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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:24
Xenich wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:21
That brings up a good point though. Why allow for a load outside of death anyway then? Why is save scumming conversations, lock picking, etc.. "acceptable", but reloading a **** poor RNG chest not?
none of that is acceptable and you shouldn't be able to reload, I agree.


Don't really know why you thought this was a "gotcha!"
I didn't.

I know you would like it (I have read your arguments) and I also think it would make the games very interesting, but I also know that the majority of gamers out there (even ones who claim they are) would absolutely hate such an implementation.

You don't get to where we are today with all the ******** convivence features in games and have a player base that would be receptive to that. It would be a **** storm of whining if a game was released like that, but it would be cool.
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Xenich wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:24
I'm a gay ****** who drinks ****** **** and I've lost the argument
I didn't feel like arguing the right way so I used totally legitimate mechanics to get an outcome that I wanted without actually putting in effort :D
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:25
Xenich wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:24
Please tell me you understand the argument of someone wanting to stop something that is impossible to stop...
this is the exact reason why canada now has open air government funded heroin dens btw
Not the same thing to be honest.

People cheating a game isn't a problem for anyone but the cheater.

The problem is with developers who listen to whiners and cheaters about things that can not be stopped and really have no positive effect on anything other than the "peice of mind" of someone who feels better because someone can't do something they don't want them doing.

If drug users didn't have any effect on society, it would be a non-issue, but they do... so it makes sense that there be steps to stop them from using drugs.

Again, not the same thing.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:28
Xenich wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 02:24
I'm a gay ****** who drinks ****** **** and I've lost the argument
I didn't feel like arguing the right way so I used totally legitimate mechanics to get an outcome that I wanted without actually putting in effort :D
Well, umm... ok then.
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Playing Metroid Prime. I don't like how this game gates your progression.

The path is blocked by a block of ice. That's a good and a reasonable type of gating, once you get your hands on a fire-based weapon you get this 'aha!' moment because you immediately know that you need to go back and melt these ice blocks. The path is blocked and you can only proceed using a magnetic rail system? Again, that's perfectly fine and you get the 'aha' moment after acquiring the spiderball upgrade because you've already seen these magnetic rails everywhere.

But in addition to the obvious and easy to remember roadblocks, the game also uses the annoying "the path ahead is blocked by a large rock with cracks in it, now try to guess what weapon you need to use to blow it up". Hmm, maybe a missile? No, the rock remains intact. Maybe a charged shot from a beam gun? No, the rock stays the same. Maybe I should turn into a ball and use a morph ball bomb? No, the rock is still in place. Maybe I should fire a super missile? Yeah you can use scanning function on the destructible rock, but instead of a normal answer like 'this rock can be destroyed with a power bomb", it says "analysis says that this unstable rock formation is made of benzo-ligma material that can only be damaged with c-beams from the tanhauser gate". I'm not watching some 3 hours long Vaati video to find out what's that supposed to mean.

Found an ice gun. My first guess was "i can now explore those flamey areas in the magma caves! i will use this gun to freeze/douse the lava patches on the ground". Nah, te ice gun is only useful at opening the white-coded doors.

So yeah, most of the game's roadblocks are basically just color-coded doors, and rocks that can only be damaged with a specific explosive. Really creative stuff.
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ August 14th, 2024, 03:45
Playing Metroid Prime. I don't like how this game gates your progression.

The path is blocked by a block of ice, get a fire beam and melt it. That's good and reasonable, once you get your hands on a fire-based weapon you immediately get this 'aha!' moment because you know where to go. The path is blocked and you can only proceed using a magnetic rail system? Again, that's perfectly fine and you get the 'aha' moment after acquiring the spiderball upgrade because you've already seen these magnetic rails everywhere.

But in addition to the obvious and easy to remember roadblocks, the game also uses the annoying "the path ahead is blocked by a large rock with cracks in it, now try to guess what weapon you need to use to blow it up". Hmm, maybe a missile? No, the rock remains intact. Maybe a charged shot from a beam gun? No, the rock stays the same. Maybe I should turn into a ball and use a morph ball bomb? No, the rock is still in place. Maybe I should fire a super missile? Yeah you can use scanning function on the destructible rock, but instead of a normal answer like 'this rock can be destroyed with a power bomb", it says "analysis says that this unstable rock formation is made of benzo-ligma material that can only be damaged with c-beams from the tanhauser gate". I'm not watching some 3 hours long Vaati video to find out what's that supposed to mean.

Found an ice gun. My first guess was "i can now explore those flamey areas in the magma caves! i will use this gun to freeze/douse the lava patches on the ground". Nah, te ice gun is only useful at opening the white-coded doors.

So yeah, most of the game's roadblocks are basically just color-coded doors, and rocks that can only be damaged with a specific explosive. Really creative stuff.
nintendo just took color code key design from 90s FPS and made a game around it, nintendo cultists thought it was the most revolutionary thing ever made like any other time nintendo takes existing mechanics and makes a game around it
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Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ August 13th, 2024, 22:54
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 13th, 2024, 22:28
Val the Moofia Boss wrote: ↑ August 13th, 2024, 22:27
Currently reading through the visual novel trilogy World End Economica
Okay but what games are you playing?
I've been playing WoW, preparing my characters for The War Within expansion that launches in a week and a half.

Upon logging in, you are immediately put into a 5 minute long recap cinematic. You get... how many names and terms thrown at you? Dark Titan Sargeras? Colossal blade? Magni Bronzebeard? Speaker? Cries of Azeroth? Mad Titan? N'zoth? Xal'atath? Cursed blade? Old Gods? The Shadowlands? Anduin Wrynn? Domination magics? Primal Dragon Iridikron? Titans? The Dark Heart? Radiant Song? Alleria Windrunner? The Harbinger? The engimatic Locus-Walker? Void Lord Dimensius? And on and on it goes. I felt like I was starting War of Dragons (the 20th season of Pili) on Netflix. Massive info dump of years and years of different storylines. Now I have been following the Warcraft story, but even for me it reeks of a soap opera that has been going on for 20+ years and is near impenetrable to outsiders.


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We then get another janky ingame cutscene. For a billion dollar game that charges its millions of players $205 to play per year ($50 box expansions + $15 monthly subscription) and is Blizzard's golden goose, and the Worldsoul Saga that was marketed on the merits of its story to rival the competition, it is disappointing they didn't step up their cutscene game. Come on Blizzard. You're capable of better. Or was. Where did the people who made their hours and hours of in-engine Starcraft 2 cutscenes go?


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You have to admit though. Those janky ingame cutscenes blow XIV ones out of the water every single goddamn time. XIV looks like it was made by some amateur hobby devs.
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stop playing retail WoW, Blizzard is dead and libtards are raping the corpse
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speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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I never really quite understood how these expansions work. When you say "gone", that means you can't access any of Wrath of the Lich King's storyline and content?. If so that's pretty terrible.
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KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:55
I never really quite understood how these expansions work. When you say "gone", that means you can't access any of Wrath of the Lich King's storyline and content?. If so that's pretty terrible.
Partially.

The raid and dungeon content is still there but when the game progresses to the next expansion hardly anyone actually bothers to do the old stuff. Also, Blizzard disables certain achievements and rewards because getting them with an overleveled party would be too easy.

Then there are cases like the Mists of Pandaria expansion where maps actually changed throughout the expansion and if you missed that you'd be stuck with the version where everything was just already done and the storyline was effectively over as far as the game world is concerned.

Private servers can get around many of those issues in a multitude of ways, as long as they don't get too popular at least. Then Blizzard's ****** lawyers start complaining.
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KnightoftheWind wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:55
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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I never really quite understood how these expansions work. When you say "gone", that means you can't access any of Wrath of the Lich King's storyline and content?. If so that's pretty terrible.
it's mostly that since they went through with Cataclysm classic, all the level 1-60 areas are revamped (not exactly in a good way), they introduce new races (one of which is a cringe furry race), and talents and **** all are wildly different.

it just ****** me off since i made like a dozen characters in Wrath Classic i was levelling, and now they're ruined because if i wanted to continue levelling them i'd have to do it in the Cataclysm version of the zones.

so fuggit, private servers it is. should've done it in the first place.
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Wow, that really is terrible then. World of Warcraft really is a meme after all :pipe-thinking:
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Finished WarioWare Inc. Weird and amusing collection of 4-second microgames. I particularly liked the city pop song that played during the taxi level and the Lady Snowblood-knock-off theme in the female samurai level.
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Finished Super Mario Land. The physics are terrible and it's incredibly short at only 12 levels that can be finished in about 30 minutes when played perfectly, I can see why it was forgotten and displaced by the much better sequel. At least the two vehicle sections were a fun change of pace.

I also tried out Earthbound and the combat was terrible, the music and battle screens incredibly off-putting.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 13th, 2024, 19:43
Darkestfantasy wrote: ↑ August 13th, 2024, 19:34
I mean when interrogating people. I wanna avoid getting something wrong so I go back to the last autosave the game made
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Do you even need to do this in LA Noire? I thought you could replay each crime scene.

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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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why are you playing as a ******
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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why are you playing as a ******
That is quite offensive to Orks. In most settings, they actually possess reason, speech, writing system(s), cities, culture and sometimes even a twisted sort of moral code.
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Statesman wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 00:45
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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why are you playing as a ******
That is quite offensive to Orks. In most settings, they actually possess reason, speech, writing system(s), cities, culture and sometimes even a twisted sort of moral code.
They're ugly which is the worst sin you can commit.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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Zug Zug brothers :turtle:
why are you playing as a ******
*zugger
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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Zug Zug brothers :turtle:
why are you playing as a ******
youd probably be one of the **** playing a blood elf wouldnt you
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ August 12th, 2024, 01:29
Started Cave Story. It's a lot of fun. I abandoned it many moons ago because I stopped getting gun upgrades at level 3 and it ****** me off.
Going to kill the coin locker baby who made this for making me go through unskippable cutscenes every time I die to a boss
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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 02:25
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 15th, 2024, 11:42
speaking of WoW...

decided to give private servers a try since Wrath Classic is gone now

some weird **** in the Warmane servers i chose like cross-faction dungeon finder for lower level **** and some few oddities here and there, but i'm glad i can enjoy peak WoW without paying a cent to the hacks at Blizzard.


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why are you playing as a ******
youd probably be one of the **** playing a blood elf wouldnt you
I haven't made a non belf in over a decade
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 07:32
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 02:25
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:28

why are you playing as a ******
youd probably be one of the **** playing a blood elf wouldnt you
I haven't made a non belf in over a decade
you're the problem with WoW
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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:13
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 07:32
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 02:25


youd probably be one of the **** playing a blood elf wouldnt you
I haven't made a non belf in over a decade
you're the problem with WoW
Blood elves are the only thing besides the Lich King that look cool.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:30
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:13
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 07:32

I haven't made a non belf in over a decade
you're the problem with WoW
Blood elves are the only thing besides the Lich King that look cool.
***.
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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 12:08
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:30
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:13


you're the problem with WoW
Blood elves are the only thing besides the Lich King that look cool.
***.
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I'm just stating the facts.
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Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 11:13
Vergil wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 07:32
Manny V wrote: ↑ August 17th, 2024, 02:25


youd probably be one of the **** playing a blood elf wouldnt you
I haven't made a non belf in over a decade
you're the problem with WoW
there are a lot more problems with WoW.
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Roguey wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 21:22
Finished Super Mario Land. The physics are terrible and it's incredibly short at only 12 levels that can be finished in about 30 minutes when played perfectly, I can see why it was forgotten and displaced by the much better sequel. At least the two vehicle sections were a fun change of pace.

I also tried out Earthbound and the combat was terrible, the music and battle screens incredibly off-putting.

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