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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
True, but sometimes they just have Bog surgery, such as in The Woker 4.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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I wonder if Game Studios will ever realize that stylization trumps realism any day of the week. Particularly if they care about owning a character's likeness forever.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Head isn't even the same aspect ratio. It's not a skill or technology issue. When people say they want a character to look like a "real woman" that translates into "make it less attractive than me".

(Nobody wants to play as an uggo of course, but when you work on a game for years as a woman you feel inadequate if the fictional character model is attractive. Many such documented cases. ***** individuals feel the exact same, see: Fable trailer.)

When the number of women + men who want sex from them working on a game hits a critical mass this coded feedback is forced into the product.
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J1M wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 22:56
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Head isn't even the same aspect ratio. It's not a skill or technology issue. When people say they want a character to look like a "real woman" that translates into "make it less attractive than me".

(Nobody wants to play as an uggo of course, but when you work on a game for years as a woman you feel inadequate if the fictional character model is attractive. Many such documented cases. ***** individuals feel the exact same, see: Fable trailer.)
Yeah, people who say it's a technical limitation are spouting **** that's not true.

Chuds can fix faces in games (and sometimes cinematics too) with limited tools, sometimes no tools.

It's a purposely done action. Specifically because they hate attractive people.
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RangerBoo wrote: December 14th, 2024, 21:44

Act Ma'am has been having a massive meltdown at people both hating the Witcher 4 and the Fallout show. He has been acting like a good corporate **** sucker and attacking anyone as porn addicts who hate both. A reminder that this ****** constantly photoshops himself as Gigachad in a bid to hide his Ashkenazi features for fear of people rightfully attacking him for being a typical, money hungry, spineless ****.

I would love to squish his eyes like Roy Batty.

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Valter wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 19:32
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Statesman wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:40
Makirige wrote: ↑ December 14th, 2024, 16:52

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The very first trailer for The Witcher 3 is just as different as the game itself, so take a look for yourself.

So MAYBE Ciri will look different in the game, maybe better.
Although I'd expect the final in-game model to be an improvement over this (at least likeness-wise), it is important to show fan discontent. Previous trailers did not share engines with their respective games (the Witcher 4 Cinematic Trailer was made in UE5) and Platige made their "realistic" Geralt using the in-game model as a base, thus if you take Ciri's new voice actress into account:

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It is very likely that CDPR originally planned to use that (probably less-detailed version of the) facescan as their in-game model...a common practice for major AAA studios these days due to mocap laziness. At least they have enough time between the fan reaction and the expected release date (2026) to modify Ciri's appearance.
Valter wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 19:32
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Reminder that you (yes, you, citizen!) should play Witcher 1... Or wait for the remake. :music:
Even coming from a villain, I wonder if those lines will actually end up (unedited) in the remake.
Ciri looks a bit more fuckable here, ngl. But I'm a hound doge.
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Statesman wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:40
Even coming from a villain, I wonder if those lines will actually end up (unedited) in the remake.
"villain" :notsureif:

pretty sure you could side with this gigachad and lynch the witch
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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I thought the ***** on the left was a ****** insert from one of the Spoderman dev team? Could have sworn so.
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Zothique wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 01:18
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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I thought the ***** on the left was a ****** insert from one of the Spoderman dev team? Could have sworn so.
They look very similar but no
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Yeah I too have likewise seen some members who frequent this site sometimes pop up on YouTube as of late.
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As I said, these next couple of years are going to be rough on the Western games industry. I expect that 2025-2026 will be the year that we will start to see companies like Tencent or other Chinese subsidiaries begin to buy off all these game studios that have failed due to DEI.
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 04:23
Yeah I too have likewise seen some members who frequent this site sometimes pop up on YouTube as of late.
That's a Discord post, not YouTube.
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I don't think Ciri looks that ******* bad like a lot of people are complaining about (Fronthole Olympics: Men's Division) but she's obviously not as lithe/gorgeous as Witcher III Ciri is.

I get that "she's older" and etc, all the regular excuses but "if" she's a witcher now, wouldn't she age slower like 'ol heartthrob Geralt? (who it's ok to overly sexualize because he's a mobile masturbation unit aka male).

I don't remember Geralt getting coke-bloat in between games like Ciri here. Those long nights of playing Gwent like her gambling-addict "dad" perhaps was more stressful on her than previously thought.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Yeah, but MJ didn't have a two ton manjaw in the first Spider-Man game, so it's clearly a decision on the devs' part to uglify her.
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logincrash wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 06:12
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Yeah, but MJ didn't have a two ton manjaw in the first Spider-Man game
She did.

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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 08:05
logincrash wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 06:12
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58


This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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Yeah, but MJ didn't have a two ton manjaw in the first Spider-Man game
She did.

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Is it bad that I still want to **** this version of MJ, tho? ****** self-insert or not

I think chicks like this irl are obesely hot. Like in that whole "we'll breed and create a race of jotuns together" ride or die type unga-bunga ancestral deep-dicken feeling.

Surely someone here will agree with me.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 19:12
Witcher without Geralt as the main character would be like if they made another deus ex prequel without Adam Jensen.
Terrible idea.

I'd love to see the people in the room that made this decision.
Stop giving them ideas.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 08:44
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 10th, 2024, 19:12
Witcher without Geralt as the main character would be like if they made another deus ex prequel without Adam Jensen.
Terrible idea.

I'd love to see the people in the room that made this decision.
Stop giving them ideas.
Don’t worry.Embracer Group made sure there won’t ever be a sequel to ever answer that question.
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 04:23
Yeah I too have likewise seen some members who frequent this site sometimes pop up on YouTube as of late.
Only people I see get brought up is RangerBoo. There’s only person I ever seen mentions this website existence on YouTuber in positive light.
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Manny V wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 01:17
Statesman wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:40
Even coming from a villain, I wonder if those lines will actually end up (unedited) in the remake.
"villain" :notsureif:

pretty sure you could side with this gigachad and lynch the witch
True enough :mrgreen:
But I meant that as in how the game tries to portray him.
Zothique wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 05:41
I get that "she's older" and etc, all the regular excuses but "if" she's a witcher now, wouldn't she age slower like 'ol heartthrob Geralt? (who it's ok to overly sexualize because he's a mobile masturbation unit aka male).

I don't remember Geralt getting coke-bloat in between games like Ciri here. Those long nights of playing Gwent like her gambling-addict "dad" perhaps was more stressful on her than previously thought.
W3 Geralt is supposed to be around 100. Ciri is 19-23, so W4 Ciri is ~30 at most. CDPR could argue that she aged normally (despite her Elder blood) until she went through Witcher mutations and thus that is how a post-wall medieval woman should look in [current year]!
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It's not even the looks that are the worst part. It's that with how OP her powers are in the lore, she might just be the first character ever that actually has powers to "back up" all the annoying girlbossing and "sass" that's inevitably going to come . And there's going to be a lot of it.
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Zothique wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 01:18
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:58
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ December 15th, 2024, 21:43
somewhat convinced part of the reason women look so ugly in games now is because they facescan women and that's what women look like without 5lbs of makeup
This is what it is a lot of the time. People will post professional head shots of a 35 year old woman in professionally done makeup with professional lighting set up to take hundreds of pictures at a specific angle by a professional photographer and complain that the character doesn't look that good standing in some hut

It's just what the ***** really looks like

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I thought the ***** on the left was a ****** insert from one of the Spoderman dev team? Could have sworn so.
No, they scanned biological female members of the dev team for MJ and Black Cat.
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Rand wrote: ↑ December 14th, 2024, 15:04
logincrash wrote: ↑ December 13th, 2024, 20:45
I think it needs to be said that judging pre-rendered cutscenes isn't reasonable, at least when it comes to quality of faces. Pre-rendered Geralt from the Witcher 3 trailers didn't look like his in-game model.
An even better example than Geralt would be Morrigan in Dragon Age Inquisition. In the pre-rendered trailers she looked fugly as all hell. Meanwhile her in-game model is arguably the best she's ever looked, even a decade older than in Origins and with the weird oily Inquisition skin texture.
β–Ί comparison
These ******* ALWAYS **** up the women in their games.
Take Morrigan from the one and only Dragon Age game.
The character they put in the game is the wrong age and wrong look. She doesn't fit. She's supposed to be a teenager, ffs.

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At least back then the "technical limitation" excuse was believable.
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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 04:34
As I said, these next couple of years are going to be rough on the Western games industry. I expect that 2025-2026 will be the year that we will start to see companies like Tencent or other Chinese subsidiaries begin to buy off all these game studios that have failed due to DEI.
I'm no fan of the China aggressive behavior, they probably helped to engineer that social disease that is the woke virus. Still, I wouldn't mind this so long as we get ******* good games or just good entertainment. I'm so done this ****.
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7Trickster wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 19:35
RangerBoo wrote: ↑ December 16th, 2024, 04:34
As I said, these next couple of years are going to be rough on the Western games industry. I expect that 2025-2026 will be the year that we will start to see companies like Tencent or other Chinese subsidiaries begin to buy off all these game studios that have failed due to DEI.
I'm no fan of the China aggressive behavior, they probably helped to engineer that social disease that is the woke virus. Still, I wouldn't mind this so long as we get ******* good games or just good entertainment. I'm so done this ****.
Yep. That's the plague that is DEI hiring. Most companies now have a literal competency problem. They simply can't make quality if they tried.