Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

[gerey]

Even pcgaymer ranked it 19 out of 50 on the best wh40k games list.

Repeat after me: Journalists are not human. Journalists are not people.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Even if you are wh40k fanatic, there are better wh40k games to play. Wh40k Inquisitor, Wh40k Darktide, Wh40k Mechanicus, etc etc.

Avoid this pile of crap.

Even pcgaymer ranked it 19 out of 50 on the best wh40k games list.
https://www.pcgamer.com/best-warhammer-40k-games/

Imagine sourcing PC gamer as the authority for good Warhammer 40k games.

What next should we also look at kotaku for the top RPG’s of all time.

[Luckmann]

Piratechads stay winning

Yeah, but in some cases it's a massive ******* hassle to unlock content in games unless you access it legitimately, and in some case straight-up impossible as you don't have access to necessary files.

And even when that's not the case, all these things do is to ensure that I pirate the game, because even if I buy the game legitimately, I'll have to depend on piracy to get all the content, if even possible, so why the **** would I buy the game to begin with? And if they make it literally impossible for me to access all content, I'm just not going to get the game at all.

The entire thing is just inherently off-putting, and I cannot possibly be the only one that thinks so.

Even if you are wh40k fanatic, there are better wh40k games to play. Wh40k Inquisitor, Wh40k Darktide, Wh40k Mechanicus, etc etc.

None of which are roleplaying games in any meaningful sense, and/or are solidly set in nu41k, like Mechanicus.

[Yankee Zulu]

Am I the only one on this **** forum who dislikes this **** game? Like wtf? Yall owldawg shills or something? Actually no wonder Baldarse Gay 3 is the most discussed game here.

[Envergence]

Yall

[rusty_shackleford]

Am I the only one on this **** forum who dislikes this **** game? Like wtf? Yall owldawg shills or something? Actually no wonder Baldarse Gay 3 is the most discussed game here.

I gave it a 3.25/5, depends where you put that on 'likes'

[Yankee Zulu]

Rusty you played through the whole game and thats like more than 100 hrs and you didnt like it? Why would you do that to yourself? Are you or journo? A ******? A masochist?

[rusty_shackleford]

Rusty you played through the whole game and thats like more than 100 hrs and you didnt like it? Why would you do that to yourself? Are you or journo? A ******? A masochist?

Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.

[Luckmann]

Am I the only one on this **** forum who dislikes this **** game? Like wtf? Yall owldawg shills or something? Actually no wonder Baldarse Gay 3 is the most discussed game here.

You seem... perturbed. Nothing I said was an endorsement of the game.
And all everyone else was pointing out was that journalists are scum and their opinions meaningless.

Rusty you played through the whole game and thats like more than 100 hrs and you didnt like it? Why would you do that to yourself? Are you or journo? A ******? A masochist?

If you don't play bad games, you don't know what good games are, and there are many bad games that still have aspects to them which are good, which are great to keep in mind when discussing other games in the future. I just spent well over a week playing a game I hated almost every minute of, but now I am actually qualified in having an opinion on it, and judge the various aspects of it.

I also intend to play Rogue Trader, based on the fact that I liked Kingmaker and parts of Wrath of the Righteous, but also because I'm a long-time Rogue Trader (the TTRPG) veteran and WH40k grog; despite finding the beginning of the game incredibly mid at best.

[Yankee Zulu]

Rusty you played through the whole game and thats like more than 100 hrs and you didnt like it? Why would you do that to yourself? Are you or journo? A ******? A masochist?

Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.

Thats a divorced hubby talking about his ex.

[WhiteShark]

Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.

Thats a divorced hubby talking about his ex.

Don't be so all-or-nothing. No game is perfect. Even the best games typically have parts or aspects people didn't enjoy. Rogue Trader may be a bad game overall―I haven't played it, though, so I don't really know―but that doesn't mean there aren't enjoyable aspects.

[Luckmann]

Rusty you played through the whole game and thats like more than 100 hrs and you didnt like it? Why would you do that to yourself? Are you or journo? A ******? A masochist?

Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.

Thats a divorced hubby talking about his ex.

Even if that's true, so what? I think it's a weird analogy, because it is entirely possible to like parts of someone without wanting to marry them, or, in this case, stay married to them.

[Yankee Zulu]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games. You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much. So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

[UltraFan123]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games. You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much. So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

I think the fact that there are people in this site willing to put the effort to mod the ***** **** out of games means that if we aren't truly accepting of ****** **** at all. Most issues with this game in particular is poor game design for the most part, and from what I have seen so far, there is no ***** degeneracy which honestly surprised me since Owlcat truly did commit to being faithful to the setting this time.

[Luckmann]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games.

No it's not.

You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much.

Who is this "we", here? You sound like a mongoloid coming in from RetardEra, projecting absolutes based in deranged preconceptions.

So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

No-one said "so what" anything, or even implied it. No-one even said "look at the bright side". Take your ******* meds.

[rusty_shackleford]

If WH40k was as pozzed as wrathfinder I'd say skip it for sure, I gave it the score I did because it scored fairly low on the wokedar.

Most of its issues stem from poor writers & bad gameplay design, along with some technical issues.

[Acrux]

You sound like a mongoloid

He is, only literally.

[W1llus]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games. You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much. So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

I think the fact that there are people in this site willing to put the effort to mod the ***** **** out of games means that if we aren't truly accepting of ****** **** at all. Most issues with this game in particular is poor game design for the most part, and from what I have seen so far, there is no ***** degeneracy which honestly surprised me since Owlcat truly did commit to being faithful to the setting this time.

I'm still unsure if all the gay **** is by virtue of having worked on pathfinder and having to adhere to Paizo or Owlcat themselves are woke but GW of all people were the ones that put a gun to their head when working on rogue trader. I know for a fact GW played a heavy role in monitoring this game's development as they are very anal about being compliant with their established lore. Even the Space Marine 2 devs spoke out about their involvement with that games development.

[Acrux]

I'm still unsure if all the gay **** is by virtue of having worked on pathfinder and having to adhere to Paizo or Owlcat themselves are woke but GW of all people were the ones that put a gun to their head when working on rogue trader. I know for a fact GW played a heavy role in monitoring this game's development as they are very anal about being compliant with their established lore. Even the Space Marine 2 devs spoke out about their involvement with that games development.

The Owlcat devs said that there's a ****** dwarf merchant in wotr who also appears in Kingmaker. They wanted him to be a ****** in that game, too, but "never got around to it".

[Yankee Zulu]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games.

No it's not.

You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much.

Who is this "we", here? You sound like a mongoloid coming in from RetardEra, projecting absolutes based in deranged preconceptions.

So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

No-one said "so what" anything, or even implied it. No-one even said "look at the bright side". Take your ******* meds.

Yes, it is. This whole website is a ******* absolutes projection. You kids are doing non stop here. How can I be a mongoloid from Resetera? Isnt that an absolute projection?

Grow the **** up.

There is not a single thing in thus game that is good. Not a single one. It is ****. Mediocre at best. So wat your shut slop *******.

[Vaako]

If WH40k was as pozzed as wrathfinder I'd say skip it for sure, I gave it the score I did because it scored fairly low on the wokedar.

Most of its issues stem from poor writers & bad gameplay design, along with some technical issues.

Yup the whole mechanics are kinda ******/complicated and badly explained. That I deinstalled my test version after a few hours. At least I managed to finish dawn of war when that came out 2 decades ago. And I usually play a lot of round based rpgs.

[Yankee Zulu]

You sound like a mongoloid

He is, only literally.

Your elitist snobism is leaking out of your arse. Do you need a tissue to plug it in?

[rusty_shackleford]

This is coming really close to accepting ******** and ******* in games.

No it's not.

You know the **** yall supposedly hate so much.

Who is this "we", here? You sound like a mongoloid coming in from RetardEra, projecting absolutes based in deranged preconceptions.

So what if a game has ******** in it, every game has bad parts. Look at the bright side.

No-one said "so what" anything, or even implied it. No-one even said "look at the bright side". Take your ******* meds.

Yes, it is. This whole website is a ******* absolutes projection. You kids are doing non stop here. How can I be a mongoloid from Resetera? Isnt that an absolute projection?

Grow the **** up.

There is not a single thing in thus game that is good. Not a single one. It is ****. Mediocre at best. So wat your shut slop *******.

You sound like a mongoloid

He is, only literally.

Your elitist snobism is leaking out of your arse. Do you need a tissue to plug it in?

No idea why you're so upset. I don't even see anyone saying it's a great game.
There are rabid WH40k fanboys who will devour anything WH40k flavored, and there are a lot worse WH40k branded games than rogue trader. If you're specifically looking for a party-based CRPG — especially one inspired by WH40k's own tabletop RPG line — you have exactly one choice.

It will also overlap with appeal to people who like space sci-fi RPGs, albeit to a lesser degree because WH40k is space fantasy. Again, there are very few of these. Want to play a Traveller CRPG? Your options are the Megatraveller games released in 1990 & 1991. Want to play something heavily inspired by Traveller? You're basically **** outta luck.
If you're not aware, Traveller was one of the original tabletop RPGs next to D&D, and remains popular decades later.

The choices for non-post apoc sci-fi RPGs are also very slim, btw. Whether you consider WH40k 'post apoc' is of course, up for debate, but it's also only half sci-fi.

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To summarize, certain games are given more leeway for recommendation when there are few or no alternatives for the setting. This game happens to have a wide appeal to fans of certain settings. I can think of quite a few RPGs like this e.g., if you're a big fan of pirates/age of sail, you have to lower your bar of what you're willing to play as there's very few if any great RPGs in that setting.


OTOH, If you happen to be a fan of post-apoc and RPGs, you get to eat good. Wasteland & Fallout cemented it as a staple of RPGs right below medieval fantasy. So, yes, the 'rating'(recommendability?) of a game depends on its competition, it's graded on a curve.

[1998]

Am I the only one on this **** forum who dislikes this **** game? Like wtf? Yall owldawg shills or something? Actually no wonder Baldarse Gay 3 is the most discussed game here.

It's OK if you know what you are getting into and ready to drop it early. I finish most of my games, but for Owlcat's I don't even pretend that this is the goal. I play for the first 2-3 acts and move on.

[Boontaker]

No it's not.
Who is this "we", here? You sound like a mongoloid coming in from RetardEra, projecting absolutes based in deranged preconceptions.
No-one said "so what" anything, or even implied it. No-one even said "look at the bright side". Take your ******* meds.

Yes, it is. This whole website is a ******* absolutes projection. You kids are doing non stop here. How can I be a mongoloid from Resetera? Isnt that an absolute projection?

Grow the **** up.

There is not a single thing in thus game that is good. Not a single one. It is ****. Mediocre at best. So wat your shut slop *******.

He is, only literally.

Your elitist snobism is leaking out of your arse. Do you need a tissue to plug it in?

No idea why you're so upset. I don't even see anyone saying it's a great game.
There are rabid WH40k fanboys who will devour anything WH40k flavored, and there are a lot worse WH40k branded games than rogue trader. If you're specifically looking for a party-based CRPG — especially one inspired by WH40k's own tabletop RPG line — you have exactly one choice.

It will also overlap with appeal to people who like space sci-fi RPGs, albeit to a lesser degree because WH40k is space fantasy. Again, there are very few of these. Want to play a Traveller CRPG? Your options are the Megatraveller games released in 1990 & 1991. Want to play something heavily inspired by Traveller? You're basically **** outta luck.
If you're not aware, Traveller was one of the original tabletop RPGs next to D&D, and remains popular decades later.

The choices for non-post apoc sci-fi RPGs are also very slim, btw. Whether you consider WH40k 'post apoc' is of course, up for debate, but it's also only half sci-fi.

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To summarize, certain games are given more leeway for recommendation when there are few or no alternatives for the setting. This game happens to have a wide appeal to fans of certain settings. I can think of quite a few RPGs like this e.g., if you're a big fan of pirates/age of sail, you have to lower your bar of what you're willing to play as there's very few if any great RPGs in that setting.


OTOH, If you happen to be a fan of post-apoc and RPGs, you get to eat good. Wasteland & Fallout cemented it as a staple of RPGs right below medieval fantasy. So, yes, the 'rating'(recommendability?) of a game depends on its competition, it's graded on a curve.

I played traveller 2 years ago, rolled up a captain with 7 in vac suit operation (very rare to get this many in 1 skill), his story was he NEVER went down with the ship and had a cursed reputation.

One of the comfiest character creation engines in RPG history

[Yankee Zulu]

No it's not.
Who is this "we", here? You sound like a mongoloid coming in from RetardEra, projecting absolutes based in deranged preconceptions.
No-one said "so what" anything, or even implied it. No-one even said "look at the bright side". Take your ******* meds.

Yes, it is. This whole website is a ******* absolutes projection. You kids are doing non stop here. How can I be a mongoloid from Resetera? Isnt that an absolute projection?

Grow the **** up.

There is not a single thing in thus game that is good. Not a single one. It is ****. Mediocre at best. So wat your shut slop *******.

He is, only literally.

Your elitist snobism is leaking out of your arse. Do you need a tissue to plug it in?

No idea why you're so upset. I don't even see anyone saying it's a great game.
There are rabid WH40k fanboys who will devour anything WH40k flavored, and there are a lot worse WH40k branded games than rogue trader. If you're specifically looking for a party-based CRPG — especially one inspired by WH40k's own tabletop RPG line — you have exactly one choice.

It will also overlap with appeal to people who like space sci-fi RPGs, albeit to a lesser degree because WH40k is space fantasy. Again, there are very few of these. Want to play a Traveller CRPG? Your options are the Megatraveller games released in 1990 & 1991. Want to play something heavily inspired by Traveller? You're basically **** outta luck.
If you're not aware, Traveller was one of the original tabletop RPGs next to D&D, and remains popular decades later.

The choices for non-post apoc sci-fi RPGs are also very slim, btw. Whether you consider WH40k 'post apoc' is of course, up for debate, but it's also only half sci-fi.

---

To summarize, certain games are given more leeway for recommendation when there are few or no alternatives for the setting. This game happens to have a wide appeal to fans of certain settings. I can think of quite a few RPGs like this e.g., if you're a big fan of pirates/age of sail, you have to lower your bar of what you're willing to play as there's very few if any great RPGs in that setting.


OTOH, If you happen to be a fan of post-apoc and RPGs, you get to eat good. Wasteland & Fallout cemented it as a staple of RPGs right below medieval fantasy. So, yes, the 'rating'(recommendability?) of a game depends on its competition, it's graded on a curve.

You havent seen me being upset. And I aint reading that wall of text. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. But its opinions like yours that enable owlcat to do the same **** over and over and over again.

[Kalarion]

Yes, it is. This whole website is a ******* absolutes projection. You kids are doing non stop here. How can I be a mongoloid from Resetera? Isnt that an absolute projection?

Grow the **** up.

There is not a single thing in thus game that is good. Not a single one. It is ****. Mediocre at best. So wat your shut slop *******.

Your elitist snobism is leaking out of your arse. Do you need a tissue to plug it in?

No idea why you're so upset. I don't even see anyone saying it's a great game.
There are rabid WH40k fanboys who will devour anything WH40k flavored, and there are a lot worse WH40k branded games than rogue trader. If you're specifically looking for a party-based CRPG — especially one inspired by WH40k's own tabletop RPG line — you have exactly one choice.

It will also overlap with appeal to people who like space sci-fi RPGs, albeit to a lesser degree because WH40k is space fantasy. Again, there are very few of these. Want to play a Traveller CRPG? Your options are the Megatraveller games released in 1990 & 1991. Want to play something heavily inspired by Traveller? You're basically **** outta luck.
If you're not aware, Traveller was one of the original tabletop RPGs next to D&D, and remains popular decades later.

The choices for non-post apoc sci-fi RPGs are also very slim, btw. Whether you consider WH40k 'post apoc' is of course, up for debate, but it's also only half sci-fi.

---

To summarize, certain games are given more leeway for recommendation when there are few or no alternatives for the setting. This game happens to have a wide appeal to fans of certain settings. I can think of quite a few RPGs like this e.g., if you're a big fan of pirates/age of sail, you have to lower your bar of what you're willing to play as there's very few if any great RPGs in that setting.


OTOH, If you happen to be a fan of post-apoc and RPGs, you get to eat good. Wasteland & Fallout cemented it as a staple of RPGs right below medieval fantasy. So, yes, the 'rating'(recommendability?) of a game depends on its competition, it's graded on a curve.

You havent seen me being upset. And I aint reading that wall of text. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. But its opinions like yours that enable owlcat to do the same **** over and over and over again.

Oh my God just give me the flied lice I ordered you ******** ***** ******.

[Yankee Zulu]

Oh the khokhol cavalry has arrived. Which **** do you want to suck?

[DDC]

This just got put in a bundle with 15 other games for $12 total, although the other games are mostly hot garbage. One of the motliest collections of games I've ever seen in terms of stuff that has decent reviews but that I nonetheless have zero interest in playing.

https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/mov ... ity-bundle

[rusty_shackleford]

There shouldn't even be a heretic 'playthrough', except perhaps being hunted down by the inquisition.

The idea that every RPG needs to offer multiple 'sides' of the same story is silly.

The best example of this is probably mass effect (1).
Renegade is not evil. Renegade is Dirty Harry, Punisher, etc., You're still the cop who fundamentally wants to do Good. Good is not nice.

Any game that attempts to offer both a good and an evil playthru will either end up making two separate games or completely fail at one or the other.