No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[SoLong]

About the last update, who the hell capitalizes things like that outside of writing rules text?

It is the actual name of the elixir. So it's a proper noun and therefore should be capitalized.

Imagine a pre-modern world that would consider braiding inherently unmanly, especially one with hyperbelligerent pint-sized ale-drinking axe-wielding murder-hobbyists walking the streets with braided beards and hairs.

Depends on the braid I guess? Any culture that considers long hair unmanly would consider braiding unmanly by extension since long hair is a requirement. Any society advanced enough to develop fashion could come up with something like this.

I agree with the rest you said though.

[Luckmann]

It is the actual name of the elixir. So it's a proper noun and therefore should be capitalized.

No. Ignoring the fact that that is Pathfinder 3e and that it's something that's been included in its current incarnation only to appease the alphabet crowd, it's rules text. It's as if you'd refer to all longswords as "Longsword" or a bag of holding as "Bag of Holding". An in-universe text should be written in an in-universe manner, and random capitalization comes across as immediately jarring precisely because it doesn't read as a proper noun. It is as if I would write in my journal: "Today I got myself a Jug of Milk".

"Elixir of Sex Shifing", capitalized or otherwise, isn't actually a thing in ("official") D&D, not even in 5e, from what I can tell, and historically such things have been associated with objects such as the (Cursed) Girdle of Opposite Gender. In fact, benign permanent "by request" gender-bending is essentially Miracle-tier deific fiat in the Forgotten Realms, as according to the word of god of chief degenerate, Ed Greenwood.

Imagine a pre-modern world that would consider braiding inherently unmanly, especially one with hyperbelligerent pint-sized ale-drinking axe-wielding murder-hobbyists walking the streets with braided beards and hairs.

Depends on the braid I guess? Any culture that considers long hair unmanly would consider braiding unmanly by extension since long hair is a requirement.

Historically, it has literally been the opposite. Braiding is first and foremost something born out of necessity when dealing with long hair, and historically societies that have favored long hair (whether by men and/or women) have also considered it normal for those to braid their hair. I cannot think of a single real-life culture that has at any point favored long hair by a gender while considering braiding antithetical to the proper behavior of said gender - although braiding in itself has certainly fallen out of favor at times, sometimes driven by an upper class that wants to flaunt the fact that they can have long hair and choose not to braid it, as a subtle symbol of the fact that they don't need to work.

Grow your hair out and go for a run, get into a fist fight, or just try to do practically anything "in the rough" and you'll quickly realize why that is.

These are the things you learn when you have a girlfriend with hip-length hair and more than a passing interest in historical fashions.

[CheesusCrust]

why everyone use words like "masculine" and "feminine" towards things that don't describe sceletal/muscular structure, aka things specifically and genetically related for a man or a woman? braids, dolls, cars, robots - they don't mess with your hormones and don't change chromosomes.

men can have long hair, women can have it short - it doesn't matter because it won't change their gender. it's trannie's mentality and "logic" that dictates **** like "i wore a pink shirt - I'm a girly girl now, 100% wahman".

and we all know that sex changing potion is obviously libtards' invention for crazy fetishists from TQABCDDLVJVJKGJ+++™

[rusty_shackleford]

masc/femme is more tumblr speak, you notice it when you see it
just like non-southerners using "y'all"

[DagothGeas5]

I am waiting for, IF , they will add support for modding to truly properly play this game as I want to mod Baeloth into existence and add the possibility for Nere and Zevlor to be companions, but I wanted to show my support while I wait! The amount of insanity that was fixed or improved/smoothed out is insane.
I was crushed when it released and I saw the diverse-brigade everywhere I looked, it felt much more like the dark fantasy I hoped for when people were vomiting blood and getting nightmares after using their powers. Did you guys see they removed scenes from Early Access that also added to, in my opinion, the overall dread that first was more present about? Like next to Astarion at the start where you find the wounded Illithid, there were once fishermen there that were clawing to help one of the fishermen get "his daughter" out of the wreckage. Or on the Nautiloid, where there were those thralls that would jump off the ship and be, overall, just delirius and broken. I miss that game.

[Luckmann]

The more I read it, the worse it actually gets. It starts with "have been erased or heavily redacted". How? What is this actually meant to convey, meaningfully? This is presumably a journal made out of parchment, papyrus, or, less likely, coarse paper or even wood. Pages written upon with quills and ink, or mixes of binders and charcoal. There's no ******* erasers. How were these previous pages "erased"? And redacted? Are pages upon pages just blotted the **** out with new, black ink, for the overt purpose of self-censoring your own journal, but still leaving this page of unhinged dysphoria untouched?

The more I think about it, and the more I re-read this, the angrier I get. Writing shouldn't be allowed to be this bad. I can't help but to think that some loon ***** wrote this, and everyone around it are too oversocialized to dare tell it that it's ****, fearing social repercussions for calling the emperor naked. The only visual this leaves me with is actually that this is some incomprehensible schizoid journal full of ink-blots and half-torn pages, but if that was the intent, there would be so many better ways to describe it.

Goddamn it.

[DagothGeas5]

The more I read it, the worse it actually gets. It starts with "have been erased or heavily redacted". How? What is this actually meant to convey, meaningfully? This is presumably a journal made out of parchment, papyrus, or, less likely, coarse paper or even wood. Pages written upon with quills and ink, or mixes of binders and charcoal. There's no ******* erasers. How were these previous pages "erased"? And redacted? Are pages upon pages just blotted the **** out with new, black ink, for the overt purpose of self-censoring your own journal, but still leaving this page of unhinged dysphoria untouched?

The more I think about it, and the more I re-read this, the angrier I get. Writing shouldn't be allowed to be this bad. I can't help but to think that some loon ***** wrote this, and everyone around it are too oversocialized to dare tell it that it's ****, fearing social repercussions for calling the emperor naked. The only visual this leaves me with is actually that this is some incomprehensible schizoid journal full of ink-blots and half-torn pages, but if that was the intent, there would be so many better ways to describe it.

Goddamn it.

I concur with Luckmann. I was reading about and I do believe that Nocturne, unless completely rewritten, is one of those things that are best left deleted from the game. Even just saying he was feminine and braiding hair and all the rest, is still not enough of a scrub. When I skimmed through the game I ended up killing the whole of the enclave after getting in uninvited and snooping where I shouldn't have, so I missed him, glad I did seeing all the convoluted "lore" they did to try and just jam him somewhere. I remember Edwin becoming a chick because of some cursed belt or something, the weight they (developers/writers, whoever it was) want to place on this one character is grating to even read in passing.

[orinEsque]

The more I read it, the worse it actually gets. It starts with "have been erased or heavily redacted". How? What is this actually meant to convey, meaningfully? This is presumably a journal made out of parchment, papyrus, or, less likely, coarse paper or even wood. Pages written upon with quills and ink, or mixes of binders and charcoal. There's no ******* erasers. How were these previous pages "erased"? And redacted? Are pages upon pages just blotted the **** out with new, black ink, for the overt purpose of self-censoring your own journal, but still leaving this page of unhinged dysphoria untouched?

The more I think about it, and the more I re-read this, the angrier I get. Writing shouldn't be allowed to be this bad. I can't help but to think that some loon ***** wrote this, and everyone around it are too oversocialized to dare tell it that it's ****, fearing social repercussions for calling the emperor naked. The only visual this leaves me with is actually that this is some incomprehensible schizoid journal full of ink-blots and half-torn pages, but if that was the intent, there would be so many better ways to describe it.

Goddamn it.

I concur with Luckmann. I was reading about and I do believe that Nocturne, unless completely rewritten, is one of those things that are best left deleted from the game. Even just saying he was feminine and braiding hair and all the rest, is still not enough of a scrub. When I skimmed through the game I ended up killing the whole of the enclave after getting in uninvited and snooping where I shouldn't have, so I missed him, glad I did seeing all the convoluted "lore" they did to try and just jam him somewhere. I remember Edwin becoming a chick because of some cursed belt or something, the weight they (developers/writers, whoever it was) want to place on this one character is grating to even read in passing.

I'd rather have access to all vendors in the game. If you want to disable him, Chris' original mod does it. I'm not in favour of removing NPCs.

[Nessa]

OK thanks to this mod I didn't massacre the deep gnomes for the first time. Thanks for that.

[Ty6]

The more I read it, the worse it actually gets. It starts with "have been erased or heavily redacted". How? What is this actually meant to convey, meaningfully? This is presumably a journal made out of parchment, papyrus, or, less likely, coarse paper or even wood. Pages written upon with quills and ink, or mixes of binders and charcoal. There's no ******* erasers. How were these previous pages "erased"? And redacted? Are pages upon pages just blotted the **** out with new, black ink, for the overt purpose of self-censoring your own journal, but still leaving this page of unhinged dysphoria untouched?

The more I think about it, and the more I re-read this, the angrier I get. Writing shouldn't be allowed to be this bad. I can't help but to think that some loon ***** wrote this, and everyone around it are too oversocialized to dare tell it that it's ****, fearing social repercussions for calling the emperor naked. The only visual this leaves me with is actually that this is some incomprehensible schizoid journal full of ink-blots and half-torn pages, but if that was the intent, there would be so many better ways to describe it.

Goddamn it.

I concur with Luckmann. I was reading about and I do believe that Nocturne, unless completely rewritten, is one of those things that are best left deleted from the game. Even just saying he was feminine and braiding hair and all the rest, is still not enough of a scrub. When I skimmed through the game I ended up killing the whole of the enclave after getting in uninvited and snooping where I shouldn't have, so I missed him, glad I did seeing all the convoluted "lore" they did to try and just jam him somewhere. I remember Edwin becoming a chick because of some cursed belt or something, the weight they (developers/writers, whoever it was) want to place on this one character is grating to even read in passing.

The ideal solution would be to remove any references to gender confusion/change and have them use their original male name of Reginald. Would need to use ai to change some of shadow hearts dialogue maybe though? Probably not worth it for a relatively minor npc and they only show up towards the end of act 3 anyway.

[SoLong]

Imagine a pre-modern world that would consider braiding inherently unmanly, especially one with hyperbelligerent pint-sized ale-drinking axe-wielding murder-hobbyists walking the streets with braided beards and hairs.

Depends on the braid I guess? Any culture that considers long hair unmanly would consider braiding unmanly by extension since long hair is a requirement.

Historically, it has literally been the opposite. Braiding is first and foremost something born out of necessity when dealing with long hair, and historically societies that have favored long hair (whether by men and/or women) have also considered it normal for those to braid their hair. I cannot think of a single real-life culture that has at any point favored long hair by a gender while considering braiding antithetical to the proper behavior of said gender - although braiding in itself has certainly fallen out of favor at times, sometimes driven by an upper class that wants to flaunt the fact that they can have long hair and choose not to braid it, as a subtle symbol of the fact that they don't need to work.

Grow your hair out and go for a run, get into a fist fight, or just try to do practically anything "in the rough" and you'll quickly realize why that is.

These are the things you learn when you have a girlfriend with hip-length hair and more than a passing interest in historical fashions.

Are you sure you read my comment correctly? Because the literal opposite of what I said would be that society in which men shouldn't wear long hair would accept it if it was braided. While your argument would seem to be "societies that allow men to have long hair also allow men to braid their hair" which has nothing to do with what I said.

[orinEsque]

Oh thank you redditor, looks like I missed one, if any of you saw the relevant dialogue for the NPCs in the spoiler below, please send me screenshot in the support forum.

► Show Spoiler

Orpheus and Voss (if you make Orpheus illithid he declares his love for him in gith)

[SoLong]

Oh thank you redditor, looks like I missed one, if any of you saw the relevant dialogue for the NPCs in the spoiler below, please send me screenshot in the support forum.

► Show Spoiler

Orpheus and Voss (if you make Orpheus illithid he declares his love for him in gith)

Really? Even there?

Holy hell, with how many gay and lesbian couples there are the few remaining straight families must have dozens of children each just so the population remains stable.

Seriously, has anyone made a head count of how many hetero/homo couples there are in this game? The split has to be at least 50/50 at this stage.

Edit: Sidenote, whichever screeching LGBTWTFBBQ originally started the outrage on reddit seems to have deleted his account. That or the powertripping jannies on reddit are trying to limit the mod's exposure by removing any mention of it.

[The_Mask]

I appreciate all the scrubbing taking place, regardless of the %.

[rusty_shackleford]

And I think this is the best way of portraying it without having to shove it into their faces.

[Oyster Sauce]

Oh thank you redditor, looks like I missed one, if any of you saw the relevant dialogue for the NPCs in the spoiler below, please send me screenshot in the support forum.

► Show Spoiler

Orpheus and Voss (if you make Orpheus illithid he declares his love for him in gith)

Orpheus: "Your friendship, your constancy - when I fell to despair, they elated me. Thank you, my friend. Sha va Zai."
Voss: "Sha va zai."

Can't find anywhere on the internet that says this means "I love you" except for shipping headcanon faggotry on Reddit. You won't find the term anywhere else either.

From the few translated bit of Gith we have, we can safely assume "zai" means "for" or possibly "honor".


Lae'zel never says it when she loves you, and the concept of love is completely foreign to her until you teach her. Also, several other examples of faggotry that post gives are simply wrong.

tldr redditors made it up because they're obsessed with making everything gay

[orinEsque]

Oh thank you redditor, looks like I missed one, if any of you saw the relevant dialogue for the NPCs in the spoiler below, please send me screenshot in the support forum.

► Show Spoiler

Orpheus and Voss (if you make Orpheus illithid he declares his love for him in gith)

Orpheus: "Your friendship, your constancy - when I fell to despair, they elated me. Thank you, my friend. Sha va Zai."
Voss: "Sha va zai."

Can't find anywhere on the internet that says this means "I love you" except for shipping headcanon faggotry on Reddit. You won't find the term anywhere else either.

From the few translated bit of Gith we have, we can safely assume "zai" means "for".


Lae'zel never says it when she loves you, and the concept of love is completely foreign to her until you teach her. Also, several other examples of faggotry that post gives are simply wrong.

tldr redditors made it up because they're obsessed with making everything gay

Phew! less work for me!

And I think this is the best way of portraying it without having to shove it into their faces.

What do else could you expect from people who lob off their genitals off at the first sign of adversity?

[WhiteShark]

What do else could you expect from people who lob off their genitals off at the first sign of adversity?

And their lives at the second!

[LemonDemonGirl]

And demand you call them by certain pronouns!

[olibeniron]

This thread is cathartic and is my life now. A blessing to know that I am not alone in my disgust towars that joke of a culture.

[Beagle Appreciator]

How do you get rid of the "polyamory", fagging and whoring? if you say you don't want to **** to shadowheart she says some kind of goodby and goodnight and finishes with "don't tire yourself" as if you are going to go animal on all the other whores and ******* there. Maybe in this magic world there is a cure for AIDS and Syphilis and not creating a world of bastards and single mothers but it still does not interest me (to be clear I am posing this to explain how they justify this gay **** not asking for a mod to add these spells or something). Is there such a mod (to remove the polywhorefaggery)? I don't have a problem with ******* (at least before seeing this ****) or better yet marriage in video games (though I think it is almost always done very poorly). I am very new to "banned" mods but I will simply return this game if I can't sort this cancer out.

[The_Mask]

How do you get rid of the "polyamory", fagging and whoring?

I think there is a mod in the works, where the "romances" are being fixed in the sense that it won't feel like everyone wants a piece of you as soon as you say hello, but it's tied to various other elements of the game, so it's a bit more difficult to figure out.

So... that part is W.I.P.

As far keeping the world lore accurate, I'm sure you can find that if you browse just a little bit.

[Gregz]

It's so refreshing to see everyone standing up to these mentally diseased creeps. They have done so much damage to this hobby.

[The_Mask]

Reddit: a gold mine of inclusivity and diversity, has figured out how to tell the difference between men and women. Check this out.

[Oyster Sauce]

Reddit: a gold mine of inclusivity and diversity, has figured out how to tell the difference between men and women. Check this out.

Crazy they can almost figure out if a wrist belongs to a man or a woman but not a penis

[orinEsque]

Reddit: a gold mine of inclusivity and diversity, has figured out how to tell the difference between men and women. Check this out.

Crazy they can almost figure out if a wrist belongs to a man or a woman but not a penis

AHAHAHAHA. I almost feel sorry for yedlike at this point. I wonder what ******** hate more: women because they can never be one, or themselves...

[Luckmann]

The more I read it, the worse it actually gets. It starts with "have been erased or heavily redacted". How? What is this actually meant to convey, meaningfully? This is presumably a journal made out of parchment, papyrus, or, less likely, coarse paper or even wood. Pages written upon with quills and ink, or mixes of binders and charcoal. There's no ******* erasers. How were these previous pages "erased"? And redacted? Are pages upon pages just blotted the **** out with new, black ink, for the overt purpose of self-censoring your own journal, but still leaving this page of unhinged dysphoria untouched?

The more I think about it, and the more I re-read this, the angrier I get. Writing shouldn't be allowed to be this bad. I can't help but to think that some loon ***** wrote this, and everyone around it are too oversocialized to dare tell it that it's ****, fearing social repercussions for calling the emperor naked. The only visual this leaves me with is actually that this is some incomprehensible schizoid journal full of ink-blots and half-torn pages, but if that was the intent, there would be so many better ways to describe it.

Goddamn it.

I concur with Luckmann. I was reading about and I do believe that Nocturne, unless completely rewritten, is one of those things that are best left deleted from the game. Even just saying he was feminine and braiding hair and all the rest, is still not enough of a scrub. When I skimmed through the game I ended up killing the whole of the enclave after getting in uninvited and snooping where I shouldn't have, so I missed him, glad I did seeing all the convoluted "lore" they did to try and just jam him somewhere. I remember Edwin becoming a chick because of some cursed belt or something, the weight they (developers/writers, whoever it was) want to place on this one character is grating to even read in passing.

I'd rather have access to all vendors in the game. If you want to disable him, Chris' original mod does it. I'm not in favour of removing NPCs.

I agree completely with this. As a part of development, I don't think the NPC should have made it, but the fact is that it's there, and while I think rewrites are entirely valid, deleting things and leaving 'gaps' - whether narrative or mechanical or itemizational or whatever - runs extremely counter to what I want out of mods I consider 'good'. I had no idea that SniperChris' original mod actually flat-out deleted something, or I wouldn't have run it. I assume this isn't in the 'Minimalist' one? Because if so, I'm going to have to chuck it out, but I also don't want to do that, for obvious reasons.

A good mod to me is one that is imperceptive. When a good mod is in effect, you should ideally never be reminded in any way that you're running a mod. It should "just work" and not stand out from the other content in the game or be 'jank'. It's one of the reasons I really like this mod, for example, because it actually takes me *less* out of the game and helps remove the things that stand out as jarring.

[orinEsque]

I concur with Luckmann. I was reading about and I do believe that Nocturne, unless completely rewritten, is one of those things that are best left deleted from the game. Even just saying he was feminine and braiding hair and all the rest, is still not enough of a scrub. When I skimmed through the game I ended up killing the whole of the enclave after getting in uninvited and snooping where I shouldn't have, so I missed him, glad I did seeing all the convoluted "lore" they did to try and just jam him somewhere. I remember Edwin becoming a chick because of some cursed belt or something, the weight they (developers/writers, whoever it was) want to place on this one character is grating to even read in passing.

I'd rather have access to all vendors in the game. If you want to disable him, Chris' original mod does it. I'm not in favour of removing NPCs.

I agree completely with this. As a part of development, I don't think the NPC should have made it, but the fact is that it's there, and while I think rewrites are entirely valid, deleting things and leaving 'gaps' - whether narrative or mechanical or itemizational or whatever - runs extremely counter to what I want out of mods I consider 'good'. I had no idea that SniperChris' original mod actually flat-out deleted something, or I wouldn't have run it. I assume this isn't in the 'Minimalist' one? Because if so, I'm going to have to chuck it out, but I also don't want to do that, for obvious reasons.

A good mod to me is one that is imperceptive. When a good mod is in effect, you should ideally never be reminded in any way that you're running a mod. It should "just work" and not stand out from the other content in the game or be 'jank'. It's one of the reasons I really like this mod, for example, because it actually takes me *less* out of the game and helps remove the things that stand out as jarring.

Original BBA is bloated with NPC visuals that Chris didn't change which causes missing heads and bugs. I came and basically did a spring clean of the the mod and made Minimalist version (this adds nothing, just cleans the problems with Chris' mod). Then Albert built his on my version. You can safely use mine or Alberts version. Nothing's been removed (and nocturne will still be there).

[BasedHans]

No german translation for this mod?

[Ty6]

Not at the moment.