Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[Oyster Sauce]

I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers like Mortisimal gave it recommended, I would lose all respect for him though.

Wow it’s worse then I thought ,said it’s the best in the series. What a ******* joke.I can’t believe how many people took his reviews seriously.

Yeah. He's off the list of reviewers I will bother to listen to forever.
I wonder if he's a closet pegging enjoyer while wearing "his wife's" lingerie now, too.

Probably lost his objectivity because this was the first game someone gave him an advance copy of.

Just checked his Starfield review. He called it a great RPG and recommended that people buy it.

[Luckmann]

For reference, this dialogue option is the one everybody made fun of DA2 for.

In retrospect, Bioware killed DA already back then. DA:E has its moments, but the repetitive use of maps and the horrible writing for esp. Anders was really the first nail in the coffin. Oh, and enemies dropping from about 30 meters height down to street level and fighting. That was not so good, either.

... in retrospect?

[Luckmann]

Lmao the dialogue wheel. Even bethesda stopped using it after fo4 was widely **** on for it, and bethesda almost never learns from feedback. Same deal with voiced protagonist.

All the Mass Effects and the last two Dragon Ages had it, why wouldn't it? This is the Bioware way, cinematic RPGs. Yeah, BG3 showed that this is something most people really don't care about, but they're stuck in their ways.

Also, they claim it as their own IP and have a patent on it, IIRC, so they probably consider it part of product identity at this point, which is of course ********, but here we are.

[rusty_shackleford]

Also, they claim it as their own IP and have a patent on it, IIRC, so they probably consider it part of product identity at this point, which is of course ********, but here we are.

patiently waiting for one of these to actually be taken to court and btfo instead of merely using it for corporate bullying of small developers

[Rand]

they claim it as their own IP and have a patent on it, IIRC

The patent they have is with a divided dialogue wheel. With breaks between the sections.
(Or is it an undivided one? **** me, I can't remember.)
Anyway, they couldn't patent the wheel itself, just some trivial variation of it.
(Which is stupid enough, tbh. Patents have gotten ridiculous and maybe always were.)

[Rand]

Double checked. It's only segmented wheels they can sue for.


https://patentarcade.com/2022/03/u-s-pa ... ialog.html

[rusty_shackleford]

they claim it as their own IP and have a patent on it, IIRC

The patent they have is with a divided dialogue wheel. With breaks between the sections.
(Or is it an undivided one? **** me, I can't remember.)
Anyway, they couldn't patent the wheel itself, just some trivial variation of it.
(Which is stupid enough, tbh. Patents have gotten ridiculous and maybe always were.)

Getting a patent approved is the easy part, the hard part is defending it. Unless you're a corporation the size of EA who can just use it to bully.

[Rand]

A gem in the patent:



They claim as a feature exactly what's wrong with it as an RPG interface.

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't like 'dialogue trees'(i.e., selecting dialogue options from a list) at all and think they do more harm than good, tho.

Other than dialogue wheels and actual dialogue choices, what other options are there?

It's a highly abused tool to the point where most developers would be better off without it at all than what they actually use it for. Anytime you see a dialogue choice that is actually an action, that is gameplay being ripped from the game and turned into a text adventure.
I have a lot of other issues with specific parts of RPG dialogue e.g., showing skill checks on dialogue choices is awful design.

As an example with the RPG I'm currently playing(WL3), I'll often have "dialogue" that is just a list like: "[Weird Science 7] do science stuff" "[Mechanics 5] Do Mechanics Stuff" "[Lockpicking 9] Do lockpicking stuff" "time 4 fite :DDDD"

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Oh, and Fallout's "Tell Me About" was actually a very good compromise but underutilized. Being able to get the most basic stuff handed to you but being expected to pay attention for the rest is an improvement over the current situation. Perhaps combine the "Tell Me About" with learned keywords too.

[fkirenicus]

... in retrospect?

Well, they hadn't completely botched it back in 2011 or what's-it. You could still be a blood mage, for example. Though it makes for a strange choice in Hawke's regard, given his or her family's story.

[rusty_shackleford]

reminder that game journos have openly admitted to giving higher review scores if they thought giving a 'fair' review meant people might be fired btw
go look up the review scores for deathloop

everyone knows what bioware is facing when this flops

[rusty_shackleford]

"lineage"


this isn't korea this ain't the blood pledge, those are fuckin races

[UltraFan123]

reminder that game journos have openly admitted to giving higher review scores if they thought giving a 'fair' review meant people might be fired btw
go look up the review scores for deathloop

everyone knows what bioware is facing when this flops

God forbid that incompetent idiots lose their jobs. lmfao

EDIT:

"lineage"


this isn't korea this ain't the blood pledge, those are fuckin races

What I find odd is that they don't replace "race" with something that even makes sense like "species". It always has to be some fancy "lineage" or "ancestry".

[Xenich]

reminder that game journos have openly admitted to giving higher review scores if they thought giving a 'fair' review meant people might be fired btw
go look up the review scores for deathloop

everyone knows what bioware is facing when this flops

Never understood that crap.

"I mean, oh noes... we don't want to tell the truth because people will be fired!"

I hated working with people like that. I believe in fair chances, but if you can't do the job, you shouldn't be working there and I don't care about "I gotz five kidz to feed", here is your check, bye.

[cleansingcarnage]

"lineage"


this isn't korea this ain't the blood pledge, those are fuckin races

Why the **** is everyone so small in this game

[UltraFan123]

"lineage"


this isn't korea this ain't the blood pledge, those are fuckin races

Why the **** is everyone so small in this game

The character models were cartoonized on purpose; the heads are bigger than they should and the arms are longer as well.

[fkirenicus]

What I find odd is that they don't replace "race" with something that even makes sense like "species". It always has to be some fancy "lineage" or "ancestry".

You know, that's just short (pun intended) for "I am a small people who some offensively call a female dwarf, since I actually identify as 2 m tall horny them who is a panintersexual homicidal necrophiliac".
In that regard, "lineage" works just as well.

[WhiteShark]

What I find odd is that they don't replace "race" with something that even makes sense like "species". It always has to be some fancy "lineage" or "ancestry".

I was writing a response to this along the lines of how they want to get away from the genetic implications of race and thus would not be interested in using species, but it turns out WotC actually has changed 'race' to 'species' in D&D One, so I guess leftists just really hate the word race.

[UltraFan123]

What I find odd is that they don't replace "race" with something that even makes sense like "species". It always has to be some fancy "lineage" or "ancestry".

I was writing a response to this along the lines of how they want to get away from the genetic implications of race and thus would not be interested in using species, but it turns out WotC actually has changed 'race' to 'species' in D&D One, so I guess leftists just really hate the word race.

For a group that loves bringing up racial topics in the real world all the time, they sure seem to hate it on fictional settings it seems.

Same thing with slavery, I reckon.

[cleansingcarnage]

From a real review, btw.

I had to confirm it for myself, but it appears that this truly is in the game.

Most of the very positive reviews out already directly reference gay and ****** **** as one of the best features of the game. I think it may be safe to say that this is the gayest AAA game of all time.

[rusty_shackleford]

I think it may be safe to say that this is the gayest AAA game of all time.

gayest AAA game of all time so far!

[gerey]

"lineage"


this isn't korea this ain't the blood pledge, those are fuckin races

I see BioWare is still struggling with human proportions. I guess it was too much to ask for them to figure it out in these past 15 years.

[rusty_shackleford]

shillup's failguard review:

it was genuinely shocking to me to see just how safe and cheery and bright and G-rated this whole thing was like genuinely shocked

the definition of "mature rated" for libtards just means "we're forced to rate this mature because it has gay buttsex even though we want to show it to children", not that it actually contains mature storytelling

the older I've gotten, the more I've become immediately on guard when a liberal produces anything aimed at children. Because I've seen their stuff aimed at adults, and it's the exact same content except with sex.

[Brother Chad]

This thing is going to be a nuke when it launches.

I've never been so excited for a game I won't even watch on youtube.

[gerey]

and it's the exact same content except with se

Even the stuff they make for children is full of gay buttsex.

[rusty_shackleford]

Bioware, 1998: Companions can be incompatible with each other and will actively antagonize each other until they come to blows and fight to the death. There is no 'solving' their 'problem', people are not clay for you to mold. You must accept that not everyone will like or tolerate everyone else.
Bioware, 2024:

[W1llus]

Having seen this game and every sequel past Origins I'm convinced Origins was truly a lightning-in-the-bottle success that could never be repeated not even by its own studio.

[Jordy]

>game director becomes full *****
>game becomes full *****
>shocked pikachu

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Considering how the devs are only giving early access to their ****-sucking shills, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out with a "perfect" score all around. lol

I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers like Mortisimal gave it recommended, I would lose all respect for him though.

Wow it’s worse then I thought ,said it’s the best in the series. What a ******* joke.I can’t believe how many people took his reviews seriously.

Yeah. He's off the list of reviewers I will bother to listen to forever.
I wonder if he's a closet pegging enjoyer while wearing "his wife's" lingerie now, too.

I hope the shekels were worth because any other RPG gaming channel giving this game praise is on ******* NOTICE.


Pathetic all around. whores have more integrity and honestly then these people.

[Vergil]

Bioware, 1998: Companions can be incompatible with each other and will actively antagonize each other until they come to blows and fight to the death. There is no 'solving' their 'problem', people are not clay for you to mold. You must accept that not everyone will like or tolerate everyone else.
Bioware, 2024:

lol what an ugly game