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Envergence wrote: October 27th, 2024, 21:02
Words cannot properly express how much I resent Patrick Weekes specifically. The ****** who worked on Sims 4 is awful for obvious reasons, but he's a recent addition. Weekes has been actively ruining the series since he was brought on and given so much liberty to hijack and ruin the story and lore. It seems no one ever told him no, and I just don't understand why. Him playing the "non-binary" card is recent, and its purpose is clearly to serve as a social shield and badge of authority so that he can keep doing anything he wants, free of any and all criticism.

Also, on social media he types like a teenager; middle-aged people who type like teenagers are inherently predatory. The purpose of typing that way is to lure in the youth. Call this a ****** theory if you want, but I sincerely believe this. I think that kind of typing from any adult, but especially middle-aged ones, should automatically set off red flags.
I do not follow neither Weekes nor any of the other DA writers on social media (don't use social media, actually) so cannot comment on his predatory nature (though nothing would surprise me). But I agree whole-heartedly that he more or less single-handedly has wrecked the DA lore - though Gaider himself did not actually do a wonderful job in his last DA novel Asunder, either (the prequel to DAI, if memory serves). But the "let's make the empress lesbian and ELVES ELVES ELVES the real powerhouse" of Weekes' really gave me doubts about the whole thing.

A doubt which now with this woke garbage piece of sheeeeet they are about to release has been confirmed.
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All right place your bets on the critic scores for tomorrow. I’m guessing mid 85 on metacritic and for user scores on release day will be mid to low 70’s.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: October 28th, 2024, 01:11
All right place your bets on the critic scores for tomorrow. I’m guessing mid 85 on metacritic and for user scores on release day will be mid to low 70’s.
Considering how the devs are only giving early access to their ****-sucking chills, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out with a "perfect" score all around. lol
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UltraFan123 wrote: October 28th, 2024, 01:35
Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: October 28th, 2024, 01:11
All right place your bets on the critic scores for tomorrow. I’m guessing mid 85 on metacritic and for user scores on release day will be mid to low 70’s.
Considering how the devs are only giving early access to their ****-sucking chills, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out with a "perfect" score all around. lol

I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers like Mostismal gave it recommended, I would loose all repeat for him though.
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Envergence wrote: October 27th, 2024, 19:30
No, I established in an earlier post that I'm going to pirate it, lol. I'm painfully aware of all the awfulness behind it which is precisely why I won't be giving them my money. Modern BioWare is hot garbage. :sad:

Edit: And I really just want some adventures with the few companions I might like. At this point, I just want to see if there is anything salvageable or redeemable about it. Hopeful about the former, but doubtful about the latter due to DEI.
Glad you are not going to feed woke monster and somewhat understand your motive (guilty of watching half the first season of the "First Female Doctor Who" before admitting defeat). Can only repeat, you will not find what you are searching for. You can as well play Dustborn - it is definitely "some adventures with the few companions" - but I would not expect any fun there either.

DA joined the graveyard of franchises killed by the activists. RIP, old friend.

Will try to not forget to join the the Origin numbers boosting on Oct.31 in memory of good times.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: October 28th, 2024, 01:11
All right place your bets on the critic scores for tomorrow. I’m guessing mid 85 on metacritic and for user scores on release day will be mid to low 70’s.
~55-60 for user scores
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WaterMage wrote: October 26th, 2024, 21:33
We could organize the following. At day 31, everyone here should play Origins.

If everyone here logs into Origins, we can boost Origins player count. We need to make Origins have more active players than Failguard!!! Origins has 1118 players > https://steamcharts.com/app/47810 Lets try to make it have at least 10k.
Unless people own it already on steam not a good idea to give them money. And even then they will probably think, oh that game is popular we should remake/ruin it and then remove the old version for people to buy. :yuck:

Just laughing at them is enough and see that franchise and Bioware die.
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WaterMage wrote: October 26th, 2024, 21:33
We could organize the following. At day 31, everyone here should play Origins.

If everyone here logs into Origins, we can boost Origins player count. We need to make Origins have more active players than Failguard!!! Origins has 1118 players > https://steamcharts.com/app/47810 Lets try to make it have at least 10k.
I would, but I lost access to my Origin account when I was banned on the Bioware Social Site for calling Ray Muzyka a lying hack. ;)

Which is coincidentally also why I'll only ever pirate Electronic Arts games, by the way, since they'll apparently gladly restrict your access to the things you've bought if you anger the wrong people.
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10/10 dialogue

...Qunari models almost made me hurl.
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Oh, Jesus ******* Christ. These webms are rapidly cooling off my perverse-curiosity-fueled enthusiasm to play this game. I don't do well with cringe.
I guess I'll buy some alcohol or something to numb myself to it a little.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 27th, 2024, 18:57
Lmao the dialogue wheel. Even bethesda stopped using it after fo4 was widely **** on for it, and bethesda almost never learns from feedback. Same deal with voiced protagonist.
All the Mass Effects and the last two Dragon Ages had it, why wouldn't it? This is the Bioware way, cinematic RPGs. Yeah, BG3 showed that this is something most people really don't care about, but they're stuck in their ways.
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Roguey wrote: October 28th, 2024, 11:32
rusty_shackleford wrote: October 27th, 2024, 18:57
Lmao the dialogue wheel. Even bethesda stopped using it after fo4 was widely **** on for it, and bethesda almost never learns from feedback. Same deal with voiced protagonist.
All the Mass Effects and the last two Dragon Ages had it, why wouldn't it? This is the Bioware way, cinematic RPGs. Yeah, BG3 showed that this is something most people really don't care about, but they're stuck in their ways.
because it was widely panned and it's the one mechanic they actually decided to keep while throwing every other thing away
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Good grief. :headbang:
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"Point out the strengths of living in different worlds"

:pipe-thinking:
You aren't 100% ****** I guess.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 28th, 2024, 11:47
because it was widely panned and it's the one mechanic they actually decided to keep while throwing every other thing away
hope that helps
I don't recall anyone griping about it in Mass Effect. Origins hardliners griped about in II, no one cared in Inquisition.
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Roguey wrote: October 28th, 2024, 12:17
no one cared in Inquisition.
It's a big part of why I didn't play DA2 even though I loved Origins. I wasn't around to care.
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Veilguard pre-orders doing worse than star wars outlaws did on the PlayStation store.
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cleansingcarnage wrote: October 27th, 2024, 20:39
Envergence wrote: October 27th, 2024, 18:38
The amount of auto-dialogue in this game is so off-putting and discouraging. I thought ME3 was egregiously bad about it, but this might be worse. I hope we can at least control the tone of it in the same vein as DA2 (i.e. your most-picked attitude determines the tone of the auto-dialogue), but I'm not optimistic at all.

This, plus not carrying over any decisions from the previous games--outside of three insignificant choices from Inquisition--make me question what the developers were thinking. They spew out excuses to justify their "creative" decisions for the narrative (along with trying to use "muh lore" to justify the goofy enemy redesigns, lmao), but if the story and RP aren't good enough for these design choices to pay off, then they alienated a large portion of their original fan base for nothing.

Only time will tell, and I'm running out of copium.
What were they thinking? That's easy to answer. EA was thinking, as it always does, that it needs to chase the money by following trends.

EA was thinking, "hey, hero-based live service games are making the most money in the industry right now. Make the new Dragon Age that. Alright, that isn't working... well God of War 2018 made a lot of money, make it that."

The "people" at Bioware in charge of making creative decisions about the game are literally just thinking about how they can make it more gay as some kind of moral imperative. That's all they care about because the scope of their awareness doesn't contain anything other than queering up fantasy fiction.

The Bioware devs were thinking, "How do I make a character who is like Phoebe Waller-Bridge from Fleabag, non-binary, and black or biracial (in skin tone but not culturally, since that wouldn't fit in a fantasy setting)?"

That last one is not hyperbole, that is almost a direct quote from Patrick Weekes.
Envergence wrote: October 27th, 2024, 21:02
cleansingcarnage wrote: October 27th, 2024, 20:39
Envergence wrote: October 27th, 2024, 18:38
The amount of auto-dialogue in this game is so off-putting and discouraging. I thought ME3 was egregiously bad about it, but this might be worse. I hope we can at least control the tone of it in the same vein as DA2 (i.e. your most-picked attitude determines the tone of the auto-dialogue), but I'm not optimistic at all.

This, plus not carrying over any decisions from the previous games--outside of three insignificant choices from Inquisition--make me question what the developers were thinking. They spew out excuses to justify their "creative" decisions for the narrative (along with trying to use "muh lore" to justify the goofy enemy redesigns, lmao), but if the story and RP aren't good enough for these design choices to pay off, then they alienated a large portion of their original fan base for nothing.

Only time will tell, and I'm running out of copium.
That last one is not hyperbole, that is almost a direct quote from Patrick Weekes.
Words cannot properly express how much I resent Patrick Weekes specifically. The ****** who worked on Sims 4 is awful for obvious reasons, but he's a recent addition. Weekes has been actively ruining the series since he was brought on and given so much liberty to hijack and ruin the story and lore. It seems no one ever told him no, and I just don't understand why. Him playing the "non-binary" card is recent, and its purpose is clearly to serve as a social shield and badge of authority so that he can keep doing anything he wants, free of any and all criticism.

Also, on social media he types like a teenager; middle-aged people who type like teenagers are inherently predatory. The purpose of typing that way is to lure in the youth. Call this a ****** theory if you want, but I sincerely believe this. I think that kind of typing from any adult, but especially middle-aged ones, should automatically set off red flags.
His name is Trick, btw.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick_Weekes

Yes, a 50-something year old male dyed his hair blue and changed his name
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wearing religious garments because you think they look cool is incredibly offensive, btw.
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Can you guys explain me, why dialogue wheel from mass effect one is a bad thing?
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:18
Can you guys explain me, why dialogue wheel from mass effect one is a bad thing?
HATE NEWSPAPERS

wait, wrong game

HATE JOURNALISTS


Ah yea there we go
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:19
Faceless_Sentinel wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:18
Can you guys explain me, why dialogue wheel from mass effect one is a bad thing?
HATE NEWSPAPERS

wait, wrong game

HATE JOURNALISTS


Ah yea there we go
I need more explanation, please.
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:22
rusty_shackleford wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:19
Faceless_Sentinel wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:18
Can you guys explain me, why dialogue wheel from mass effect one is a bad thing?
HATE NEWSPAPERS

wait, wrong game

HATE JOURNALISTS


Ah yea there we go
I need more explanation, please.
The generally accepted reason for why it's hated is because you have no idea what your character is going to actually say, at best you can just guess.

I don't like 'dialogue trees'(i.e., selecting dialogue options from a list) at all and think they do more harm than good, tho.
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Average Veilguard enjoyer

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Segata wrote: October 28th, 2024, 13:38
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What type of life this people leave? Where did they get money on that kind of expensive stuff?

To be honest, I believe this is not real people, just made up story by advertisers, like bots on X celebrating every time character in established media franchises race or sex swapped or trooned.
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Faceless_Sentinel wrote: October 28th, 2024, 14:11
What type of life this people leave? Where did they get money on that kind of expensive stuff?
Going to guess they're DINCs (Dual Income No Children).
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rusty_shackleford wrote: October 28th, 2024, 12:44
Yes, a 50-something year old male dyed his hair blue and changed his name
"pansexual"
Ugh he and his wife are definitely in an open marriage where he's just ******* dudes.
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Roguey wrote: October 28th, 2024, 14:22
Ugh he and his wife are definitely in an open marriage where he's just ******* dudes.
Optimistic of you to assume he's ******* (or being ****** by) anything. More likely is that he sits in the **** chair after he's finished prepping the bull.
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Stupid game journos(redundancy) are already giving huge scores for this ****.
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: October 28th, 2024, 01:52
I wouldn’t be surprised if reviewers like Mortisimal Gaming gave it recommended, I would lose all respect for him though.
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You called it.
You may as well not bother replying to my posts if it's to argue anything except concrete facts or your personal opinion. I still probably won't see it.
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