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https://massivelyop.com/2023/11/24/ever ... e-exploit/
EverQuest players are raising the alarm over an economy-crushing dupe exploit
The EverQuest community is up in arms over what’s being perceived as a meager response to a major problem that has reportedly crashed much of the economies in the MMORPG’s progression servers.

An update released last week apparently also introduced an exploit that let players duplicate platinum through a tradeskill depot bug, and while Daybreak’s Darkpaw Games put out a hotfix to address the issue, many players are saying it’s not going far enough, as the duping effects have reportedly already ruined in-game economies, especially on TLP servers, where plat value has been completely evaporated and the cost for game time-granting krono consumables skyrocketed, effectively leaving those who tried to sell krono before the dupe twisting in the volatile econ winds. Our own tipster argued that many servers are now “flooded” with duped mats and plat.


Further exacerbating the matter is a lack of direct developer response on the MMORPG’s official channels, which is still the case at the time of this article’s writing (granted, it’s a holiday weekend right now). Meanwhile, players on the game’s TLP server forums are full of solution suggestions, calls to fix the matter more directly, and arguments about whether this dupe really matters.
SOURCE: OFFICIAL FORUMS (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8), REDDIT, CHEERS RUSTY!
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 03:38
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
After roughly 3 hours, it did indeed get approved if you want to leave an additional message or something.
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/ind ... st-4262815

The complete lack of response is stunning.
"25k unique visitors a week"

Holy ****.
Does this account for bot scrapes?

You should publish these metrics somewhere.
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Shillitron wrote: November 24th, 2023, 20:19
Does this account for bot scrapes?
Most bots & scrapers are blocked at this point.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
MMOcels BTFO.

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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 23rd, 2023, 02:55
I doubt this post will get approved so I'll just post the screencap here
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Sorry, @Kalarion.
A technically outdated, chronically underfunded MMO found lacking in quality and support? Color me surprised. One of the reasons I would never touch an MMO without solid funding and interest.
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I got a refund because I complained about Oakwynd
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Decline wrote: November 24th, 2023, 21:28
A technically outdated, chronically underfunded MMO found lacking in quality and support? Color me surprised. One of the reasons I would never touch an MMO without solid funding and interest.
Shroud of the Avatar has like 100 players max and like 2 devs and they did a month-long rollback over an exploit. There's no excuse.
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More outlets:
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/everquest-p ... 2000129581
Ta, Rusty.

I singlehandedly forced a response from the devs:
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/ind ... st-4263285

A non-response, but, whatever.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 24th, 2023, 23:04
I singlehandedly forced a response from the devs:
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I'd be amazed if they do something to deal with the busted economy, but while we're at it I'd love it if we could use this incident to segue into dealing with the bot farmer armies too since that's another massive economy problem that has gone unchecked all this time.
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Private servers are proof that bots in MMOs are something that's allowed & encouraged by MMO developers.
I've played on enough well-run private servers for various MMOs to know that bots can be stopped regardless of population size or staff size.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: November 24th, 2023, 23:16
Private servers are proof that bots in MMOs are something that's allowed & encouraged by MMO developers.
I've played on enough well-run private servers for various MMOs to know that bots can be stopped regardless of population size or staff size.
When I played WoW Classic you could /who any high level dungeon and see dozens of mages with names like Xjsghsk. If I had any sort of mod tools it would been trivial to hop between servers and ban hundreds of not accounts within a few minutes. They pay subs, so Blizzard didn't care.
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Additionally, we're in the era of machine learning. Valve uses ML AI to detect & automatically flag players for manual review simply by training a model on normal player replays and detecting behavior that is abnormal. The idea that a company like Blizzard couldn't afford to train a model to detect errant behavior and do the same is laughable.
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"Angeliana"... *sigh*... this whole thing makes a great argument for not letting women in any workspace.
Just like Yves, I chase tales
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The_Mask wrote: November 24th, 2023, 23:22
"Angeliana"... *sigh*... this whole thing makes a great argument for not letting women in any workspace.
She's just the community manager, no reason to get upset at her.
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If anyone's looking for another old school MMORPG, Acheron's Call has a working emulator and is free to play:

https://emulator.ac/how-to-play/
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That's what you get for trying to play MMOs dumb-dumbs. WHEN WILL YOU LEARN?!
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Oyster Sauce wrote: November 24th, 2023, 23:20
rusty_shackleford wrote: November 24th, 2023, 23:16
Private servers are proof that bots in MMOs are something that's allowed & encouraged by MMO developers.
I've played on enough well-run private servers for various MMOs to know that bots can be stopped regardless of population size or staff size.
When I played WoW Classic you could /who any high level dungeon and see dozens of mages with names like Xjsghsk. If I had any sort of mod tools it would been trivial to hop between servers and ban hundreds of not accounts within a few minutes. They pay subs, so Blizzard didn't care.
Back in the day when those bots had ****** scripting and were usually out in the world gathering ore/herbs it was fun to **** with them. On PVP servers it was enjoyable to Mind Control one bot, have it hit another bot, then watch them auto attack one another to death. You could also make them follow you all the way across the continent and then Alt F4. They'd either try to run back to where they're supposed to farm or totally breakdown and just stand there for hours.
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We should try this with DAoC.
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Dank Age of Clickalot still exists?
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Tweed wrote: November 26th, 2023, 01:51
Dank Age of Clickalot still exists?
Not officially.
I hear they got some hacked server software now or something.
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Rand wrote: November 26th, 2023, 02:16
Tweed wrote: November 26th, 2023, 01:51
Dank Age of Clickalot still exists?
Not officially.
I hear they got some hacked server software now or something.
wat.

it is still sold by EA on their website.

https://trial.darkageofcamelot.com/
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Decline wrote: November 26th, 2023, 02:18
Rand wrote: November 26th, 2023, 02:16
Tweed wrote: November 26th, 2023, 01:51
Dank Age of Clickalot still exists?
Not officially.
I hear they got some hacked server software now or something.
wat.

it is still sold by EA on their website.

https://trial.darkageofcamelot.com/
Is it? I thought they shut that thing down years ago. I was misinformed.
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Who tf are Broadsword?

The website is zero help

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Rand wrote: November 26th, 2023, 02:23
Who tf are Broadsword?

The website is zero help

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EA's version of Daybreak. Jannies for old MMOs.
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Now that I got multiple gaming outlets to cover it I sent a formal email to the CEO of EG7. :popcorn:
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Rusty gonna be running Daybreak before the year is out.
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Also, you're gonna trademark "broadsword", EA?

Last I checked, that word is:
a) a compound word of two common words
b) a widely used term of said compound word since the late middle ages

Seriously, **** off and die EA. You make the world worse at every opportunity.
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@Kalarion @Tweed I'm going to try starting over on the Mischief server if you want to give it a try. It's a TLP server a bit further along. Meh, I'll see how it goes.

I made a beastlord btw.
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