Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[DagothGeas5]

ME1+2+3 is probably about the same length as DAO+DLCs.

Holy ****

Hope you have fun with it once you play it loregamer!

[logincrash]

The DLCs are also pretty good. IMO you can just say the story ended at the end of the last DLC(Witch Hunt), and it's a fine ending. Not everything needs to be wrapped up. People who played it will know what I'm referring to.

Witch Hunt is the true happy ending for the Grey Warden in DAO. Be a family man and raise your son.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

The DLCs are also pretty good. IMO you can just say the story ended at the end of the last DLC(Witch Hunt), and it's a fine ending. Not everything needs to be wrapped up. People who played it will know what I'm referring to.

Witch Hunt is the true happy ending for the Grey Warden in DAO. Be a family man and raise your son.

And then BioWare ****** it up by the sequels....

It’s quite rare to see game franchise that gets significantly worse with each instalment.

[logincrash]

It’s quite rare to see game franchise that gets significantly worse with each instalment.

Is it? I thought it was more the rule than the exception. Both the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series are this. Bethesda's Fallout games and the Elder Scrolls series. Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed. Those are hugely popular franchises and they all exhibit a downward trend in quality, whether gameplay-wise or on the full-of-faggotry front.

[Manny V]

i've yet to see a franchise that has objectively gotten better over the years

[1998]

It’s quite rare to see game franchise that gets significantly worse with each instalment.

Is it? I thought it was more the rule than the exception. Both the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series are this. Bethesda's Fallout games and the Elder Scrolls series. Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed. Those are hugely popular franchises and they all exhibit a downward trend in quality, whether gameplay-wise or on the full-of-faggotry front.

I was about to say the same, but Dragon Age is really an exceptionally steep and steady decline.

[A Chinese opium den]

i've yet to see a franchise that has objectively gotten better over the years

There's got to be at least one... I'll come back to this when I think of it.

[logincrash]

I was about to say the same, but Dragon Age is really an exceptionally steep and steady decline.

I really think Bethesda's games have Dragon Age beat. They remove more and more of what you'd think are important core gameplay features (like ******* skills and stats and classes) and make the quests more and more ******** with every game.

[UltraFan123]

I was about to say the same, but Dragon Age is really an exceptionally steep and steady decline.

I really think Bethesda's games have Dragon Age beat. They remove more and more of what you'd think are important core gameplay features (like ******* skills and stats and classes) and make the quests more and more ******** with every game.

This is what happens when the ones who prioritize fanfic stories over solid mechanics - the ones known as "theater kids" - take over game development.

I reckon that's what happened with mainstreaming tabletop gaming like modern DnD as well.

[1998]

i've yet to see a franchise that has objectively gotten better over the years

There's got to be at least one... I'll come back to this when I think of it.

Maybe Pillars? I only played the first one, hate all nu-Obs games, but isn't the consensus POE < White Marsh < POE2?. Of course, all on a very low level

[gerey]

I was about to say the same, but Dragon Age is really an exceptionally steep and steady decline.

Dragon Age is a microcosm of the devolution of games. From a (relatively) ambitious and well-made original game that knew who the audience was, onto a rushed, cheaply made corporate cashgrab, ending up as a proto-GaaS laced with woke politics in the third game, before reaching the apex of its grotesque journey with Deadname.

[RangerBoo]

Oh, Jesus, ****, this insufferable **** is in this game too.

► link to tweet

At least there are three other VAs for the protagonist.

***** is more or less the female Matt Mercer in that she is starting to be the leading female voice in everything now. Funny I should say that as Critical Role has a lot of influence in the gaming and dubbing community and Mercer is able to pull strings and make sure that he and his buddies get leading roles in big AAA projects over that of new talent. Critical Role is basically a voice actor mafia at this point.

[Finarfin]

All people like Gaider did was make me realize how wrong I was to be tolerant. You aren't allowed to oppose games being about ****** relationships with character creators that have surgically mutilated breasts because a game the developer released 15 years ago had a homosexual in it.

I mean this sincerely — Thank You, Gaider, for helping me see the error of my ways. You made me realize that tolerance is a vice, not a virtue.

[Brother Chad]

i've yet to see a franchise that has objectively gotten better over the years

Arguably the Dollars Trilogy. It had the advantage of being produced back-to-back though.

[Tag365]

It’s quite rare to see game franchise that gets significantly worse with each instalment.

Is it? I thought it was more the rule than the exception. Both the Mass Effect and Dragon Age series are this. Bethesda's Fallout games and the Elder Scrolls series. Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed. Those are hugely popular franchises and they all exhibit a downward trend in quality, whether gameplay-wise or on the full-of-faggotry front.

I was about to say the same, but Dragon Age is really an exceptionally steep and steady decline.

I thought it was like a first installments mountain, where the first few are good, then the series starts to decline in quality. Like with Halo, Halo 2 and 3 are considered the best, Halo: Reach is considered similar or worse quality, then the series started declining with Halo 4 and became a small shadow of its former self unable to compete with other shooter games like Call of Duty. Or The Elder Scrolls, where the main series started getting better until the third game in Morrowind, then Oblivion started the series sins that would get more severe with Skyrim. Or Bioware in general, their first five games were great quality according to their fans, then they started degrading after Baldur's Gate 2 over time...

[Ratcatcher]

i've yet to see a franchise that has objectively gotten better over the years

Dominions, by Illwinter.

[GalwainOthmark]

Dominions, by Illwinter.

That they are the only ones making fantasy 4x actually based on crazy IRL mythology and religion is criminal.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

[ArcaneLurker]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

My expectation was for them to not carry forward any player decisions from the previous games.

[SoLong]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

Incompetent ******** are ******* over continuity and invalidating everything that happened before they infested the franchise? Who could've possibly seen that coming?

For ****'s sake Bioware, what happened to you? I was one of the few people to see some glimpses of good stuff in ******* Andromeda and yet you keep getting worse. How did a once legendary studio become this **** this fast?

Maybe I don't want another Mass Effect after all. Andromeda was pretty bad but it could've been worse, I guess. Maybe it's time to stop and bury the franchise with a modicum of dignity before the worthless brainrotted post-modern ******* desecrate it as well.

RIP Dragon Age, it was nice knowing you.

[jebacdrkac]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

Probably a blessing in disguise; I don't want the current Bioware 'writers' touching anything related to the Warden, Morrigan, Hawke, etc.

[ArcaneLurker]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

Probably a blessing in disguise; I don't want the current Bioware 'writers' touching anything related to the Warden, Morrigan, Hawke, etc.

Oh, I think they're definitely going to be defiling those characters even more, there just isn't going to be player input, because the correct choice will be decided for them-- I'm guessing.

[Tweed]

I don't care what they defile past DA:O, nothing past the first game exists.

[Vergil]

This is quite concerning if you ask me.



Basically, the in-game models were purposely made so they have oversized heads and small stubby limbs relative to their entire bodies. In other words, the characters were actively given "cartoon bodies".

What really bothers me on a deep level is how a series known for being "grimdark" or at the very least to be inclined towards the dark side of the fantasy genre was deliberately targeted in order to infantilize it.

I think you should be raped to death for posting an asmongold clip personally (no disrespect)

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

This is quite concerning if you ask me.



Basically, the in-game models were purposely made so they have oversized heads and small stubby limbs relative to their entire bodies. In other words, the characters were actively given "cartoon bodies".

What really bothers me on a deep level is how a series known for being "grimdark" or at the very least to be inclined towards the dark side of the fantasy genre was deliberately targeted in order to infantilize it.

I think you should be raped to death for posting an asmongold clip personally (no disrespect)

He does have some interesting takes from time to time which is step above most commentators on YouTube.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

My expectation was for them to not carry forward any player decisions from the previous games.

It was interesting seeing even the YouTubers who we’re pretty
positive about the game getting upset, shits getting that bad.

[ArcaneLurker]

I’m not even surprised at this point.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/drago ... n-origins/

My expectation was for them to not carry forward any player decisions from the previous games.

It was interesting seeing even the YouTubers who we’re pretty
positive about the game getting upset, shits getting that bad.

It would be pretty weird for everything but gaming to be a flaming pile of ****.
We are at unprecedented levels of ****** in so many ways

[Luckmann]

So quirky!

For ****'s sake Bioware, what happened to you? I was one of the few people to see some glimpses of good stuff in ******* Andromeda and yet you keep getting worse. How did a once legendary studio become this **** this fast?

Electronic Arts. "Bioware" has been a skinsuit brand since 2010 or so.

[fkirenicus]

(Vergil, who else? Perhaps Jordy or the teenage mutant turtlestack, come to think of it...)
I think you should be raped to death for posting an asmongold clip personally (no disrespect)

I wonder if statements like this are part of the reason why HQ is being banned from service after service? This has nothing to do with "free speech" - this is a cry for much needed medical help.

[Stack of Turtles]

(Vergil, who else? Perhaps Jordy, come to think of it...)
I think you should be raped to death for posting an asmongold clip personally (no disrespect)

I wonder if statements like this are part of the reason why HQ is being banned from service after service? This has nothing to do with "free speech" - this is a cry for much needed medical help.

I think you should be raped to death, personally. Disrespect.