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Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:06
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 16:53
maidenhaver wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 13:15

Imagine having money and you still put colored people in your fake **** game. It isn't indie, and its also ugly. The only people who defend this are HQsaars.

I think its good that rich Whites make their own games, and I thought the lead dev was cool for not thanking any hasbeen devs or boss women for his success.
Getting the ****** quota out of the way in the first 20 minutes to get the heat off of their White studio and White game was a ******* genius move that paid off with making them the most awarded game ever. They killed the one named one on-screen brutally in the first half hour of the game and every single other one dies. You can never convince me to be mad at them for that. It literally feels as if he said "okay guys they're going to smear us if our game doesn't have any "diversity", I know just the trick.."

They could've put faggotry in the game, a ****** in the main party, and all manners of other garbage. They could've charged $70 and it would've still been worth it, but they didn't. Sandfall and Broche are ******* based. The guy runs a studio of all White French, not a single person there has even so much as dyed hair, let alone some fat ******* freak. Hating on these guys is honestly ******* stupid
Gustave having an emotional breakdown right after the beach head encounter and the Japanese woman being the actual stoic soldier and taking charge of the situation by reminding Gustave of his, and everyone else's, duty and orders surely counts as faggotry. It should have been the other way around but of course, the man has to be ******* while the woman is stoic and takes charge when presented with an extremely stressful situation.

So, no. Sandfall is not "******* based".
Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
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Valter wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:01
Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:06
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 16:53


Getting the ****** quota out of the way in the first 20 minutes to get the heat off of their White studio and White game was a ******* genius move that paid off with making them the most awarded game ever. They killed the one named one on-screen brutally in the first half hour of the game and every single other one dies. You can never convince me to be mad at them for that. It literally feels as if he said "okay guys they're going to smear us if our game doesn't have any "diversity", I know just the trick.."

They could've put faggotry in the game, a ****** in the main party, and all manners of other garbage. They could've charged $70 and it would've still been worth it, but they didn't. Sandfall and Broche are ******* based. The guy runs a studio of all White French, not a single person there has even so much as dyed hair, let alone some fat ******* freak. Hating on these guys is honestly ******* stupid
Gustave having an emotional breakdown right after the beach head encounter and the Japanese woman being the actual stoic soldier and taking charge of the situation by reminding Gustave of his, and everyone else's, duty and orders surely counts as faggotry. It should have been the other way around but of course, the man has to be ******* while the woman is stoic and takes charge when presented with an extremely stressful situation.

So, no. Sandfall is not "******* based".
Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
It's not just gay, it's super gay.
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:11
and no I don't watch **** fuentes, don't insult me like that.
Ah, there's hope for you yet. Glad to hear it.

methoxetamine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:11
Now I'm curious, name some good and unpozzed western games from this decade. Who exactly is based if Sandfall isn't?
That's a faulty premise. Why must an unpozzed western game exist in this decade? If it doesn't exist, then it doesn't. That doesn't make Sandfall "based" by comparison, nor it makes the game less pozzed by comparison. In order for this line of argument to hold any water, you would have to reply to me claiming a game is not pozzed and the devs are "******* based". But, it is you who made that claim and, as such, it is you who would have to substantiate the claim, if you will.

But, as a token of good faith, I will try to oblige with your request but first, I would need you to define what you consider a "western" game. Is a game from Russian devs "western"? I know you don't mean American, because E33 is French. I will assume that you mean "non-Asian" so not Japanese, Korean or Chinese.

For one, Dominion 6 (2024) is not pozzed as far as I recall but its from Swedes. Is that "western" enough for you?

Intravenous I and II (2024) where developed by a single dev from Lithuania, if I recall correctly and doesn't have any pozz ****.

Project Wingman (2020) doesn't have ******* by virtue of never showing the face of any character. But none speak like ******* and there is no girlboss in sight. Most characters with names and lines are men. Your WSO if you fly a 2 seater plane is a woman, Prez and one of your wingmen is a woman, while the other is a man. But, female fighter pilots exist and are properly rare. If I recall correctly, I don't remember any other female pilot in the game and even those aforementioned two never belittle Monarch (the Player character) or go against him and Monarch is the leader of Sicario (the mercenary fighter group). It was made by Aussies.

I am sure there are more. And I grant you that is not as easy to encounter them and I am not claiming the devs are "based", only that those games where released within the last decade and do not have woke **** in them and that I like them well enough to recommend them and I picked three that were from very different genres and gameplay styles.

You can express the opinion that the amount of faggotry and pozz in E33 is not enough for you turn your nose and, as you have already expressed, that the woman garbage writing was to your liking but that doesn't mean that because of it, the story is well written or the game is not pozzed or the devs are "based". That exact line of thinking is what gave Bavra the chance to do the bait and switch with Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Developers should be judged according to the last game they published because they are not a single entity. Specially not Sandfall who clearly is not indie and even had a movie deal before the game release. Just you wait until the movie or whatever comes next turns out so woke it will make BG3 blush.
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Valter wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:01
Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:06
methoxetamine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 16:53


Getting the ****** quota out of the way in the first 20 minutes to get the heat off of their White studio and White game was a ******* genius move that paid off with making them the most awarded game ever. They killed the one named one on-screen brutally in the first half hour of the game and every single other one dies. You can never convince me to be mad at them for that. It literally feels as if he said "okay guys they're going to smear us if our game doesn't have any "diversity", I know just the trick.."

They could've put faggotry in the game, a ****** in the main party, and all manners of other garbage. They could've charged $70 and it would've still been worth it, but they didn't. Sandfall and Broche are ******* based. The guy runs a studio of all White French, not a single person there has even so much as dyed hair, let alone some fat ******* freak. Hating on these guys is honestly ******* stupid
Gustave having an emotional breakdown right after the beach head encounter and the Japanese woman being the actual stoic soldier and taking charge of the situation by reminding Gustave of his, and everyone else's, duty and orders surely counts as faggotry. It should have been the other way around but of course, the man has to be ******* while the woman is stoic and takes charge when presented with an extremely stressful situation.

So, no. Sandfall is not "******* based".
Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
It is. But, it doesn't matter. It wasn't so terrifying to scare the WOMAN. Only the male protagonist got rattled. That's what makes it pozzed. If both Gustave and the woman where rattled but he was the one that got over it first and then acted stoic, it would be fine. The problem is that, while he is an emotional wreak, the barefooted and petite Japanese woman somehow finds in herself to hold it together and act like a soldier.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:23
Cipher wrote: ↑ December 22nd, 2025, 19:05
geftsu wrote: ↑ December 22nd, 2025, 09:53

No, I really don't, I just got derailed. My point was more about that whether you agree or disagree with Renoir (I personally am kind of in the middle and I don't want to go into it any more) it doesn't make the game bad. The game isn't trying to point a finger at him and tell you "he is le bad, and you should feel like he is bad otherwise you are a chud and literally Hitler".
But it is.

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TL;DR: On balance I think it's a good if not great game. I consider it a major success as a debut title for the studio, though I'm a little concerned that they set their own bar quite high now.
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mediocre games with bad stories used to be IMPOSSIBLE
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The best part about this game is the premise that in order to escape the horrors of reality an all-white family creates a fantasy world packed full with *******. Exactly the opposite of what white people do in reality:
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Marcus wrote: ↑ December 30th, 2025, 13:37
The best part about this game is the premise that in order to escape the horrors of reality an all-white family creates a fantasy world packed full with *******. Exactly the opposite of what white people do in reality:
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But... but... everyone in social media is praising this game as a masterpiece!

Even the chuds in RPGHQ are saying the game is not woke and the devs are "******* based"!
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The game looks like it was almost good. It feels like a vessel made to be bestowed upon with a soul, but the soul never came.

All the main characters are fugly. I know the French are deformed from the browning but god almighty...
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Cipher wrote: ↑ December 30th, 2025, 20:54
Marcus wrote: ↑ December 30th, 2025, 13:37
The best part about this game is the premise that in order to escape the horrors of reality an all-white family creates a fantasy world packed full with *******. Exactly the opposite of what white people do in reality:
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pff.jpg
But... but... everyone in social media is praising this game as a masterpiece!

Even the chuds in RPGHQ are saying the game is not woke and the devs are "******* based"!
We've reached a point where the same people who formerly advocated for noticing all the hidden messages and radical ideological insertions within media as a whole are now so fatigued by this tactic that they are glazing the new wave of ideological media, if only because it's not as offensive as Veilguard or Dustborn. This reached its zenith when all the alternate media guys started rambling about "balance" within politics and culture, which I always found beyond ********, since what ideology is responsible for creating this vaunted balance? There always will be one, and that is why our choice in choosing which ideology to follow matters as it will echo across all sectors of society.

I won't ever play this game, but I commend your plot explanations here and I agree with them. The angry ****** who claims "God does not own humanity" is certainly not someone I'd bother debating with.
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There's no balance and anyone saying "the pendulum has swung" is dumb.
People being tired of woke and lefty crap everywhere only hurt the bottom line for leftist companies, which continue to dominate the entire space on Nintendo, Epic games, Steam, Sony, Xbox. There is no right-wing or non-woke industry players. Maybe a couple AA studios get their stuff out in front like Lords of the Fallen, but we've seen how easily such studios get absorbed into the rest of the slop after a taste of success.
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Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:23
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 30th, 2025, 13:30
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****, it's BG3 all over again. Basic competence is treated like a holy grail because the bar is a tripping hazard in hell.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ December 31st, 2025, 16:00
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 30th, 2025, 13:30
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****, it's BG3 all over again. Basic competence is treated like a holy grail because the bar is a tripping hazard in hell.
bg3 actually had good elements you don't see in other games, this is just a bog standard jrpg without anime
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enjoyed yakuza like a dragon a good deal more than this, I'd say the one area it does better than JRPGs is it's sincere, something I haven't seen in a japanese game since the 20th century
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can you elaborate what you exactly mean with sincere?
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Mordred wrote: ↑ December 31st, 2025, 16:31
can you elaborate what you exactly mean with sincere?
not really
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ok, i am not exactly opposed to the game existing but i do not like that they made turnbased into dexterity checks. i kinda hate that. turn based was always the thinking and planing game for me that did not need any gamepad skills.

i fear it will ruin upcoming turn based games for quite a while
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Mordred wrote: ↑ December 31st, 2025, 16:36
ok, i am not exactly opposed to the game existing but i do not like that they made turnbased into dexterity checks. i kinda hate that. turn based was always the thinking and planing game for me that did not need any gamepad skills.

i fear it will ruin upcoming turn based games for quite a while
Isn't the Parry and Dodge mechanic in E33 exactly the same? Meaning, "putting dexterity checks into turnbased" games.
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i was talking about e33
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I'm old enough to remember when people would get ****** off when games used QTE as a major gameplay mechanism. Yet, here we are.
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tehdude27 wrote: ↑ January 1st, 2026, 00:16
I'm old enough to remember when people would get ****** off when games used QTE as a major gameplay mechanism. Yet, here we are.
It's different because it shows a flash instead of a button, so it's actually deep gameplay now.
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The development team behind Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 have been given the status of Knight under the French Order of Arts and Letters, in recognition of their significant contribution to the country's art and culture.
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Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.
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I didn't know the bar was so low.
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Tangerine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:03
Valter wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:01
Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 17:06


Gustave having an emotional breakdown right after the beach head encounter and the Japanese woman being the actual stoic soldier and taking charge of the situation by reminding Gustave of his, and everyone else's, duty and orders surely counts as faggotry. It should have been the other way around but of course, the man has to be ******* while the woman is stoic and takes charge when presented with an extremely stressful situation.

So, no. Sandfall is not "******* based".
Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
It's not just gay, it's super gay.
this game definitely turned me gay
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King Crispy wrote: ↑ February 7th, 2026, 05:09
Tangerine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:03
Valter wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:01


Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
It's not just gay, it's super gay.
this game definitely turned me gay
Which one of the 3 handsome men swayed you to that extent?
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methoxetamine wrote: ↑ February 7th, 2026, 05:14
King Crispy wrote: ↑ February 7th, 2026, 05:09
Tangerine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:03


It's not just gay, it's super gay.
this game definitely turned me gay
Which one of the 3 handsome men swayed you to that extent?
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Cipher wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:11
It is. But, it doesn't matter. It wasn't so terrifying to scare the WOMAN. Only the male protagonist got rattled. That's what makes it pozzed. If both Gustave and the woman where rattled but he was the one that got over it first and then acted stoic, it would be fine. The problem is that, while he is an emotional wreak, the barefooted and petite Japanese woman somehow finds in herself to hold it together and act like a soldier.
In isolation, I wouldn't necessarily consider the scenario unbelievable, but decisions like this have to be analyzed in the context in which they were made, and when you look at that, it doesn't really look good.

From a design standpoint, it's also a bad look to have in the protagonist. If these were random side characters, then yeah, whatever. But the protagonist shouldn't really behave this way at all, because ultimately, the protagonist will be inhabited by the player, and the player will never behave like this. creating a firm personality break. Thus you have a character that goes in a single moment from being panicky and easily rattled (which you could just have as part of his personality), to being unfazeable enough to impress a Russian, cuz you know the PLAYER is never gonna freak out.
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King Crispy wrote: ↑ February 7th, 2026, 05:09
Tangerine wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:03
Valter wrote: ↑ December 28th, 2025, 18:01


Fellas is it gay to panic over seeing your entire platoon being wiped out in a single minute by the first enemy you encounter? :oops:
It's not just gay, it's super gay.
this game definitely turned me gay
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