He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
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Don't talk about President Trump that way.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:16bunch of libtards that want to go back to 1990s libtardism
Jarvis, what's the #3 most popular TV show online today?Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:27[Gay k]ids making out is pushing (or completely breaking) the boundaries even today, and has also been soundly rejected by the majority of people.
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what does larry fink have to do with the communist party of china?Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:33He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
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"STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT BLACKROCK. ESG NEVER HAPPENED, OKAY? GAMES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WOKE, CHUD"rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:38what does larry fink have to do with the communist party of china?Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:33He really will go to any lengths to defend Larry Fink, won't he?
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sadly, yes
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Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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games are as libtarded as they are because the people making them are former tumblr usersadad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:56games are as libtarded as they are because the people making them are former tumblr usersadad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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No, that's definitely still part of it. Zoomers have never had any good entertainment (or pretty much anything else) in their entire life. They want to act like it was always this way as a coping mechanism.Stack of Turtles wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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It diverged because rusty literally will not admit that Blackrock or ESG (and other corporate incentives) had any impact on any of this. He still wont.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
And StackofTurtles keeps trying to re-package what rusty is saying in a less ******** way, but it's an impossible task, so I feel a bit bad for him.
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I genuinely do not remember all the details of the debate, it has been going way longer than I expected it to. However, I was under the impression that everything started from Bertram arguing that games are more woke than they used to be, and that this has happened in large part due to Blackrock money. I believe you and rusty were initially in disagreement with the latter part, but eventually everything from everyone started devolving into haste and logical fallacies, and I was unable to keep track of all of it.Stack of Turtles wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
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pictured: DEI mandates in questionBertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.

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This is basically accurate.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:06I genuinely do not remember all the details of the debate, it has been going way longer than I expected it to. However, I was under the impression that everything started from Bertram arguing that games are more woke than they used to be, and that this has happened in large part due to Blackrock money. I believe you and rusty were initially in disagreement with the latter part, but eventually everything from everyone started devolving into haste and logical fallacies, and I was unable to keep track of all of it.Stack of Turtles wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57You'd think so, but he started this whole thing by screaming that only zoomers think old games can be considered woke because they're just jealous they never got to live in the glorious pre-woke world. He's just walking it back to that now.adad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:53Bertram is arguing that games are even more woke than they used to be, not that they weren't woke at all before. Furthermore, the validity of the latter changes nothing about the possibility of the former. It can be true both that games were already woke before, and that they have become even more woke than they used to be. I do not understand why the discussion diverged so tremendously.
Stack is just trying to confuse the discussion with other interjections because he knows how ******** his position sounds when you put it that simply.
You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.
That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.
I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
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Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:07pictured: DEI mandates in questionBertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.
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The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
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"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:13Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:07pictured: DEI mandates in questionBertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 01:57Former tumblr users who were hired due to DEI mandates incentivized by Blackrock.
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The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
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It's times like this that I miss the ::********:: tag from the codex. I suspect rusty didn't port it over because he probably received it more than anyone.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:15"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:13Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.
The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
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rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he (rusty) is full of ****ThulsaDoomer wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:12You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.
That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.
I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
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Are you going to deny that most issues in entertainment right now are due to gen X white men specifically choosing to never hire younger white men so they can appear virtuous?Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:16It's times like this that I miss the ::********:: tag from the codex. I suspect rusty didn't port it over because he probably received it more than anyone.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:15"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:13
Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.
The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.![]()
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It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogamesBertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:18rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****
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Let's just try not to derail the discussion again. Both of these can be true at once. The wokeness we see today may have been formed both by Blackrock funding with the intention of pushing an agenda, AND by gen X men sitting by and not doing enough to stop it. One does not disprove the other.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:15"nooo it wasn't gen X white men specifically ******* over younger white men it was {nebulous evil big corporation}!!! don't blame me!!!"Bertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:13Yes - People like him were promoted and retained, while ordinary employees gradually left as company culture shifted due to ESG, DEI, Blackrock, China, etc and other corporate influences. Anyone who has worked in office environments over the past decade or two has seen this happen firsthand.
The dev in your picture has always been a ******, I agree. But the larger point is that employees like him were rewarded for their behavior, while competent, normal people were pushed out. That is exactly the systemic process I have been describing. What you are sharing does not counter what I have been saying at all, it aligns perfectly.
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"stop it"? They're responsible for it, he was posting that because he thought it was the best way to ensure he gets to keep his job by showing what a great ally he isadad wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:21AND by gen X men sitting by and not doing enough to stop it. One does not disprove the other.
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Terrible opinion, but you are entitled to it.rusty_shackleford wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:18It's because I think morrowind is an awful game liked exclusively by people who don't actually like videogamesBertram_Tung wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:18rusty wont respond to any of this btw because he knows he is full of ****
You know the writer explicitly said Vivec was born a herm, right?ThulsaDoomer wrote: β January 28th, 2026, 02:12You should take up issues with the Far East's beliefs and deities if you dislike Vivec's existence. Morrowind's message, if anything, is a running commentary on the reality of historical imperialism, and the interference of foreign powers on native regions. Also some loose commentary on the importance of faith and troubles within its established church. In Morrowind's case, the Temple. It's a bit ironic that you would parrot a known liberal view of Vivec. Anyone whose played the game and read the sermons knows he is not a ****** god, he was a man driven by lust to encompass all he could see, to experience everything. There is only a single instance of him transforming into a woman, and that's not even considered canon given the sermons are half lies and half truth. Once more, nobody who says this **** actually engages with the material.
That's why Dagoth Ur is a good contrast, as he does not desire to experience all there is, rather he wishes to impose a heavily restricted experience based on his view of reality. Vivec is the unchained limits of individualism, while Dagoth Ur is the iron fist of collectivism. Does this sound woke to you? It could be, if the game preached any of it, yet it does not, and we must take that into account with other such games as Bertram noted.
I fell for the Morrowind ragebait, I know, but I like setting the record straight.
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