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wndrbr wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:32
"Stop noticing!"

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He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:16
bunch of libtards that want to go back to 1990s libtardism
Don't talk about President Trump that way.
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:27
[Gay k]ids making out is pushing (or completely breaking) the boundaries even today, and has also been soundly rejected by the majority of people.
Jarvis, what's the #3 most popular TV show online today?
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:33
wndrbr wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:32
"Stop noticing!"

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He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
what does larry fink have to do with the communist party of china?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:38
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:33
wndrbr wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:32
"Stop noticing!"

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He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
what does larry fink have to do with the communist party of china?
"STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT BLACKROCK. ESG NEVER HAPPENED, OKAY? GAMES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WOKE, CHUD"
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:39
GAMES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WOKE
sadly, yes
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Horseshoe theory vindicated.
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Why has rusty always loved video games if video games have always been woke? Curious.

Rusty loves video games + Video games always woke = Rusty loves woke!
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:43
Video games always woke
I'm glad you agree
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It certainly explains why you love Outer Worlds 2 so much.
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Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
games are as libtarded as they are because the people making them are former tumblr users
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adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:56
adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
games are as libtarded as they are because the people making them are former tumblr users
Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.
No, that's definitely still part of it. Zoomers have never had any good entertainment (or pretty much anything else) in their entire life. They want to act like it was always this way as a coping mechanism.
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adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
It diverged because rusty literally will not admit that Blackrock or ESG (and other corporate incentives) had any impact on any of this. He still wont.

And StackofTurtles keeps trying to re-package what rusty is saying in a less ******** way, but it's an impossible task, so I feel a bit bad for him.
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Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.
I genuinely do not remember all the details of the debate, it has been going way longer than I expected it to. However, I was under the impression that everything started from Bertram arguing that games are more woke than they used to be, and that this has happened in large part due to Blackrock money. I believe you and rusty were initially in disagreement with the latter part, but eventually everything from everyone started devolving into haste and logical fallacies, and I was unable to keep track of all of it.
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
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adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:06
Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:53
Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.
I genuinely do not remember all the details of the debate, it has been going way longer than I expected it to. However, I was under the impression that everything started from Bertram arguing that games are more woke than they used to be, and that this has happened in large part due to Blackrock money. I believe you and rusty were initially in disagreement with the latter part, but eventually everything from everyone started devolving into haste and logical fallacies, and I was unable to keep track of all of it.
This is basically accurate.

Stack is just trying to confuse the discussion with other interjections because he knows how ******** his position sounds when you put it that simply.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:31
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:30
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
you mean the game with the ****** god?
You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.

That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.

I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:07
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.
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Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.

The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:07
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 01:57
Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.
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Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.

The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:15
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:07

pictured: DEI mandates in question
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Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.

The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"
It's times like this that I miss the ::********:: tag from the codex. I suspect rusty didn't port it over because he probably received it more than anyone. :lol:
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ThulsaDoomer wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:12
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:31
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:30
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
you mean the game with the ****** god?
You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.

That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.

I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he (rusty) is full of ****
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:16
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:15
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:13


Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.

The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"
It's times like this that I miss the ::********:: tag from the codex. I suspect rusty didn't port it over because he probably received it more than anyone. :lol:
Are you going to deny that most issues in entertainment right now are due to gen X white men specifically choosing to never hire younger white men so they can appear virtuous?
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Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:18
rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****
It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogames
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:15
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:13
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:07

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Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.

The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"
Let's just try not to derail the discussion again. Both of these can be true at once. The wokeness we see today may have been formed both by Blackrock funding with the intention of pushing an agenda, AND by gen X men sitting by and not doing enough to stop it. One does not disprove the other.
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adad wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:21
AND by gen X men sitting by and not doing enough to stop it. One does not disprove the other.
"stop it"? They're responsible for it, he was posting that because he thought it was the best way to ensure he gets to keep his job by showing what a great ally he is
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:18
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:18
rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****
It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogames
Terrible opinion, but you are entitled to it.
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ThulsaDoomer wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 02:12
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:31
Bertram_Tung wrote: ↑ January 28th, 2026, 00:30
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
you mean the game with the ****** god?
You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.

That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.

I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
You know the writer explicitly said Vivec was born a herm, right?
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