List of woke and non-woke role-playing games

[Roguey]

So if you use the Speak with Animals spell, you can **** any animal you want? Well ****, why didn't you say so? It's not an issue that they're animals and are disgusting, it's only an intelligence issue. That's why stupid people never have sex, cuz it would be illegal. Phew

Intelligence is a tricky thing when it comes to consent

You can comprehend and communicate with animals. You are able to ask questions of and receive answers from animals, although the spell doesn’t make them any more friendly or cooperative than normal. Furthermore, wary and cunning animals are likely to be terse and evasive, while the more stupid ones make inane comments. If an animal is friendly toward you, it may do some favor or service for you.

I believe most animals would not be interested in consenting.

And then there's this weird scientific business which is absolutely legal https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/a-lis ... 980c2.html

[1998]

Disclaimer that I never played a single Witcher but am generally aware of the setting/gameplay. Anyway, a minor gay hunter is a little woke, but a major character being a pervert (bisexual) is major woke point. A minor crossdresser is a minor woke point. But as you notice the woke points keep adding up and that sucks (it's lame and gay). Mods should fix it.

Witcher 3 had a 100% white population, and a white straight PC, even after the next gen update. That alone should make it only minorly woke.

I remember seeing Steam reviews from lefties that they hate that there's only white people, in 13th century Poland

Even when I first played it right around release, so a bit before the SS woke brigade took over, I thought that was one of the strong points. The whole world is much more believable if everyone looks and talks similar and there are not 100 different biomes etc.

[A Chinese opium den]

This is literally the conservative strawman meme in action before my eyes. "Its not woke, there are only white people in the game. Its actually pretty trad if you ignore the gay people, ******, and female warriors!" Thank you for conserving tradition values against the hordes of libtards by conceding every point except having white people in 13th century poland.

[CSM-101]

I would rate The Witcher 3 as a little woke, not woke as ****. The gay hunter calls himself a freak and doesn't really even want to tell Geralt about it (he only does cuz Geralt asks him if he's a werewolf haha). The lesbian option for Ciri is literally just like one sentence that mentions that she prefers women and that's the end of it. For the Zerrikanians (who are white and sound Slavic btw) and the ********, what fantasy world exists that doesn't have some kind of racial prejudice going on? There is also that elf guy that crossdresses cuz he likes dressing up. It's literally just a costume to him, one of many. He dresses up in front of Geralt to give context as to why Geralt was looking for a woman but found a man instead.

If anyone doesn't like the gay hunter or the crossdressing elf, there are mods to remove them.

I don't remember any of that **** being in the books.

At least Yennifer wasn't Hispanic, Triss black, and Dandelion gay. I don't know what company would ever make an adaptation like that . I've never read the books, I just enjoy the game. There's likely a good bit of stuff that wasn't in the books that the games have

I never played the games longer than an hour because IMO they ******* suck as games. I own all three as well.

[1998]

This is literally the conservative strawman meme in action before my eyes. "Its not woke, there are only white people in the game. Its actually pretty trad if you ignore the gay people, ******, and female warriors!" Thank you for conserving tradition values against the hordes of libtards by conceding every point except having white people in 13th century poland.

It's about putting it in perspective. I am not saying Witcher 3 is ultra based, but calling it super woke and putting it one one level with **** like Outer Worlds just trivializes how woke those games actually are.

[SpellSword]

Does not matter if it's actually a guy that turned into a bear. If you have sex with him in bear form, it's still having sex with a ******* bear. Bestiality is having sex with beasts, animals. And having sex with a furry is pretty close to bestiality cuz you're attracted to the animal traits. If the image of a bear, even if it's actually a guy, turns you on, you're a zoophiliac

I believe that's too reductive.

[Kowe]

Does not matter if it's actually a guy that turned into a bear. If you have sex with him in bear form, it's still having sex with a ******* bear. Bestiality is having sex with beasts, animals. And having sex with a furry is pretty close to bestiality cuz you're attracted to the animal traits. If the image of a bear, even if it's actually a guy, turns you on, you're a zoophiliac

I believe that's too reductive.

How does "Speak with Animals" fit into this equation ?

This is a joke. Such interaction between species as in the image is abominable, on both sides.

[Darkestfantasy]

For a great non-woke rpg, I'd recommend Okami. No gay people, no black people, no ***** people, no women that are just as strong as men for some reason. Just some good ol' hacking and slashing with Japanese folklore monsters as the villains. It also has amazing music and a beautiful art style.

[Darkestfantasy]

Does not matter if it's actually a guy that turned into a bear. If you have sex with him in bear form, it's still having sex with a ******* bear. Bestiality is having sex with beasts, animals. And having sex with a furry is pretty close to bestiality cuz you're attracted to the animal traits. If the image of a bear, even if it's actually a guy, turns you on, you're a zoophiliac

I believe that's too reductive.

"Do you want to ****?" "Of course~!" Slutty dragon lizard thing

[Darkestfantasy]

And then there's this weird scientific business which is absolutely legal https://www.sfweekly.com/archives/a-lis ... 980c2.html

[BosanskiSeljak]

@twig

You need to get the little gems in here that aren't woke at all, let the newshits who've only played BG3 see some real RPGs.

Caves of Lore, Brigand: Oaxaca, Titan Outpost, Svarog's Dream just to name a few newer releases.

[twig]

Caves of Lore,

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. I don't think there's anything woke about it either? Titan Outpost probably belongs on the list too, but it's very low-budget.

But there's a problem with reading the list. @rusty_shackleford can you look into it?

[1998]

Caves of Lore,

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. I don't think there's anything woke about it either? Titan Outpost probably belongs on the list too, but it's very low-budget.

Nothing too extreme. You could create a ****** technically and the game acknowledges it at least once. There are some strong female companions but that's about it.

[sencestation]

Soulash 1 & 2 : non-woke

A tweet from the dev:
Steam status update: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app ... 7908407148

[rusty_shackleford]

Caves of Lore,

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. I don't think there's anything woke about it either? Titan Outpost probably belongs on the list too, but it's very low-budget.

But there's a problem with reading the list. @rusty_shackleford can you look into it?

fixed

[rusty_shackleford]

Tunguska: The Visitation is non-woke
viewtopic.php?p=114457-s-t-a-l-k-e-r-li ... ka#p114457

[twig]

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. [...]

Nothing too extreme. You could create a ****** technically and the game acknowledges it at least once.

Please elaborate.

[1998]

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. [...]

Nothing too extreme. You could create a ****** technically and the game acknowledges it at least once.

Please elaborate.

You can select a male avatar, male voices but assign female gender to him, and early in the game someone would refer to you as "daughter".

[twig]

You can select a male avatar, male voices but assign female gender to him, and early in the game someone would refer to you as "daughter".

With regard to the game acknowledging a ******, here's another hypothesis — the game doesn't track mismatched "gender" / portrait / voice at all, just refers to the player according to the "gender" exclusively. So there might not be special-casing of ******** at all.

The problem here is that there are pre-woke pre-****** games that didn't restrict portrait/voice selection because it isn't strictly necessary on the code's side. I dimly recall something about pre-Beamdog IE or NWN2 that had it as such in character creation. Of course, in the current year clown world the author's intent is more murky.

For reference, here's some timestamped youtube video showing the character creation screen.

[rusty_shackleford]

It seems like it's acting just as old RPGs used to, you could select a woman portrait but male gender and the game would treat you as male.

[Xenich]

- Witcher 3 woke as **** cause if you inquire you encounter a gay hunter who was kicked out cause he slept with the noble's son, and you can choose a lesbian option while playing as Ciri, and you have racial minorities in Zerrikanians, not to mention the ******** between dwarves, elves, and humans

I would rate The Witcher 3 as a little woke, not woke as ****. The gay hunter calls himself a freak and doesn't really even want to tell Geralt about it (he only does cuz Geralt asks him if he's a werewolf haha). The lesbian option for Ciri is literally just like one sentence that mentions that she prefers women and that's the end of it. For the Zerrikanians (who are white and sound Slavic btw) and the ********, what fantasy world exists that doesn't have some kind of racial prejudice going on? There is also that elf guy that crossdresses cuz he likes dressing up. It's literally just a costume to him, one of many. He dresses up in front of Geralt to give context as to why Geralt was looking for a woman but found a man instead.

If anyone doesn't like the gay hunter or the crossdressing elf, there are mods to remove them.

Rationalization. It is massively woke.

[Silvanus]

Nothing too extreme. You could create a ****** technically and the game acknowledges it at least once.

Please elaborate.

You can select a male avatar, male voices but assign female gender to him, and early in the game someone would refer to you as "daughter".

The Infinity Engine games do the same thing. Things like portraits voice options often aren't tagged in any way or filtered by gender, but I doubt the intention behind that is to let you make gender-benders.

[Xenich]

Please elaborate.

You can select a male avatar, male voices but assign female gender to him, and early in the game someone would refer to you as "daughter".

The Infinity Engine games do the same thing. Things like portraits voice options often aren't tagged in any way or filtered by gender, but I doubt the intention behind that is to let you make gender-benders.

Yeah, one has to do a bunch of mental gymnastics to try and suggest that there is an intent for support of it. Typical of ***/***** reasoning though, they always use "absence" of counter intent as evidence of direct support. (ie "you didn't disallow it, so it means you support it!" garbage reasoning, typical of the criminal/mentally ill)

Interesting thing is, if you were present during those times, you knew that it was never intended as such. Nobody sane back then would have suggested this. These weirdo's existed back then, but they were few and far between and everyone viewed them as crazy types. Society didn't embrace, approve or attend to them, they were mentally ill freaks.

[logincrash]

Cyberpunk 2077 is woke straight from the character creator with "Body type" instead of sex/gender and "feminine penises" and both male and female voice lines available for both sexes. There is a plot-critical pair of lesbians.

"Tyranny" is really woke. There's the previously covered issue of Kyros' gender.
Then there's the fact that a lot of high ranking members of the military are women. And I'm not talking about Sirin the Woman of Obviously Profound Magical Power, but about squad and legion leaders, positions which would require strength and size and mentality of men to reach.
The cultures of the Tiers (the place most of the game happens in) have matrilineal inheritance on every piece of property (from a house to a kingdom) while the men can only rule at sea.
But the biggest and the most insulting thing they've done is the deliberate disfigurement of the English language. They use phrases like "daughters and sons" and "women and men" multiple times. And every character says it like that, despite the fact that the Kyros' empire has the more traditional patrilineal inheritance laws. So, instead of making sure only the characters from the Tiers say those phrases to underline the cultural differences between the two nations, even the imperial characters speak like that. This leads me to believe that it was done to insert political messaging into the game.
I am also going to bring up the beastmen who are ruled by more physically powerful females. While examples of animal species where sexual dimorphism with the female being bigger and/or doing the hunting exist in the real world, I cannot take them in good faith when it comes to Tyranny. Both the devs (Obsidian) and the publisher (Paradox) are pozzed up to their ears. That, and the previously pointed out instances of injecting progressive politics without the care for consistency in world-building make me think the tribes of raging feminist ***** are a deliberate statement and/or a power fantasy idea of how our society should be.

Now, regarding Jagged Alliance 3. @Harthwain (if that even is your real name), I believe @Lord of Riva meant to say that "All the Mercs that are specialised in Mechanics are female." And "Evil characters [...] are all males." The comma after "female" confused me for a moment too.
I didn't want to go through over 550 posts to find your posts to reply to them, so I just wrote this here.

[1998]

You can select a male avatar, male voices but assign female gender to him, and early in the game someone would refer to you as "daughter".

With regard to the game acknowledging a ******, here's another hypothesis — the game doesn't track mismatched "gender" / portrait / voice at all, just refers to the player according to the "gender" exclusively. So there might not be special-casing of ******** at all.

The problem here is that there are pre-woke pre-****** games that didn't restrict portrait/voice selection because it isn't strictly necessary on the code's side. I dimly recall something about pre-Beamdog IE or NWN2 that had it as such in character creation. Of course, in the current year clown world the author's intent is more murky.

For reference, here's some timestamped youtube video showing the character creation screen.

That's why I said it's not too extreme, it felt a bit weird that the game acknowledged that only once afaik, very early, and it felt a bit out of place, almost like a warning in case you made a mistake.

[twig]

The Soulash dev definitely deserves more exposure.

[rusty_shackleford]

The Soulash dev definitely deserves more exposure.

viewtopic.php?t=2769-soulash-2-dev-is-b ... s-game-lol

[twig]

Does SKALD support portrait/voice modding?

[Brother Michael]

Caves of Lore,

Yeah, and also SKALD: Against the Black Priory. I don't think there's anything woke about it either? Titan Outpost probably belongs on the list too, but it's very low-budget.

Nothing too extreme. You could create a ****** technically and the game acknowledges it at least once. There are some strong female companions but that's about it.

There is also a lesbian relationship briefly in Firgol, which is unintentionally funny because it is part of a series of three seemingly mundane tasks that have something unnatural/horrifying in them, meaning the ***** are equivocated with the demonic bees and the flesh monster beneath the orchard.

[Xenich]

This is literally the conservative strawman meme in action before my eyes. "Its not woke, there are only white people in the game. Its actually pretty trad if you ignore the gay people, ******, and female warriors!" Thank you for conserving tradition values against the hordes of libtards by conceding every point except having white people in 13th century poland.

It's about putting it in perspective. I am not saying Witcher 3 is ultra based, but calling it super woke and putting it one one level with **** like Outer Worlds just trivializes how woke those games actually are.

Well, there comes a point when arguing over how strong **** smells becomes pointless when it is still ****.