Are video game devs inherently dirty commies, or did blackrock make them that way?

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Just this time*

[Magick]

He's literally talking about conditions for funding, and gender / race and hiring, though lol.
Also if leftists are so ideological (they are), then why do you need to "force" anything to make money from them?

Regardless, I've literally seen my own company gleefully proclaiming how they're also forcing change towards ESG compliance, by NOT investing in those that aren't rated high enough.
Money talks.

Also rather than purely "leftists earn more", it's likely also that women are generally the spenders, they're also more open to leftist ideals.

[Stack of Turtles]

Regardless, I've literally seen my own company gleefully proclaiming how they're also forcing change towards ESG compliance, but NOT investing in those that aren't rated high enough.
Money talks.

I honestly think this is all back-patting, probably intended to gull libtard investors who have vague feelings about capitalism bad. Remember, ESG still only makes up a minority of investment money overall!

[Magick]

Regardless, I've literally seen my own company gleefully proclaiming how they're also forcing change towards ESG compliance, but NOT investing in those that aren't rated high enough.
Money talks.

I honestly think this is all back-patting, probably intended to gull libtard investors who have vague feelings about capitalism bad. Remember, ESG still only makes up a minority of investment money overall!

Nah this was an internal briefing on how the money is spent / invested and the clients downstream.

Funding flagged specifically as for an ESG initiative might be a minority, but funding to say "a game studio" probably isn't categorised as that, despite having the ESG conditions (scoring for the company such as diversity in hiring) tagged on.

[ThulsaDoomer]

It's remarkable we even have to debate the probable existence of bankers and financiers using funded initiatives to change societal culture, or in this case, business culture, to suit their ideological desires. Blackrock was notable in that it was willing to sacrifice a lot of capital to push their ideology, this has become the backbone of liberal media, in that they are abandoning potential profits for the chance of successful subversion. Now, the developers are not that intelligent or calculated, they take the meagre sum of money and the clauses attached, and believe they now have the green light from their corporate overlords to enact their desires rather than fulfilling the desires of the customers. A lot of liberalism exists on the idea of "presumed success", that they have to be winning, as the very idea of liberalism not succeeding is simply not in the cards. That would be admitting the right-wingers, or nazis, had legitimate truths and criticisms.

Look no further than that of Francis Fukuyama and you'll see the utter hubris that liberal globalists possessed and still possess. This guy was praised for his world projections, not that unique among the utterly insane minds of famous economists.

Francis Fukuyama argued that with the collapse of communism, liberal democracy had “won” as the final form of human government—not that events would stop, but that no rival ideology could legitimately challenge it. History, in the sense of big ideological evolution, had reached its endpoint.

Obviously, we know this isn't reality, liberal democracy is collapsing, it has become parasitically attached to communism, neither can exist without the other. But these elites believed in the dream, and losing a few billion to promote that dream is nothing to them. That is the mentality we are facing, and people need to start waking up to it. Just as much as we have paid rioters (who are not getting paid much, but consider that your own people are willing to kneel to an evil ideology purely because it promises financial gain and good vibes), the business world is poisoned by the belief that it is their mandate to mold the world to their perceived utopia, no matter the cost.

[Stack of Turtles]

It's remarkable we even have to debate the probable existence of bankers and financiers using funded initiatives to change societal culture, or in this case, business culture, to suit their ideological desires.

We're not debating their existence, we're debating their success; that is, whether they actually changed any minds, or only appeared successful insofar as they preached to the choir.

[ThulsaDoomer]

It's remarkable we even have to debate the probable existence of bankers and financiers using funded initiatives to change societal culture, or in this case, business culture, to suit their ideological desires.

We're not debating their existence, we're debating their success; that is, whether they actually changed any minds, or only appeared successful insofar as they preached to the choir.

Obviously it worked given the utter destruction of game developers. Much like the drug and homeless problems, all developers needed was a push, and they certainly got that push.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Historically, bookkeeping numbers meant "how much you know your customers". If you go back to the age of TV, there was an immediate feedback loop for the quality of shows. Low quality shows got low Nielsen ratings, which means that the TV broadcasting company couldn't charge as much for their advertising slots for that show, which means that bad shows get axed almost immediately (often when the suits had just seen the pilot, before the rest of the season is commissioned) while good shows live on and get multiple seasons. In other words, to be successful, you have to give the people what they want. Shows that did not have great special effects really had to be carried by their writing. The strength of the original Star Trek series was in its writing. It had great writers like Harland Elson working on it, which is why it has stood the test of time.

The advent of bundles subscription services (ie Netflix, Game Pass, etc) and Blackrock disrupted this feedback loop, because they are subsidies. The company is getting paid not for how well the product resonates with customers. Crap like Rings of Power gets greenlit for sequels because they do not live or die based off its own merits, but live because of the total added value to the subscription service ("this service has all of these shows I am somewhat interested in and might get around to one day, so I'll subscribe"). If Rings of Power had been made back in the day, it would have been cancelled immediately. So subsidies have harmed the entertainment industry, and has obscured the feedback mechanism that used to determine quality.

[rusty_shackleford]

game developers would be doing it either way, even if they had conservative publishers demanding they remove libtardisms games would still be full of it

source: I've played games where publishers demanded this, you should check out Fallout 2

[rusty_shackleford]

"noooo they'd be based and fund based developers!!!"
no they wouldn't, no conservative has ever patronized a right-winger, they're allergic to the concept
they fund libtards that purposely subvert them until they get removed and replaced with a libtard

[Bertram_Tung]

"noooo they'd be based and fund based developers!!!"
no they wouldn't, no conservative has ever patronized a right-winger, they're allergic to the concept
they fund libtards that purposely subvert them until they get removed and replaced with a libtard

Another strawman in which rusty feigns ignorance of observable reality, as though we couldn’t see the effects unfolding in real time over the last 20 years when the video game industry shifted from being mostly apolitical (albeit left-leaning) to relentlessly pushing 24/7 far left extremism on steroids.

[Bertram_Tung]

We're not debating their existence, we're debating their success

Rusty was quite clearly debating their existence. He seems to at least admit there was some kind of funding now, which is progress. Yesterday he was pretending ESG never existed.

(He'll go back to pretending it never happened the next time this topic comes up in another thread)

[Bertram_Tung]

What real world politics was Half-Life 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Halo 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Gears of War 1 pushing?
What real world politics was God of War 1 pushing? (Oh no, there's female nudity, the devs must have been trying to turn lil' rusty into a ******!)
What real world politics was World of Warcraft pushing when it first came out?
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
What real world politics was System Shock 1 or 2 pushing?
What real world politics was Diablo II pushing?

If you can identify any politics in those games, at worst it amounts to the most milquetoast nitpicking imaginable. “Oh, you can play as a female character in Diablo II? That is totally equivalent to mandatory gay romance and ****** worship in every modern game.”

How can anyone look at Spider-Man: Web of Shadows from 2008 and compare it to Spider-Man 2 in 2025, complete with unskippable missions centered on helping gay ****** students make out at prom and pride flags placed everywhere, and seriously argue that nothing has changed?

[rusty_shackleford]

What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?

you mean the game with the ****** god?

[Bertram_Tung]

What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?

you mean the game with the ****** god?

“Erm, I found some obscure, missable dialogue about a pagan deity being androgynous, and that is exactly the same as forcing the player to watch gay high schoolers make out"

As if pagan gods being androgynous is some new idea and not thousands of years old. The game uses no real-world messaging at all, it's not trying to make a point, it's not trying to push any ideology.

If that’s the best you could come up with, you’ve just proved my point for me. Thank you!

[Stack of Turtles]

What real world politics was Half-Life 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Halo 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Gears of War 1 pushing?
What real world politics was God of War 1 pushing? (Oh no, there's female nudity, the devs must have been trying to turn lil' rusty into a ******!)
What real world politics was World of Warcraft pushing when it first came out?
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
What real world politics was System Shock 1 or 2 pushing?
What real world politics was Diablo II pushing?

If you can identify any politics in those games, at worst it amounts to the most milquetoast nitpicking imaginable. “Oh, you can play as a female character in Diablo II? That is totally equivalent to mandatory gay romance and ****** worship in every modern game.”

How can anyone look at Spider-Man: Web of Shadows from 2008 and compare it to Spider-Man 2 in 2025, complete with unskippable missions centered on helping gay ****** students make out at prom and pride flags placed everywhere, and seriously argue that nothing has changed?

All of the games on that list I know anything about contain woke politics. Black scientists, mortals chimping out and killing gods, transgender/crossdressing themes, Diablo 2 is a dualistic/Manichaean universe where evil always wins to set up the next game so everything you do is pointless...

[Decline]

Gamedevs are inherently commies.

- They work in the entertainment industry.
- They are mostly university educated.
- They can't get a proper job.

[Bertram_Tung]

What real world politics was Half-Life 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Halo 1 Pushing?
What real world politics was Gears of War 1 pushing?
What real world politics was God of War 1 pushing? (Oh no, there's female nudity, the devs must have been trying to turn lil' rusty into a ******!)
What real world politics was World of Warcraft pushing when it first came out?
What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?
What real world politics was System Shock 1 or 2 pushing?
What real world politics was Diablo II pushing?

If you can identify any politics in those games, at worst it amounts to the most milquetoast nitpicking imaginable. “Oh, you can play as a female character in Diablo II? That is totally equivalent to mandatory gay romance and ****** worship in every modern game.”

How can anyone look at Spider-Man: Web of Shadows from 2008 and compare it to Spider-Man 2 in 2025, complete with unskippable missions centered on helping gay ****** students make out at prom and pride flags placed everywhere, and seriously argue that nothing has changed?

All of the games on that list I know anything about contain woke politics. Black scientists, mortals chimping out and killing gods, transgender/crossdressing themes, Diablo 2 is a dualistic/Manichaean universe where evil always wins to set up the next game so everything you do is pointless...

Oh wow! A background character in black mesa is black! WHOA! Huge reach. Thanks for proving my point.

[rusty_shackleford]

obscure

obscure as in "reading the books that are available in the game and contain the lore"?

Vivec (Master of Morrowind): Warrior-poet god of the Dunmer. Vivec is the invisible keeper of the holy land, ever vigilant against the dark gods of the Volcano. He/she has saved the Dunmeri people from certain death on numerous occasions, most notably when he/she taught them how to breathe water for a day so that he/she could flood Morrowind and kill the Akaviri invaders, ca. 2E 572.

would you prefer if I quoted the book about molag bal cutting off vivec's head to facefuck it?

[rusty_shackleford]

Vivec looked on the King of Rape and said:

'How very beautiful you are, that you do not join us. '

And Molag Bal crushed the warrior-poet's feet, which were not invulnerable, and had legions cleave them off. Mighty fires from the Beginning Place were brought like nets to hold Vivec and he let them.

'I would prefer,' he said, 'some kind of ceremony if we are to be married.'

And the legions that took the feet were summoned again and ordered to begin a banquet. Pomegranates sprang from the badlands and tents were raised. A throng of Velothi mystics came, reading the passages of the severed feet on the ground and weeping until the scriptures were wet.

'We must love each other briefly,' Vivec said, 'if at all. I am needed to counsel the Hortator in more important matters because the Dwemeri high priests stir up trouble. You may have my head for an hour.'

Molag Bal rose up and extended six arms to show his worth. They were decorated in runes of seduction and its reverse. They were decorated in the annotated calendars of longer worlds. When he spoke, mating monsters fell out. 'Where must it go?' he said.

'I told you,' Vivec said, 'I am meant to be the teacher of the king of the earth. AE ALTADOON GHARTOK PADHOME.'

With these magic words, the King of Rape added another: 'CHIM,' which is the secret syllable of royalty.

Vivec had what he needed from the Daedroth and so married him that day. In the hour that Bal had his head, the King of Rape asked for proof of love.

"waow… this is so based and redpilled…" and it's just some tumblr rape fanfiction

[Bertram_Tung]

obscure

obscure as in "reading the books that are available in the game and contain the lore"?

Yes. You could play the game for hundreds of hours and not come across that.
And again, a pagan god with pagan features in a fantasy game has zero to do with pushing real world left wing politics.
You've got nothing.

[Bertram_Tung]

Again, Rusty is making the exact same argument that hard-left activists make in these discussions: “Your hobby was ALWAYS woke, chud!”

"See this tiny missable book that mentions rape? HA! That completely justifies blue haired women ruining every video game for the next 20 years!"

I don’t care how you try to dress it up, if you are pushing this message, you are effectively acting as a useful idiot for cultural Marxists.

[rusty_shackleford]

Again, Rusty is making the exact same argument that hard-left activists make in these discussions: “Your hobby was ALWAYS woke, chud!”

"See this tiny missable book that mentions rape? HA! That completely justifies blue haired women ruining every video game for the next 20 years!"

I don’t care how you try to dress it up, if you are pushing this message, you are effectively acting as a useful idiot for cultural Marxists.

Crassius Curio demands a kiss and for you to undress, this is part of a main quest

[rusty_shackleford]

Also just further proving my point that libtards shoved all this **** into games even when publishers were trying to keep it out, all that happened is publishers stopped censoring the developers so you get to see what they really think

[Bertram_Tung]

Again, Rusty is making the exact same argument that hard-left activists make in these discussions: “Your hobby was ALWAYS woke, chud!”

"See this tiny missable book that mentions rape? HA! That completely justifies blue haired women ruining every video game for the next 20 years!"

I don’t care how you try to dress it up, if you are pushing this message, you are effectively acting as a useful idiot for cultural Marxists.

Crassius Curio demands a kiss and for you to undress, this is part of a main quest

That's pretty based of the devs to let you kill and loot a ****** and move on with the main quest since he is not an essential character.

Sounds like those devs must have been extremely right wing, according to your logic.

[Bertram_Tung]

Also just further proving my point that libtards shoved all this **** into games even when publishers were trying to keep it out, all that happened is publishers stopped censoring the developers so you get to see what they really think

You've failed to make any coherent point at all, actually.

[Bertram_Tung]

**** I may have to revisit Morrowind.

According to rusty the entire point of the game is to kill a ****** god and it also rewards you with loot for killing other gay characters.

Way more right wing than I remembered.

[rusty_shackleford]

Again, Rusty is making the exact same argument that hard-left activists make in these discussions: “Your hobby was ALWAYS woke, chud!”

"See this tiny missable book that mentions rape? HA! That completely justifies blue haired women ruining every video game for the next 20 years!"

I don’t care how you try to dress it up, if you are pushing this message, you are effectively acting as a useful idiot for cultural Marxists.

Crassius Curio demands a kiss and for you to undress, this is part of a main quest

That's pretty based of the devs to let you kill and loot a ****** and move on with the main quest since he is not an essential character.

Sounds like those devs must have been extremely right wing, according to your logic.

Crassius is tagged essential, you haven't even played the game

[Tweed]

What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?

you mean the game with the ****** god?

Kirkbride was doing shrooms and drinking whiskey out of a thermos.

[rusty_shackleford]

What real world politics was Morrowind pushing?

you mean the game with the ****** god?

Kirkbride was doing shrooms and drinking whiskey out of a thermos.

Yes, he was always a libtard degenerate