Nexusmods owner steps down

[Val the Moofia Boss]

If I were to suggest a tactic it would be copying Netflix(during their rapid expansion years) and applying a global bandwidth limitation across all users on a per game basis and allowing publishers to optionally pay to increase this. This would leverage their massive library of mods as a weapon, Bethesda and similar would be coerced into paying because it would be too difficult to switch to alternatives at this point.

If they did that they would demand that you pay to access the mods and they get their 80% cut. Or else they wont do **** and force people to use the steam thing for mods.

Publishers with big mod communities on nexus would be forced to relent due to fan backlash

It's how netflix forced all the major ISPs to completely rebuild the internet infrastructure in USA such that it went from being one of the worst to being one of the best in the world(despite the massive area of the country) — they just throttled bandwidth for customers using ISPs that refused to play ball. (Yes, one of the largest proponents of net neutrality was itself abusing the very thing net neutrality would stop ISPs from doing. Surprise!)

Apples to oranges comparison. Netflix DvD and then streaming was becoming the main distributor of how movies and shows were being watched as people were dropping cable (which was initially pitched as an improvement from satellite as you would be paying to not see ads, only for ads to worm their way into cable, and then paying for cable didn't even get you all of the channels anymore. Now we are in the same situation where just having a Netflix sub doesn't get you all of the content because it was pulled off and split amongst numerous copycat streaming subscriptions). The videogame analog to Netflix is Steam, the main distributor of games. Nexus mods is not the main distributor of games. It is a distributor of aftermarket parts. Once the company has made their money off of their main product, the car or the movie/game, they are diminishing returns for them to throw time, manpower, and therefore money at these accessory ecosystems. Money that from the suits' perspective could have been better utilized either making a new main product, or corpo suit's old favorite tactic of not spending that money to try to make the profit margins on the quarterly reports look better by reducing costs when revenue is not increasing. And Western AAA companies are angry that they have achieved market saturation in the West, and that China's videogame market has matured and the Chinese would rather play their own domestic products than buy a lot of foreign product, so the Western games industry has reached market saturation where lines does not go up anymore.

"But a lot of mods being available for a game makes people more inclined to buy that game!". Correct. But this is about a long term investment in building up a company's reputation, when the past two and a half decades of gaming has demonstrated that the revolving door of suits do not stick around to see the fruits of those long term investments. They have, they are, and they will continue to sacrifice customer goodwill to boost the next quarterly report. The next few months or year are all that matters. Nintendo is exceptional in having a long term plan and sticking with it (never putting their games on sale for an entire console generation to convince people come the next console generation to buy $80 games at full price knowing that they will never be discounted). Most companies are not Nintendo.

[rusty_shackleford]

If they did that they would demand that you pay to access the mods and they get their 80% cut. Or else they wont do **** and force people to use the steam thing for mods.

Publishers with big mod communities on nexus would be forced to relent due to fan backlash

It's how netflix forced all the major ISPs to completely rebuild the internet infrastructure in USA such that it went from being one of the worst to being one of the best in the world(despite the massive area of the country) — they just throttled bandwidth for customers using ISPs that refused to play ball. (Yes, one of the largest proponents of net neutrality was itself abusing the very thing net neutrality would stop ISPs from doing. Surprise!)

Apples to oranges comparison. Netflix DvD and then streaming was becoming the main distributor of how movies and shows were being watched as people were dropping cable (which was initially pitched as an improvement from satellite as you would be paying to not see ads, only for ads to worm their way into cable, and then paying for cable didn't even get you all of the channels anymore. Now we are in the same situation where just having a Netflix sub doesn't get you all of the content because it was pulled off and split amongst numerous copycat streaming subscriptions). The videogame analog to Netflix is Steam, the main distributor of games. Nexus mods is not the main distributor of games. It is a distributor of aftermarket parts. Once the company has made their money off of their main product, the car or the movie/game, they are diminishing returns for them to throw time, manpower, and therefore money at these accessory ecosystems. Money that from the suits' perspective could have been better utilized either making a new main product, or corpo suit's old favorite tactic of not spending that money to try to make the profit margins on the quarterly reports look better by reducing costs when revenue is not increasing. And Western AAA companies are angry that they have achieved market saturation in the West, and that China's videogame market has matured and the Chinese would rather play their own domestic products than buy a lot of foreign product, so the Western games industry has reached market saturation where lines does not go up anymore.

"But a lot of mods being available for a game makes people more inclined to buy that game!". Correct. But this is about a long term investment in building up a company's reputation, when the past two and a half decades of gaming has demonstrated that the revolving door of suits do not stick around to see the fruits of those long term investments. They have, they are, and they will continue to sacrifice customer goodwill to boost the next quarterly report. The next few months or year are all that matters. Nintendo is exceptional in having a long term plan and sticking with it (never putting their games on sale for an entire console generation to convince people come the next console generation to buy $80 games at full price knowing that they will never be discounted). Most companies are not Nintendo.

counterpoint:
If nexusmods limited skyrim mod download bandwidth to 5kbps and told people to go complain to bethesda to give them money, they'd reach a deal in days.

I think you guys are really underestimating how many users nexusmods has.

[OnTilt]

"profits are Jewish"

Give me all the extra money you make or you are the biggest hasidic ****-blood sucker in the world

I didn't say that profits are Jewish. I just take issue with the notion that being profitable is on its own insufficient -- rather you must twist and squeeze those around you for all the profit. It is avarice.

OK, so what's the line? How much profit are they allowed to make?

Again, it isn't really about the profit itself, it's about the lack of love and charity to your neighbor for the sake of even more, especially when that profit isn't even to accomplish your mission.

In the case of a modding site, the mission is to provide the service while being able to provide a living for yourself and your staff. When you pay yourself, your staff, and you still have profit left over, but then you think -- Maybe I can strong arm people for even more money -- then you're definitely in the realm of avarice.

[rusty_shackleford]

I didn't say that profits are Jewish. I just take issue with the notion that being profitable is on its own insufficient -- rather you must twist and squeeze those around you for all the profit. It is avarice.

OK, so what's the line? How much profit are they allowed to make?

Again, it isn't really about the profit itself, it's about the lack of love and charity to your neighbor for the sake of even more, especially when that profit isn't even to accomplish your mission.

In the case of a modding site, the mission is to provide the service while being able to provide a living for yourself and your staff. When you pay yourself, your staff, and you still have profit left over, but then you think -- Maybe I can strong arm people for even more money -- then you're definitely in the realm of avarice.

Why is it better to demand money from the user of your product rather than the big corporation that is already engaging in what you're accusing people of?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Publishers with big mod communities on nexus would be forced to relent due to fan backlash

It's how netflix forced all the major ISPs to completely rebuild the internet infrastructure in USA such that it went from being one of the worst to being one of the best in the world(despite the massive area of the country) — they just throttled bandwidth for customers using ISPs that refused to play ball. (Yes, one of the largest proponents of net neutrality was itself abusing the very thing net neutrality would stop ISPs from doing. Surprise!)

Apples to oranges comparison. Netflix DvD and then streaming was becoming the main distributor of how movies and shows were being watched as people were dropping cable (which was initially pitched as an improvement from satellite as you would be paying to not see ads, only for ads to worm their way into cable, and then paying for cable didn't even get you all of the channels anymore. Now we are in the same situation where just having a Netflix sub doesn't get you all of the content because it was pulled off and split amongst numerous copycat streaming subscriptions). The videogame analog to Netflix is Steam, the main distributor of games. Nexus mods is not the main distributor of games. It is a distributor of aftermarket parts. Once the company has made their money off of their main product, the car or the movie/game, they are diminishing returns for them to throw time, manpower, and therefore money at these accessory ecosystems. Money that from the suits' perspective could have been better utilized either making a new main product, or corpo suit's old favorite tactic of not spending that money to try to make the profit margins on the quarterly reports look better by reducing costs when revenue is not increasing. And Western AAA companies are angry that they have achieved market saturation in the West, and that China's videogame market has matured and the Chinese would rather play their own domestic products than buy a lot of foreign product, so the Western games industry has reached market saturation where lines does not go up anymore.

"But a lot of mods being available for a game makes people more inclined to buy that game!". Correct. But this is about a long term investment in building up a company's reputation, when the past two and a half decades of gaming has demonstrated that the revolving door of suits do not stick around to see the fruits of those long term investments. They have, they are, and they will continue to sacrifice customer goodwill to boost the next quarterly report. The next few months or year are all that matters. Nintendo is exceptional in having a long term plan and sticking with it (never putting their games on sale for an entire console generation to convince people come the next console generation to buy $80 games at full price knowing that they will never be discounted). Most companies are not Nintendo.

counterpoint:
If nexusmods limited skyrim mod download bandwidth to 5kbps and told people to go complain to bethesda to give them money, they'd reach a deal in days.

I think you guys are really underestimating how many users nexusmods has.

Bethseda is owned by Microsoft. Microsoft wouldn't want to have a precedent be set or open themselves up to a lawsuit by having a subsidiary get blackmailed into paying for something and then they can't renege without backlash. Better to never sign in the first place. Epic Games tried framing the Apple Store as villains a few years ago. Microsoft could try the same thing, and Nexus doesn't have anywhere near the leverage that Epic Games did.

[rusty_shackleford]

I think you guys are really underestimating how many users nexusmods has.

As of February 2024, NexusMods had 10 million mod downloads daily.
https://www.nexusmods.com/news/14936

[rusty_shackleford]

Epic Games tried framing the Apple Store as villains a few years ago

You know they won, right?

[MrTwinkls]

The only way for mod sites to move forward if they want to make big moneys is to partner with Valve and integrate itself with steam in someway to gain access to steam workshop mod installation tools and steam wallet payment method. This will also urge developers to add workshop tools support for their games.
User wants BigBooba mod but too stupid or lazy to install it? Here, just login to Steam and press this button to get it and maybe press this button to easily thank moddev for his work with a small donation or if you want BiggerBooba mod you can buy it by pressing the button here.
The whole consoles market exist because of such stupidity and laziness.

[TKVNC]

The only way for mod sites to move forward if they want to make big moneys is to partner with Valve and integrate itself with steam in someway to gain access to steam workshop mod installation tools and steam wallet payment method. This will also urge developers to add workshop tools support for their games.
User wants BigBooba mod but too stupid or lazy to install it? Here, just login to Steam and press this button to get it and maybe press this button to easily thank moddev for his work with a small donation or if you want BiggerBooba mod you can buy it by pressing the button here.
The whole consoles market exist because of such stupidity and laziness.

The only way for mod sites to move forward is to focus on the Cathedral view, and stop blowing smoke up the asses of degenerate ***** jannies and modders.

Nexus has become goofy.

[MrTwinkls]

The only way for mod sites to move forward if they want to make big moneys is to partner with Valve and integrate itself with steam in someway to gain access to steam workshop mod installation tools and steam wallet payment method. This will also urge developers to add workshop tools support for their games.
User wants BigBooba mod but too stupid or lazy to install it? Here, just login to Steam and press this button to get it and maybe press this button to easily thank moddev for his work with a small donation or if you want BiggerBooba mod you can buy it by pressing the button here.
The whole consoles market exist because of such stupidity and laziness.

The only way for mod sites to move forward is to focus on the Cathedral view, and stop blowing smoke up the asses of degenerate ***** jannies and modders.

Nexus has become goofy.

I was talking about a way for mod hosting sites to make big money. To add to my previous dystopian future you can add patreon authorization integration to get paid mods from there for maximum profit and degeneracy.

[Segata]

[UltraFan123]

Mmm, I feel like downloading all the mods I can for the games I plan to obtain in the future and store them in some drive while I still can.

I agree that we shouldn't trust these ***** who used to own Nexus.

[Oyster Sauce]

Mmm, I feel like downloading all the mods I can for the games I plan to obtain in the future and store them in some drive while I still can.

I agree that we shouldn't trust these ***** who used to own Nexus.

I know somewhere you can store them

[Bertram_Tung]

All of this sounds pretty reasonable and professional. Not seeing any virtue signalling (although it's early). And the claim that they want to reduce ads is good. Also noticed he said they want to support the players as well as the mods. Maybe that means less censorship. One can hope.

[Oyster Sauce]

All of this sounds pretty reasonable and professional. Not seeing any virtue signalling (although it's early). And the claim that they want to reduce ads is good. Also noticed he said they want to support the players as well as the mods. Maybe that means less censorship. One can hope.

[Statesman]

Time for me to cash in points out of the Nexus Store...

[Norfleet]

Epic Games tried framing the Apple Store as villains a few years ago.

What do you mean, TRIED? They SUCCEEDED. The Apple Store *IS* officially and legally the villain now.

[KOS-MOS]

- Not a single word about banned mods. Interesting.

- Acknowledging that hosting billions of mods incurs costs, while at the same time promising to reduce the number of ads without charging users anything. Sus.

[Vaako]

Shouldnt be so hard for nexus to just limit the bandwith for a day, like some filehosters have it. Then you can only download like 1gb in 24hours with your ip. Should greatly reduce the costs. Wouldnt be surprised if there are many people downloading the same mod over and over again just because its free and they already deleted it before for some reason.

[Maximus]

I got a bit confused about this part:

Will you claim ownership of mods uploaded to Nexus Mods?

Absolutely not. Mods belong to the creators who create them. No changes will be made.

They will not take ownership of the mods uploaded (but they do it today, by refusing to remove mods from the site either by the author or by request if author is banned), and let creators own their mods. But will not change anything.
What's it gonna be? Status Quo, or give the mod-authors back the control of their creations??

And a site of Nexus magnitude has a market value in the hundreds of millions USD. A small startup of 4 kids don't have the capital for that.

[Tweed]

Translation: There will be more monetization and attempts at getting you to part with your money. It won't involve changing the basic system or charging for mods. At least no at first. But there will be definitely be more "services", nagging, and bilking.

[Norfleet]

Will you claim ownership of mods uploaded to Nexus Mods?

Absolutely not. Mods belong to the creators who create them. No changes will be made.

They will not take ownership of the mods uploaded (but they do it today, by refusing to remove mods from the site either by the author or by request if author is banned), and let creators own their mods. But will not change anything.

Claiming formal ownership of user content is a BAD idea, because, aside from mods being effectively in a legal limbo, if you claim ownership of user-uploaded content, you are now legally liable for that ****, losing your legal protections as a platform. That's why they duck any legal ownership of things even as they stop people from controlling their content.

[Maximus]

Absolutely not. Mods belong to the creators who create them. No changes will be made.

They will not take ownership of the mods uploaded (but they do it today, by refusing to remove mods from the site either by the author or by request if author is banned), and let creators own their mods. But will not change anything.

Claiming formal ownership of user content is a BAD idea, because, aside from mods being effectively in a legal limbo, if you claim ownership of user-uploaded content, you are now legally liable for that ****, losing your legal protections as a platform. That's why they duck any legal ownership of things even as they stop people from controlling their content.

True. And refusing authors to rage-quit the site and deleting their creations, when the site-admins do stupid stuff, are not cool.

Btw: Did some digging on danish public records
Chosen ApS was created last September. Of 2024. And have 2 employees. With a whopping 93.000 DKK in capital.
https://www.proff.dk/firma/chosen-aps/k ... QU9AHI009O

[gerey]

True. And refusing authors to rage-quit the site and deleting their creations, when the site-admins do stupid stuff, are not cool.

I support Nexus on this. Nothing worse than a ****** modder having a meltdown over something completely unrelated and taking down all his mods, leaving users high and dry.

I have no wish to suffer through modder drama and be inconvenienced by their childish tantrums.

[Stack of Turtles]

M*dders thinking they get to "own" their "content" is a plague.

All m*dders should be slaves.

[LemonDemonGirl]

M*dders thinking they get to "own" their "content" is a plague.

All m*dders should be slaves.

That would include this website dumbass

[Stack of Turtles]

M*dders thinking they get to "own" their "content" is a plague.

All m*dders should be slaves.

That would include this website dumbass

yes

[KOS-MOS]

Modders don’t own the IP they’re working with. Even if they add original content, their mods are built on someone else’s property, so legally, it’s not truly 'their work'.

[Acrux]

M*dders thinking they get to "own" their "content" is a plague.

All m*dders should be slaves.

That would include this website dumbass

Have you read the terms of this site?

[Trickster]

>"Open the gate" for circle-Jerking in woke echo chamber.
>"When sane people show up and call us mentally ill stupid morons who think they have the right to dictate what others should do and how to think, we close the gate to prove them wrong."
>Boo hoo, i close the comment again because you're not healthy enough and call us a morons for participating in harassment of a girl who change Aylin's gender in BG3.

Pathetic (x2)