug on my black, dried out heartstrings on occasion, but the "real" humans are tits, with both of the women in the group being imbeciles, only the man has his head on straight. A+ for realism in that area at least.

[fork]

but it's actually pretentious nonsense.

Could you describe why you feel it is pretentious? Why would this be so, as opposed to Final Fantasy or a CRPG or whatever game you think has a deep story and is not pretentious?

The story is this convoluted mess with deep emotions, meaning and ambivalence, yet none of the elements make any sense whatsoever.
I have no desire to go any deeper than that, because who cares really. It's serviceable for a playthrough, and that's good enough for me.
I just hate all the ******* who over-analyze this **** to death and think it's a masterpiece of a story, when there are dozens upon dozens of plot holes and inconsistencies.

[Nessa]

One of the few times I've seen a straight improvement in the digitizing for womyn

The digital one is only marginally better from one aspect: the ugly VA is some lesbian filth who thanks to someone (probably @ArcaneLurker ) I saw on a stream with her mommy girlfriend. Few things are more disgusting than real lesbians. Even moreso when the older one is the "mom". They were just sitting on a couch or something. I don't think I even managed 30 seconds and was looking around for eye bleach.

[Norfleet]

You really liked the story?

Let's detach the dork souls faggotry inserted in this JRPG. Did you really liked the story? Because that's one of the worst aspects of the game.

It has it's problems but overall yes, it was very good

Story in a vidya game is like plot in a porno. You expect it to be there, but it's not important.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

One of the few times I've seen a straight improvement in the digitizing for womyn

The digital one is only marginally better from one aspect: the ugly VA is some lesbian filth who thanks to someone (probably @ArcaneLurker ) I saw on a stream with her mommy girlfriend. Few things are more disgusting than real lesbians. Even moreso when the older one is the "mom". They were just sitting on a couch or something. I don't think I even managed 30 seconds and was looking around for eye bleach.

******* disgusting.

[methoxetamine]

You really liked the story?

Let's detach the dork souls faggotry inserted in this JRPG. Did you really liked the story? Because that's one of the worst aspects of the game.

It has it's problems but overall yes, it was very good

Story in a vidya game is like plot in a porno. You expect it to be there, but it's not important.

Depends on both the genre and game.

[Norfleet]

Depends on both the genre and game.

Look, if I actually gave a **** about the story beyond as token window dressing over the part where I PLAY A GAME, I'd be watching the Youtube of it instead.

[Demonic Fate]

I just got to Act 2. Had to laugh when

► Show Spoiler

Scruffy French Dude got randomly murdered by Much Older Scruffy French Dude... only to get instantly replaced by Slightly Older Scruffy French Dude Who Wields the Same Weapons And Also Plays Tank with barely any questions asked.

It felt like one of those vintage D&D campaigns where your fighter, John Baldur, dies to a random crit and gets immediately replaced at the next tavern by Jack Dalbur, who happens to also fight with a greatsword and plate armour. Or maybe it's a subtle way to troll japs - since all japanese dudes look the same to Europeans, they challenged japanese players to tell three similar-looking French characters from each other.

Or perhap they're supposed to be clones/secret relatives/time-travel/alternate-universe versions of the same guy, and they don't recognize each other for $reasons. But I hope not. I'll try to finish at least the second act this week. But for now I don't see why they couldn't keep Gustave around and make Verso a non-party-member ally like Esquie.

Non-story-wise:
- **** beaches, but as challenges for some comedy cosmetics they're totally fine. I almost defeated the volleyball boss at least.
- Maelle is OP, Sciel is strong, Gustave is useful, but I can't manage to make Lune pull her weight, her turns are always off by 1 PA or one missing colour or whatever. I think I need to go find a spongy enemy next to a flag and grind it solo until I find the right combination of skills/lumina/weapons to pull off a decent chain. I haven't used any respec gems yet so I should have plenty of options to try.
- There's a ton of random giant enemies around the overworld that 1HK my whole team, or locations that are marked with a big bad DANGER, presumably signaling I"m underleveled. I wonder how long Act 2 and 3 are, and if I'll be expected to grind to actually tackle those optional challenges (level 23 atm).
- The dodge/parry/whatever system is fine, but it seems like there's a big gap between main-quest-path enemies where you don't really need to parry and barely need to dodge because they hit for like 70dmg, and optional enemies where you can't get hit once or it's an OHK. The exception seem to be the story bosses who are at about the right level - the Master of Lamps did get a couple of my party members down but I still beat both phases on the first try by using some consumables, which feels about right. I'll stick to the main quest for a bit and see if it lands more on the right spot.

[Nico]

- Maelle is OP, Sciel is strong, Gustave is useful, but I can't manage to make Lune pull her weight, her turns are always off by 1 PA or one missing colour or whatever. I think I need to go find a spongy enemy next to a flag and grind it solo until I find the right combination of skills/lumina/weapons to pull off a decent chain. I haven't used any respec gems yet so I should have plenty of options to try.

For Lune, you should have a weapon that reduces the cost of Fire spells. That's the most useful for early to mid-game.
Pretty sure there's a Picto that gives +1AP for applying Burn.

For late Act 2 and the rest of the game, you can find a weapon that gives one Light Pigment when gaining a Fire Pigment.
When you have that, you got your strategy for the rest of the game :

- WildFire applies Burns, gives you 1 Fire + 1 Light pigment
- Thermal Transfer, gives you 1 water pigment + 1 Light Pigment + 4AP back on burning enemies
- Now that you have 4 Pigments : Elemental Genesis (costs only 4AP) , Extreme damage to all enemies, 8 hits.

Rinse and repeat as needed.

And since you only need these 3 skills, the other 3 can be support (healing, raise the dead, etc)

[Statesman]

Started playing a few days ago (up to Act 2):

• There are far too many blacks in Lumiere. Sure, this is not meant to be a historically accurate game (plus the "diversity" could be justified due to story shenanigans), but it is a bit jarring to see among an otherwise idealized vision of post-Fracture Paris. Thankfully, there are no ******* after the Prologue (so far).
• Dodge/Parry is a lot easier to land than what I was lead to believe. Jumping and Gradient Parry are also a lot more lenient too.
• Combat is relatively easy on Expeditioner/Normal. Tints have been an afterthought (specially once Lune had access to Rebirth). Only party-wiped so far on the first few battles (before I got used to the frame differences between parry/dodge), a Chromatic Boss that I mistook for a common enemy and two post-game bosses I wanted to test my current builds with. Overall, the combat is above-average (for a JRPG), mostly due to how much build variation there is.
• The story is decent so far, there is enough worldbuilding to be interesting.
• Areas being pretty corridors with low interactivity gets boring after a while (welcome back FFXIII).
• ► Act 1 Spoilers

  Gustave's death/Verso's Introduction could have been handled better, but anyone crying about his death didn't notice the "Legacy theme" inherent to the game since the first scene.

Non-story-wise:
- Maelle is OP, Sciel is strong, Gustave is useful, but I can't manage to make Lune pull her weight, her turns are always off by 1 PA or one missing colour or whatever. I think I need to go find a spongy enemy next to a flag and grind it solo until I find the right combination of skills/lumina/weapons to pull off a decent chain. I haven't used any respec gems yet so I should have plenty of options to try.
- There's a ton of random giant enemies around the overworld that 1HK my whole team, or locations that are marked with a big bad DANGER, presumably signaling I"m underleveled. I wonder how long Act 2 and 3 are, and if I'll be expected to grind to actually tackle those optional challenges (level 23 atm).

A good build for Lune in Act 1/Act 2 is equipping the Trebuchim weapon, (which grants you a random Stain per Free Aim shot) with Electrify (2 Electric Stains for 1 AP) to spam Mayhem. Genesis is not worth building for until you get the appropriate weapons and/or 100% crit rate. Never bothered with Sciel (outside forced segments) because she requires too much setup vs Verso, Lune and Maelle being ready in Turn 1.

And yes, many of those enemies are meant to be late Act 3/post-game content but you can take down a lot of them with the proper setup. Pictos/Lumina Access matters a lot more than actual Levels in this game. You could also just waste a lot of time slowly wittling them away (if you have enough time to waste dodging/parrying forever) but honestly, you should wait until the damage cap is removed in Act 3.

[Element]

You really liked the story?

Let's detach the dork souls faggotry inserted in this JRPG. Did you really liked the story? Because that's one of the worst aspects of the game.

It has it's problems but overall yes, it was very good

Story in a vidya game is like plot in a porno. You expect it to be there, but it's not important.

If Rage had at least a great story maybe it would have been remembered

[Norfleet]

Could you describe why you feel it is pretentious? Why would this be so, as opposed to Final Fantasy or a CRPG or whatever game you think has a deep story and is not pretentious?

I can tell you right now why *I* think it's pretentious, and I haven't even PLAYED the game or have the slightest idea what's in it: Just listening to people TALK about it is enough to tell me this is a terribly pretentious game because I HAVE NO ******* CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS **** THEY'RE ON ABOUT IS. I know it is a game, and therefore, I *SHOULD* be able to understand the talk about it, but they've renamed everything with pretentious verbiage so I can't. Any NORMAL game, I can understand what people are talking about with no context, but this is just full of pretentious invented terms. Sure hallmark of a pretentious game. Just say "skills" or "perks" like a NORMAL PERSON.

[methoxetamine]

Could you describe why you feel it is pretentious? Why would this be so, as opposed to Final Fantasy or a CRPG or whatever game you think has a deep story and is not pretentious?

I can tell you right now why *I* think it's pretentious, and I haven't even PLAYED the game or have the slightest idea what's in it: Just listening to people TALK about it is enough to tell me this is a terribly pretentious game because I HAVE NO ******* CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS **** THEY'RE ON ABOUT IS. I know it is a game, and therefore, I *SHOULD* be able to understand the talk about it, but they've renamed everything with pretentious verbiage so I can't. Any NORMAL game, I can understand what people are talking about with no context, but this is just full of pretentious invented terms. Sure hallmark of a pretentious game. Just say "skills" or "perks" like a NORMAL PERSON.

Extremely pretentious post tbh

[rustys-name-is-kumar]

this game looks like **** and is full of subhuman frogs

[Norfleet]

and is full of subhuman frogs

It's French. That's to be expected.

[Statesman]

Could you describe why you feel it is pretentious? Why would this be so, as opposed to Final Fantasy or a CRPG or whatever game you think has a deep story and is not pretentious?

I can tell you right now why *I* think it's pretentious, and I haven't even PLAYED the game or have the slightest idea what's in it: Just listening to people TALK about it is enough to tell me this is a terribly pretentious game because I HAVE NO ******* CLUE WHAT ANY OF THIS **** THEY'RE ON ABOUT IS. I know it is a game, and therefore, I *SHOULD* be able to understand the talk about it, but they've renamed everything with pretentious verbiage so I can't. Any NORMAL game, I can understand what people are talking about with no context, but this is just full of pretentious invented terms. Sure hallmark of a pretentious game. Just say "skills" or "perks" like a NORMAL PERSON.

Extremely pretentious post tbh

Please don't bully people with a word allocation cap.

[wndrbr]

[methoxetamine]

It's actually offensive to look at that thing, good lord

[Makirige]

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[Fox1]

They almost didn't uglify females

Shadowheart, but ok


Actually beautified...


lol


Would be more interested if the world looked a bit more alive. World/level looks a bit like from any generic souls clone.

The third one looks nothing like the model. Really sick of the ugly man jaws they put on female characters

[1998]

They almost didn't uglify females

Shadowheart, but ok


Actually beautified...


lol


Would be more interested if the world looked a bit more alive. World/level looks a bit like from any generic souls clone.

The third one looks nothing like the model. Really sick of the ugly man jaws they put on female characters

The second one neither. But at least they improved it.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]