Kingdom Come 2 - Your Same-Sex Adventure Awaits!

[rusty_shackleford]

Another EPIC and BASED Asmongold take!

Helps to remember that just like mark kern admitted in his deleted xweets, all these guys suck off developers to get keys to make excloooooosive content.
My estimate is going to be a 20-25% loss in sales on PC, probably a smaller hit on other platforms but they were already going to sell far less copies overall.

KCD fell down to #11 in wishlists, fyi. Civ VII went up 1 spot to #4, MH Wilds remains #1.

[loregamer]

If I can save 10 chuds from playing KCD2 with some shenanigans, I'll be happy

[MrKike]

Another EPIC and BASED Asmongold take!

Who are these "content creators" supposedly making it their job to **** on KCD2? I have yet to see a single one. All the posing grifters like Assmongler himself have been running defense for it.

[loregamer]

Who are these "content creators" supposedly making it their job to **** on KCD2?

Me, next week

[rusty_shackleford]

Is Vavra even still married? Last reference I can see of his wife is from 2018


Why would he use "wife" in 2018 but "partner" now?

Is Vavra even still married? Last reference I can see of his wife is from 2018


Why would he use "wife" in 2018 but "partner" now?

He started complaining about 'homophobia' in czech in 2021
Selection_024.webp

Vavra made this xweet some hours after I posted those

[1998]

Another EPIC and BASED Asmongold take!

Helps to remember that just like mark kern admitted in his deleted xweets, all these guys suck off developers to get keys to make excloooooosive content.
My estimate is going to be a 20-25% loss in sales on PC, probably a smaller hit on other platforms but they were already going to sell far less copies overall.

KCD fell down to #11 in wishlists, fyi. Civ VII went up 1 spot to #4, MH Wilds remains #1.

Was it ever higher than #11?

I don't think they will lose anything near 20% sales. Some, but not that much.

[rusty_shackleford]

Was it ever higher than #11?

It was #10, it got knocked down by Subnautica 2.

[1998]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

[rusty_shackleford]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

[1998]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Maybe. Even before the first ****** leak just 2 weeks ago it wasn't higher than that. As you said before, besides Europe nobody cares about KCD, gay or not.

[TKVNC]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

[Valter]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

It's still gonna sell more than KCD1, and that's all they need to call it a success and own the chuds.

[rusty_shackleford]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Maybe. Even before the first ****** leak just 2 weeks ago it wasn't higher than that. As you said before, besides Europe nobody cares about KCD, gay or not.

They flatlined around the time the ****** leak + gay henry became more widely known.

Selection_028.webp

(Latest update would have it fall down to 11)

[1998]

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Maybe. Even before the first ****** leak just 2 weeks ago it wasn't higher than that. As you said before, besides Europe nobody cares about KCD, gay or not.

They flatlined around the time the ****** leak + gay henry became more widely known.

(Latest update would have it fall down to 11)

OK, that looks indeed pretty promising. Well, we will see in 2 weeks.

[rusty_shackleford]

OK, that's not really a slide. You are way too optimistic

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

Higher than 2 million, because it took more than 1 million to recoup development costs of KCD, and they said the budget is twice the first.

A wrench being thrown into this is China is currently their #1 region for sales and the game costs half as much there as USA/EU.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's still gonna sell more than KCD1, and that's all they need to call it a success and own the chuds.

It needs to sell far more than KCD1, the development budget is higher. There's no signs of a Witcher 3-tier hit here, which is surely what Embracer was hoping for. It won't be as bad as some of Embracer's recent flops, but it's also not going to save them from going bankrupt.

[TKVNC]

You're too pessimistic, it releases in 9 days, it should be higher than #11, not getting passed up by an indie title with no definite release date.

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

Higher than 2 million, because it took more than 1 million to recoup development costs of KCD, and they said the budget is twice the first.

A wrench being thrown into this is China is currently their #1 region for sales and the game costs half as much there as USA/EU.

First game never broke into the mainstream, doubt this one will either. BG3 had big normgroid reach because of DnD, KCD2 doesn't have that.

Spiting the chuds will cost most of their sales.

Also, FWIW, W3 sold more than 1m pre-order copies. BG3 sold in excess of 3m

[rusty_shackleford]

Definitely not 'most', but enough to hurt them when they already did not have a clear win on their hands.
I was told that Vavra was recently on a podcast where he talked specifically about how devs were just going to bury the woke and hide it from advertising/reviews. This was before the entire gay ******* in bohemia debacle.

[Aryan Spirit]

Definitely going to be interesting to see what their total sales will be. A LOT of people hated KCD1's combat system, and that's going to potentially hurt them too.

[Crusaderknight20]

Let's be honest, this is how we're all feeling rn

[gerey]

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

I think 70m is too low considering the alleged size of the game's script. I'd argue 100m at a minimum.

I imagine they'd need to make 3 to 4 million sales to break even, which they're going to struggle to accomplish because of the clunky gameplay, especially the combat.

how devs were just going to bury the woke and hide it from advertising/reviews

It's why getting rid of DEI department is not going to be enough. The workforce is not being forced to make woke content, they're doing it voluntarily.

[PixiGreen]

Who is they

Scientists who have been doing that research for over a decade. Gays were furious when the results came out and tried to find excuses and explanations. Like now flat-earthers after one of their " influencers" travelled to Antarctica in December to see for himself 24-hour sunlight.

[gastovski]

Earth is flat by the way

[gerey]

Gays were furious when the results came out and tried to find excuses and explanations

God, do I hate ******* - it's a sign of how far we've fallen that they're not viewed with the same amount of disgust as ******.

[Tangerine]

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

I think 70m is too low considering the alleged size of the game's script. I'd argue 100m at a minimum.

I imagine they'd need to make 3 to 4 million sales to break even, which they're going to struggle to accomplish because of the clunky gameplay, especially the combat.

how devs were just going to bury the woke and hide it from advertising/reviews

It's why getting rid of DEI department is not going to be enough. The workforce is not being forced to make woke content, they're doing it voluntarily.

The general rule of thumb I've heard for finding out the yearly cost of an American game is to multiply the size of the team by 200k to get the production costs. That figure includes salary, benefits, tool/equipment, subscriptions, taxes, and other costs. Doing this for Troonguard gets you a figure between 300m-400m, depending on how many years (6-8) you think they were in full production.

In contracting, Slavs are about half the cost of an American developer, so use 100k instead of 200k unless we have reason to believe Czechs are cheaper. If Warhorse is around 250 people and it's been in development since 2019, production costs are going to be between 100m-150m, depending on how many years you think they were in full production.

[Lord of Riva]

Being gay is learned, but there are known genetic and life history factors that make someone more likely (but not certain) to learn it. That shouldn't be surprising since it's true of a lot of other things too.

There is no evidence of genetic factors. That genes influence everything but not this, as vergil said, is not a solid argument either. Sure genetics have an impact of being fat, if you are however it's because you eat too much, that's it.

[Vergil]

Who is they

Scientists who have been doing that research for over a decade.

Like Fauci?

[ArcaneLurker]

Definitely going to be interesting to see what their total sales will be. A LOT of people hated KCD1's combat system, and that's going to potentially hurt them too.

Mordhau created an amazing first person Medieval combat system and it's inspired no one else because seemingly everyone has to stoop to Journo levels of difficulty. Even Mount and Blade is better than KC. They placed too much importance on accurate HEMA animations rather than the actual enjoyment of gameplay.

[1998]

Any idea how many copies they have to sell to break even? Let's assume 70m budget

I think 70m is too low considering the alleged size of the game's script. I'd argue 100m at a minimum.

I imagine they'd need to make 3 to 4 million sales to break even, which they're going to struggle to accomplish because of the clunky gameplay, especially the combat.

how devs were just going to bury the woke and hide it from advertising/reviews

It's why getting rid of DEI department is not going to be enough. The workforce is not being forced to make woke content, they're doing it voluntarily.

The general rule of thumb I've heard for finding out the yearly cost of an American game is to multiply the size of the team by 200k to get the production costs. That figure includes salary, benefits, tool/equipment, subscriptions, taxes, and other costs. Doing this for Troonguard gets you a figure between 300m-400m, depending on how many years (6-8) you think they were in full production.

In contracting, Slavs are about half the cost of an American developer, so use 100k instead of 200k unless we have reason to believe Czechs are cheaper. If Warhorse is around 250 people and it's been in development since 2019, production costs are going to be between 100m-150m, depending on how many years you think they were in full production.

That's too high. Those 250 include community managers, other marketing people, HR etc. They won't get anything near 100k. You would also need to consider marketing spendings in your calculation. If the total budget of 1 was around 40M, it's more likely this on is probably max. 80M.

[Rand]

Definitely going to be interesting to see what their total sales will be. A LOT of people hated KCD1's combat system, and that's going to potentially hurt them too.

Mordhau created an amazing first person Medieval combat system and it's inspired no one else because seemingly everyone has to stoop to Journo levels of difficulty. Even Mount and Blade is better than KC. They placed too much importance on accurate HEMA animations rather than the actual enjoyment of gameplay.

KCD is accurate, but accurate isn't fun.

Example: fighting a well armored enemy with a sword.
Most of what you do is poke at them with it and use the point to shove them around while doing minor blunt damage because swords are poor against armor.
So you jostle and shove and poke and it's dull and takes forever.
(Use a mace or hammer; you'll find it works so much better)
It's realistic, but it's boring.
Say what you will about Skyrim, but the animations for fighting and finishers with all weapons look pretty cool and much more interesting.
Only a purist wants to ALWAYS exhaust and bruise the opponent until he stumbles, then use a armor-piercing dagger to go for the vitals while he's pinned.

Don't get me wrong, it should be a legitimate strategy, but so should "superhuman" dexterous, accurate strikes against vulnerable points instead if you've built your character for it.
KCD doesn't give you the choice. It's grubby super realistic combat or nothing.