Junior Adventurer's Guild - January: Gothic

[Vergil]

For a really long time I've heard that Gothic is a great game. I was curious but never had enough time for it. Some folks even said that it's a contender to Morrowind for a title of best yarrrPG evah.

To show you some little things that caught my eye, we begin with

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an obvious RPGHQ reference, kudos to devs.

But regretfully the first enemy in the game is better killed by barefist stunlocking rather than dramatically picking up a sword out of the dead guy to frantically shuffle it through obnoxious inventory.


On the plus side, there's some platforming and pseudo-hidden loot right in the beginning. "Exploration", yay.


Edgy! Me likey. I wonder whether somebody will explain who the sod is.


Near the hangman there's a carnivorous chocobo and some arrows that for some reason weren't picked by local scavengers despite resource scarcity. Maybe it's because they glitch like mad - you can't pick them from some angles.


The end of tutorial valley shows the dramatic view of the first town. And the railing, lovingly niggerrigged by local edgelord-but-carebear criminals.

All in all, I've tried the game for about an hour. And I think I'll cave and drop it. Because:

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- Dem controls.
- Dat plot.
- Dat quality writing.
- Open world without respawning mobs or merchant inventories.
- Stunlock as a main melee tactic (so far).

I'd say that it's not even close to Morrowind. Production quality is on par with Kenshi or something. Sad.

Can I say something and you promise not to get upset?

[Tweed]

For a really long time I've heard that Gothic is a great game. I was curious but never had enough time for it. Some folks even said that it's a contender to Morrowind for a title of best yarrrPG evah.

To show you some little things that caught my eye, we begin with

► Show Spoiler

an obvious RPGHQ reference, kudos to devs.

But regretfully the first enemy in the game is better killed by barefist stunlocking rather than dramatically picking up a sword out of the dead guy to frantically shuffle it through obnoxious inventory.


On the plus side, there's some platforming and pseudo-hidden loot right in the beginning. "Exploration", yay.


Edgy! Me likey. I wonder whether somebody will explain who the sod is.


Near the hangman there's a carnivorous chocobo and some arrows that for some reason weren't picked by local scavengers despite resource scarcity. Maybe it's because they glitch like mad - you can't pick them from some angles.


The end of tutorial valley shows the dramatic view of the first town. And the railing, lovingly niggerrigged by local edgelord-but-carebear criminals.

All in all, I've tried the game for about an hour. And I think I'll cave and drop it. Because:

► Show Spoiler

- Dem controls.
- Dat plot.
- Dat quality writing.
- Open world without respawning mobs or merchant inventories.
- Stunlock as a main melee tactic (so far).

I'd say that it's not even close to Morrowind. Production quality is on par with Kenshi or something. Sad.

***.

[Roderick]

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[Vergil]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

[DagothGeas5]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

I would vote for Risen. Only dabbled a little with the second one myself, but it left a good impression.

[Tweed]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

I'd like to subject all the noobs to Gothic 2 + NotR first pls.

EDIT: And if everyone likes Gothic it should be an obvious choice anyhow.

[Roderick]

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[Finarfin]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

I'd say Gothic 1&2 and Risen 1&2, weirdly enough Gothic 3 and Risen 3 both suck

[Vergil]

weirdly enough Gothic 3 and Risen 3 both suck

Risen 3 is the only one I beat.

[DagothGeas5]

I found someone named Mud. I wanted to ask, he got stuck on a fire post in the past before I could finally find him, but now he is completely gone after I missed a ladder and jumped instead in the Old Camp, and I have been unable to find him since. Is there some way to find him again? Does he have some "respawn point" or something? I can go on without if it comes to that, but I wished to see how he behaved in the world and his disappearance cut it short.

Edit:
I found him. For anyone reading this that might find it useful, he seems to go back to his shack if lost. His shack is the one in the area where he is met, in the area that goes downward from where Snaf the chef cooks in the Old Camp.

[Tweed]

I found someone named Mud. I wanted to ask, he got stuck on a fire post in the past before I could finally find him, but now he is completely gone after I missed a ladder and jumped instead in the Old Camp, and I have been unable to find him since. Is there some way to find him again? Does he have some "respawn point" or something? I can go on without if it comes to that, but I wished to see how he behaved in the world and his disappearance cut it short.

Mud in a nutshell:

[Tinky Winky]

I found someone named Mud. I wanted to ask, he got stuck on a fire post in the past before I could finally find him, but now he is completely gone after I missed a ladder and jumped instead in the Old Camp, and I have been unable to find him since. Is there some way to find him again? Does he have some "respawn point" or something? I can go on without if it comes to that, but I wished to see how he behaved in the world and his disappearance cut it short.

Mud in a nutshell:

Funny because I'm playing Baldur's Gate 1 for the first time (with the orininal saga of course, not beamshit's ****) as a good party and he is the only non-evil person I've killed so far.

[wndrbr]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

I'd say Gothic 1&2 and Risen 1&2, weirdly enough Gothic 3 and Risen 3 both suck

Risen 3 is better than Risen 2

[rusty_shackleford]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

I'd say Gothic 1&2 and Risen 1&2, weirdly enough Gothic 3 and Risen 3 both suck

Gothic 3 is pretty good with the right mods, the community did a lot of work on it.

[Oyster Sauce]

► done

I've played a couple hours before, but this is my first time beating it. Has a strong start, gets worse the further you get. Currently being gaslit HARD about how good this game is to the point where people in chat are actually making up features that don't exist as reasons why it's a great game.

[rusty_shackleford]

oyster sauce having a complete meltdown in chat over gothic right now, getting **** on by everyone

[Nooneatall]

► done

I've played a couple hours before, but this is my first time beating it. Has a strong start, gets worse the further you get. Currently being gaslit HARD about how good this game is to the point where people in chat are actually making up features that don't exist as reasons why it's a great game.

This game kind of sucks, do you recommend I finish it anyway?

[rusty_shackleford]

actual screenshot of him melting down

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[logincrash]

man **** this guy

Read it in the cholo gangbanger voice:
"So you think you're one of the wild boys, esse? Try it with me, homes..."

[Oyster Sauce]

► done

I've played a couple hours before, but this is my first time beating it. Has a strong start, gets worse the further you get. Currently being gaslit HARD about how good this game is to the point where people in chat are actually making up features that don't exist as reasons why it's a great game.

Update: they continued lying about the game and telling me that bad things were actually good

[Oyster Sauce]

► done

I've played a couple hours before, but this is my first time beating it. Has a strong start, gets worse the further you get. Currently being gaslit HARD about how good this game is to the point where people in chat are actually making up features that don't exist as reasons why it's a great game.

This game kind of sucks, do you recommend I finish it anyway?

It's easy enough that you can just autopilot through it if you want.

[1998]

Don't worry, only 7 more games to beat, with at least 5 of them worse than G1

[Lord of Riva]

This makes me want to give Risen another try. Would we have to get through all the Gothic games before adding Risen as an option on the poll?

Well I have continued with G2 now with my son. So I would prefer going through that as well.

Risen was quite fun If I remember correctly, however I don't think I finished it.

[Lord of Riva]

I found someone named Mud. I wanted to ask, he got stuck on a fire post in the past before I could finally find him, but now he is completely gone after I missed a ladder and jumped instead in the Old Camp, and I have been unable to find him since. Is there some way to find him again? Does he have some "respawn point" or something? I can go on without if it comes to that, but I wished to see how he behaved in the world and his disappearance cut it short.

Mud is a character that is supposed to annoy you, while I do not know how extensive his dialogue actually is, I do believe he is just repeating the same sentences over and over every 30 secs or so to annoy you and runs away when fighting happens. You are better of killing him, which to make a point that it is a joke does give you 0 XP.

I think he may respawn in the old camp, he did when I missed killing him the first time by running away this time around. His house should be in the inner ring going left from thorus

[Lord of Riva]

► done

I've played a couple hours before, but this is my first time beating it. Has a strong start, gets worse the further you get. Currently being gaslit HARD about how good this game is to the point where people in chat are actually making up features that don't exist as reasons why it's a great game.

What is it you don't like though? Please tell us plebs that are not in chat.

[Roderick]

I killed him immediately.

[DagothGeas5]

I found someone named Mud. I wanted to ask, he got stuck on a fire post in the past before I could finally find him, but now he is completely gone after I missed a ladder and jumped instead in the Old Camp, and I have been unable to find him since. Is there some way to find him again? Does he have some "respawn point" or something? I can go on without if it comes to that, but I wished to see how he behaved in the world and his disappearance cut it short.

Mud is a character that is supposed to annoy you, while I do not know how extensive his dialogue actually is, I do believe he is just repeating the same sentences over and over every 30 secs or so to annoy you and runs away when fighting happens. You are better of killing him, which to make a point that it is a joke does give you 0 XP.

I think he may respawn in the old camp, he did when I missed killing him the first time by running away this time around. His house should be in the inner ring going left from thorus

I did see the resemblance with the character from Baldur's Gate 1, like Tweed posted, immediately, so I figured, but I find it amusing to keep characters like that around (unless he will impar me too much, at which point I will get creative but not I won't kill him).
He does indeed go back to his shack if lost, just came back to report I found him again and updated my post for anyone that wants to find him (or evade him), but I thank you for the information! I wonder who started with the adding characters like him in video games. Aside from the guy from Baldur's Gate 1, another that comes to mind is the Adoring Fan from Oblivion, but he is nowhere as pestering as Mud or the other guy.

[Nooneatall]

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The enemies are so nice, patiently waiting for me to eat my red blueberries

[Roderick]

Haven't played in 2 days award

[SpellSword]

Crashed on start...

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► But after editing the .ini file... still not right...

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► GOT IT!

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(The solution was to set the compatibility mode to "Run in 640 by 480 screen resolution")


Time to read the manual.

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► What the strange text in the manual actually says...

I summon the shadows of the night
I command the powers of darkness; creatures born of magic
Fight at my bidding, soulless beings kill when I desire.
Freedom is merely a sentiment
Whereas will-power means true strength.
Are you still eager to face these creatures?
And play their game of life and death?
Just for the sake of freedom?

Not sure if the text is intended to be like that or if even the manual is fighting me

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Although it has been a bit of a rocky start I'm looking forward to exploring Gothic.