Gothic

[OGchan]

Always wanted to experience this game. I have the GOG version and also a disc iso I downloaded from somewhere, maybe it's time to try it.
I read that the way to go is:
- install the base game
- if required install the latest official patch
- install the Union primary patch
- install Union
- install Ninja
- install the community patch
Am I missing some required steps here?

[Vergil]

That sounds like a lot of work to do instead of pressing play game

[Howard Crane]

What is ninja? what is union?

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Gothic

Don't overcomplicate things on your first run. Have it be as vanilla as possible with the quirks is my suggestion. Some basic bug fixes, alright. You can do all the other **** on subsequent runs.

I am saying this as somebody who fiddles around with his Fallout 3 run for three years now... Don't be me.

[Vergil]

What is ninja? what is union?

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Gothic

Don't overcomplicate things on your first run. Have it be as vanilla as possible with the quirks is my suggestion. Some basic bug fixes, alright. You can do all the other **** on subsequent runs.

Okay you're based for this one unrapes you

[Howard Crane]

What is ninja? what is union?

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Gothic

Don't overcomplicate things on your first run. Have it be as vanilla as possible with the quirks is my suggestion. Some basic bug fixes, alright. You can do all the other **** on subsequent runs.

Okay you're based for this one unrapes you

Thank you kindly, brother.

[OGchan]

What is ninja? what is union?

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Gothic

Don't overcomplicate things on your first run. Have it be as vanilla as possible with the quirks is my suggestion. Some basic bug fixes, alright. You can do all the other **** on subsequent runs.

I am saying this as somebody who fiddles around with his Fallout 3 run for three years now... Don't be me.

All of those are for a vanilla experience as far as I can tell, it's mostly bug and script fixes, compatibility and such.
Union is the name of the new iteration of the old SystemPack, the link you provided also calls it the SystemPack 2.0, the Union primary patch is necessary and must be installed first because if not the Union installer will ***** about the executable not being supported or something like that. You find them here: https://worldofplayers.ru/threads/40376/
They recommend to run also the Community Patch with it, but first you have to install Ninja. The GH page calls it an extension framework to allow true modular modifications, you find it here: https://github.com/szapp/Ninja
And finally the Community Patch, another effort to fix bugs, found here: https://github.com/AmProsius/gothic-1-community-patch
This is from what I can tell the way to play vanilla+ Gothic 1 in 2025 but I could be wrong.

By the way, I used the GOG version as base for this, I have no idea if Steam requires some other stuff, probably does.

[rusty_shackleford]

@Howard Crane I think you accidentally reported instead of replied. Lay off the booze

[Howard Crane]

@Howard Crane I think you accidentally reported instead of replied. Lay off the booze

****, I am sorry. Can we relay what I said into the discouse? These buttons are not great man.

[rusty_shackleford]

@OGchan

Oh, man that's a lot.

So where are you stuck then? I haven't played One in a long time, so changes are to be expected. You know what. I'm just gonna install it alongside you.

I wanted another run anyway.

[Howard Crane]

@OGchan

Oh, man that's a lot.

So where are you stuck then? I haven't played One in a long time, so changes are to be expected. You know what. I'm just gonna install it alongside you.

I wanted another run anyway.

Thanks, brother.

[Howard Crane]

Anyway, I'll install all of that stuff alongside if you want.

[Howard Crane]

And we can check each other as we go, right? Installing Gothic as we speak.

[OGchan]

Oh thanks but I already installed all that and I can confirm it runs pretty good. I have black screen-sound only on videos though, that's annoying.

[Howard Crane]

Come on, you up?

Oh...

Okay.

I should do a vidye about how to install it anyway. I think.

[OGchan]

You're good people man.

[vurt]

Union is really great imo, fixes a lot of issues, many QoL improvements, animation improvements. The best thing that has happened to the game apart from the DX11 renderer.

To me it's worth messing with these old games to make them look a bit better and play a bit better than originally. But, i am person who really wants the first experience with a game to be as good as it can get, i am.. obsessed with it, if i'm not happy i make my own mods. I still haven't played CP2077, because i need to find time/patience to mod it heh

[1998]

I only installed the latest gog version and this one: https://github.com/dosinabox/g1_steam_f ... 1.2021.exe

It runs well. Am I still missing something essential?

[Rand]

I am person who really wants the first experience with a game to be as good as it can get, I am.. obsessed with it, if I'm not happy I make my own mods.
I still haven't played CP2077, because I need to find time/patience to mod it heh

I'm often the same way, but I played a lot of 2077 with just a few mods (and don't think it actually NEEDS any).

Here are the mods I actually used:


They required these function mods:


And I could have skipped a few of the ones I DID install and not lost much.
Don't obsess over this one. It's not worth it.

[rusty_shackleford]

d3d11 renderer makes it look worse

It's a complete aesthetic shift, changes water rendering, some textures are actually no longer rendered, flickering shadows, etc.,
If you just want to try to fix compatibility issues, try using something like wine's d3d implementation. Yes, it can be used on Windows: https://fdossena.com/?p=wined3d/index.frag
I would only recommend it for DX7 games & older, Gothic is DX7. Place the dlls from the zip in the Gothic/system directory next to the game's .exe

[vurt]

I think it improves the look a ton + the performance improvement is pretty insane. It makes the lighting way less flat + more realistic, especially sunny weather looks great. But rainy weather is cool too, water will actually form on the ground and people will look wet + water will even run down tree trunks and walls. Really cool and unique, haven't seen that effect in any modern game actually, at least not one i can remember. Not that the effect itself would win any awards perhaps, but cool enough, adds to the immersion.

You do have various presets in the renderer to chose from too, some looks better than others + you can tweak it a lot. The water looks better too than the fake 10 FPS original water which is just annoying, imo.

As for bugs, installing Union fixes a lot of bugs for me, like textures not rendering correctly (this is especially true for people using my texture overhaul).

I have noticed flickering shadows once, but not with G2, this was with Chronicles of Myrtana, in the first town you get to. Really annoying. Haven't seen it in any other places.

I have not tried the renderer at all with Gothic 1, so i have no idea about that game, maybe its more buggy or something, no idea.

[Rand]

I have noticed flickering shadows once, but not with G2, this was with Chronicles of Myrtana, in the first town you get to. Really annoying. Haven't seen it in any other places.

Not a surprise. They literally tell you not to use Gothic mods with COM:A for a reason. Also wait for v2.0 (coming.. soon?) to play it anyway. (More info on their Discord about these things.)

[vurt]

It's not so bad you can't play it with mods though. The flickering happens in one place only in the town, i had a ton of union mods installed too, runs great. Yeah my full playthrough will be with 2.0 + i will likely update my CoM overhaul for 2.0.

[vurt]

oh, cool. just noticed someone has made a Union plugin (Hedin_Union_ChangeSkyTexture) for my G2 sky texture mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/gothic2/mods/95)... it will switch th sky texture every night and day so it's not always the same. I made a bunch of skies to chose from, but you had to select one so i was hoping eventually maybe someone could do such a thing.

[Tweed]

Got no problems running the game with Union installed under the old render.

[OGchan]

I only installed the latest gog version and this one: https://github.com/dosinabox/g1_steam_f ... 1.2021.exe

It runs well. Am I still missing something essential?

What does that do? No description
Also, any way to improve the font rendering?

[1998]

I only installed the latest gog version and this one: https://github.com/dosinabox/g1_steam_f ... 1.2021.exe

It runs well. Am I still missing something essential?

What does that do? No description
Also, any way to improve the font rendering?

I think just a collection of several fixes/patches. There is a Union.patch file in there...

[rusty_shackleford]

Are we certain the remake is still using UE5? The Nyras demo feels like ELEX. I've timestamped a convo, something about it just gives me ELEX vibes

[1998]

Are we certain the remake is still using UE5? The Nyras demo feels like ELEX. I've timestamped a convo, something about it just gives me ELEX vibes

Still looking for Unreal people on their job pages, so yeah.

[Rand]

Looks like they customized the **** out of UE5.
Usually that means good things for a game.
We'll see.

[Roderick]

Are we certain the remake is still using UE5? The Nyras demo feels like ELEX. I've timestamped a convo, something about it just gives me ELEX vibes

Dialogue camera looks very bad.