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BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 19:16
orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 16:26
BannedForBeingSane wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 13:17
I ended up using the BG3 Mod Manager the community made. I am still at the nautiloid, so I have no idea if the mods are working. However, a mod which let me increase my party size (which was supported by the game's own new mod manager) is working, as well as a Nexus Mod which lets me create custom companions.

The No Alphabet mods were inactive when I ran the Mod Manager of the community, so I activated them. The game runs, but I have yet to see if it works. So far from this website I have installed the No Alphabet pack (no CCreator) and the Better Romance.

@orinEsque , what will be the first sign in the campaign that the No Alphabet mod is working? The first change in the game?

Edit: Ah, ****. I didn't install the mod fixer. Do I have to start a new game? I just reached Shadowheart.
You'll find some "adventurers" trying to intimidate you into not entering a tomb/temple. The female mage its carrying a love letter from her lesbian gf. It should now be a letter from a man. Quelenna i think is the mages name πŸ€”
You're talking about the halfling bickering with his buddy as you approach the temple in the beach?
Yeah, you know the one where after you kill or intimidate the ones outside, the guys inside wanna know what is happening? The group there has Quelenna, a high elven mage. This one:
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Dialogue in BG3:


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"I turned Gale down multiple times then asked about his cat
From there the options were
>Bang
>Bang
>I hate animals this conversation sucks
I was a druid"



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"**** I literaly had this:
>be male
>recruite Gale
>be friendly
>tells him to accept his fate as a suicide bomber for Mystra and saying it's for a good cause
>Gale: okay.jpeg
>get invited for some bro to bro talk
>accept
>sit with him to talk
>****** writers immediately treat this as an invitation for gay sex when i was just being nice to him
It kind of went from annoying to funny to me. Like when shadowheart finally made it official he gave me this sad break up speech. Really gale? Are you joking? I had just finished telling him to stop being such a ****** when he wanted to look at the sky with me."

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Unknown998 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:03
Dialogue in BG3:


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"I turned Gale down multiple times then asked about his cat
From there the options were
>Bang
>Bang
>I hate animals this conversation sucks
I was a druid"



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"**** I literaly had this:
>be male
>recruite Gale
>be friendly
>tells him to accept his fate as a suicide bomber for Mystra and saying it's for a good cause
>Gale: okay.jpeg
>get invited for some bro to bro talk
>accept
>sit with him to talk
>****** writers immediately treat this as an invitation for gay sex when i was just being nice to him
It kind of went from annoying to funny to me. Like when shadowheart finally made it official he gave me this sad break up speech. Really gale? Are you joking? I had just finished telling him to stop being such a ****** when he wanted to look at the sky with me."

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I should probably get to updating Better Romance
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loregamer wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:15
I should probably get to updating Better Romance
We have 3 "emergency" or "must have" or as I prefer call it "gentleman's kit" mods:
1. No Alphabets;
2. Baldur's Better Aesthetics;
3. Better Romance.

Without this 3 game is unstartable. Literally shortcut icon is unclickable. You can fix any of them in any order that you like, just focus on this 3. Having ability to launch a game kinda necessary.
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Still no mod to change the terrible voice acting or story telling.
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Jordy wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:44
Still no mod to change the terrible voice acting or story telling.
At that point it's just "Form your own studio, attain millions in funding, and make your own game bro".
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BobT wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 21:46
Jordy wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:44
Still no mod to change the terrible voice acting or story telling.
At that point it's just "Form your own studio, attain millions in funding, and make your own game bro".
Yep, for the record, not criticising anyone here. I'm aware if it could be done it would have.
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Negroid Elf.....with slitty eyes?
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Unknown998 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 22:20
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Negroid Elf.....with slitty eyes?
No need to worry about these. My Script will catch him.
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Its curious that part of Baldurs gate that has the highest concentration of Elves is the thieves guild in a sewer....and theyr mostly Bantu Elves......Isnt such a depiction "reinforcing racist stereotypes" ah Larian?
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Stack of Turtles wrote: ↑ September 13th, 2024, 21:36
Finarfin wrote: ↑ September 13th, 2024, 21:20
>Elf with Beard
**** this ****. (Except when it's tolkien, and even then only Cirdan has one)
Elves should get to have beards. Beards are cool.
Only half-elves.
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Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
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Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
And when they see the list, they'll start crying like "with all that effort you should just make your own games instead!"

Like clockwork, literal NPCs. I swear.
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UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:14
Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
And when they see the list, they'll start crying like "with all that effort you should just make your own games instead!"

Like clockwork, literal NPCs. I swear.
Making a game and a mod are very different things. One already has the assets and frame work already in place for the user ( essentially a Lego set) the other requires you build it from scratch ( building a house/ car). The technical know how and financial resources required to build the latter is significantly higher compared the former where is a hobby or small passion project.

The fact NPC would say β€œ just make your own games instead” prove once again they’re ******* *******.
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First post of this thread has the "Log" tab, most changes are surely contained in there. Though seeing the exact list would probably be more impressive
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Unhelpful Contrarian wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:28
UltraFan123 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:14
Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
And when they see the list, they'll start crying like "with all that effort you should just make your own games instead!"

Like clockwork, literal NPCs. I swear.
Making a game and a mod are very different things. One already has the assets and frame work already in place for the user ( essentially a Lego set) the other requires you build it from scratch ( building a house/ car). The technical know how and financial resources required to build the latter is significantly higher compared the former where is a hobby or small passion project.

The fact NPC would say β€œ just make your own games instead” prove once again they’re ******* *******.
They possibly know that, but it won't stop them from making the claim. The defenders of all this garbage are really sub intellect types and excessive liars. It isn't about getting one over on them as much as it is making them look like the idiots they are to everyone else in the room. They will sink with the ship, but if you make them look stupid enough, eventually they are the only one in it when it sinks.
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Envuen wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:29
First post of this thread has the "Log" tab, most changes are surely contained in there. Though seeing the exact list would probably be more impressive
I saw that, I just wasn't sure if it was comprehensive and included "all" changes no matter how small.
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Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
I have it all in table format. You'll get full analytics :mrgreen:
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Hmm the only group of exclusively white men you can meet in this game are Ethels redcaps partying in the "Blushing mermaid" What did Larian mean by this I wonder?
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Once again, thank you guys for keeping up with the mods long after the game has come out. I'll probably do a final playthrough a few months from now. Hoping they've ironed out the kinks from this final "update" and at least some of the mods here are working again.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 00:20
Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
I have it all in table format. You'll get full analytics :mrgreen:
Don't suppose you're going out of your way to track straight couples? I'm very interested in what the actual ratio is.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 02:41
orinEsque wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 00:20
Xenich wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 23:08
Hey @orinEsque , are you or anyone else keeping a change log of every change made? Would be interesting once most of the work done to have a massive list of all the woke stuff changed just for the occasional drop when some idiot goes off about there not being much of it in game and people are complaining to much. The list has to be massive at this point.
I have it all in table format. You'll get full analytics :mrgreen:
Don't suppose you're going out of your way to track straight couples? I'm very interested in what the actual ratio is.
Those kind of need manually spotting. When we played we found VERY few hetero couples.
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Unknown998 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:03
Dialogue in BG3:


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"I turned Gale down multiple times then asked about his cat
From there the options were
>Bang
>Bang
>I hate animals this conversation sucks
I was a druid"



Image


"**** I literaly had this:
>be male
>recruite Gale
>be friendly
>tells him to accept his fate as a suicide bomber for Mystra and saying it's for a good cause
>Gale: okay.jpeg
>get invited for some bro to bro talk
>accept
>sit with him to talk
>****** writers immediately treat this as an invitation for gay sex when i was just being nice to him
It kind of went from annoying to funny to me. Like when shadowheart finally made it official he gave me this sad break up speech. Really gale? Are you joking? I had just finished telling him to stop being such a ****** when he wanted to look at the sky with me."

Game of the year!
Why are these the only dialogue choices:
  • Flirt
  • Flirt
  • Be an abrasive ******* for no reason
Did no one on that team ever hear of letting someone down gently? Or are these writers so convinced of their own genius that the only reason their players would turn down their characters is because they were role-playing sociophobes?

Edit: Googling this issue showed me it's apparently all over the ******* game with every single companion. Because of ******* course.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 07:30
Unknown998 wrote: ↑ September 15th, 2024, 20:03
Dialogue in BG3:


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"I turned Gale down multiple times then asked about his cat
From there the options were
>Bang
>Bang
>I hate animals this conversation sucks
I was a druid"



Image


"**** I literaly had this:
>be male
>recruite Gale
>be friendly
>tells him to accept his fate as a suicide bomber for Mystra and saying it's for a good cause
>Gale: okay.jpeg
>get invited for some bro to bro talk
>accept
>sit with him to talk
>****** writers immediately treat this as an invitation for gay sex when i was just being nice to him
It kind of went from annoying to funny to me. Like when shadowheart finally made it official he gave me this sad break up speech. Really gale? Are you joking? I had just finished telling him to stop being such a ****** when he wanted to look at the sky with me."

Game of the year!
Why are these the only dialogue choices:
  • Flirt
  • Flirt
  • Be an abrasive ******* for no reason
Did no one on that team ever heard of letting someone down gently? Or are these writers so convinced of their own genius that the only reason their players would turn down their characters is because they were role-playing sociophobes?
Back on release, people rightfully pointed this out and the wokesters ****** claimed it was our fault that every man was trying to get into our character's pants and that we may secretly be wanting it.

I specifically cited this exact example, mentioning how there's no way to just be pals with the Wizard. It's either pound town or nothing and that was terrible writing. Of course, the wokesters refused to listen to reason. Thankfully, that lead me to someone mentioning the no alphabets mod and that lead me to here. So, silver linings.


On the comment about the writers, around 10% of people played as the Origin characters, so their pissing contest about who had the "main character syndrome" the hardest was for nothing. But yeah, this is just the tip of the iceberg of the festering pustule of **** that is the writing in this game.
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I'd be curious to find out who Larian hired to fill in for the studio they lost during covid. The stark difference in tone between act 1 and act 3 could give someone whiplash. Finding out it those acts were likely worked on by different studios would make sense.
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Boontaker wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 10:43
I'd be curious to find out who Larian hired to fill in for the studio they lost during covid. The stark difference in tone between act 1 and act 3 could give someone whiplash. Finding out it those acts were likely worked on by different studios would make sense.
Fr, Ive played since EA and I dont remember noticing anything too PC in EA, there was basically no way you could imagine or expect the amount of faggotry in act 3...

Also, a bit related but not really, anyone else here just not care about lgbt people/negroes before like 2014-2016 and now completely dislike them? Because I used to not give a **** about them and now I just immediately dislike them in any media i see them. Like in Space marines 2 the main characters are a white guy, black guy and a asian guy. and before that I wouldnt notice this was blatant "representation"
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RhapsodicHotShot wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 11:23
Boontaker wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 10:43
I'd be curious to find out who Larian hired to fill in for the studio they lost during covid. The stark difference in tone between act 1 and act 3 could give someone whiplash. Finding out it those acts were likely worked on by different studios would make sense.
Fr, Ive played since EA and I dont remember noticing anything too PC in EA, there was basically no way you could imagine or expect the amount of faggotry in act 3...

Also, a bit related but not really, anyone else here just not care about lgbt people/negroes before like 2014-2016 and now completely dislike them? Because I used to not give a **** about them and now I just immediately dislike them in any media i see them. Like in Space marines 2 the main characters are a white guy, black guy and a asian guy. and before that I wouldnt notice this was blatant "representation"
About 2010 for me.
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RhapsodicHotShot wrote: ↑ September 16th, 2024, 11:23
Also, a bit related but not really, anyone else here just not care about lgbt people/negroes before like 2014-2016 and now completely dislike them? Because I used to not give a **** about them and now I just immediately dislike them in any media i see them. Like in Space marines 2 the main characters are a white guy, black guy and a asian guy. and before that I wouldnt notice this was blatant "representation"
Around 2012 in media the push for girlbosses started, around 2015 the push for all kinds of minorities began. Before those I didn't mind either as much, but after I can't stand these things anymore. In video games especially since they're supposed to be about escapism fantasy, not a reminder of real life social/political issues. :headbang: