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They have just released a combat preview video



It does look moderately interesting. They probably focus too much on presentation ("real" medieval instruments, authentic medieval painting techniques etc.) to pull off an interesting combat system, it seems quite ambitious.

Also, they are French Canadian. As such, they obviously already identified a totally legit, and real *** of the round table to include in their game (haven't checked that wiki page obv.).

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I really liked it until I saw black people in it, why can't they help themselves.
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Silence was Sir Cadoc's daughter in one of the later story cycles. She follows the long literary tradition of girls being dressed as boys to hide their identities or protect them in some way. There's never been any thought of these types of stories being transgender, gay, or whatever until the past 40 or so years.

Note the subversion of this in Wrath of the Righteous with Anevia being a boy disguised as a girl. In the past, this reversal would have only been used for comedic effect.
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The art style is seriously off-putting, it's like one of those Capcom PS2 titles like Viewtiful Joe if it was done with half the budget. Still, it's a shame there aren't more games based on Arthurian lore, especially Prince Valiant.

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I'll watch their video when they use someone who isn't ESL to sell their game.
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Acrux wrote: July 25th, 2024, 04:50
In the past, this reversal would have only been used for comedic effect.
The Chinese have been doing this for centuries to hide their first born sons from demons and they were quite serious about it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's still a thing since the Communists were unable to stomp out all of the peasant culture.
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1998 wrote: July 25th, 2024, 04:34


They have just released a combat preview video



It does look moderately interesting. They probably focus too much on presentation ("real" medieval instruments, authentic medieval painting techniques etc.) to pull off an interesting combat system, it seems quite ambitious.

Also, they are French Canadian. As such, they obviously already identified a totally legit, and real *** of the round table to include in their game (haven't checked that wiki page obv.).

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Translation of both comments:

****** One:
Diversity:

Are there going to be any LGBT characters? I’ve noticed that everything revolves around men who are knights in heterosexual contexts only.

Dev One:
Hi! As you can imagine, the majority of Arthurian tales describe heterosexual knights. That being said, our game was not produced without a lot of research, and we found a very interesting female knight.
Without wanting to spoil too much, I'll still share the Wikipedia page of Le Roman de Silence, one of the knights you'll find in the game.
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Even ChatGPT tells me that there were no homosexuals and rather hetero focussed romances.
That Wikipedia page is not about a ****** but rather a young woman who is raised as a boy to inherit her father’s lands, as women were barred from doing so. Disguised as a knight, Silence proves her valor and skill in various chivalric quests, while maintaining her true identity a secret. Eventually, her true gender is revealed, and she is ultimately celebrated for her bravery and honor, challenging traditional gender roles and expectations of the time. (ChatGPT summary)

Edit: Ah, saw the Le Nègre Éternel. Dropped.

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Finarfin wrote: July 25th, 2024, 12:01
1998 wrote: July 25th, 2024, 04:34


They have just released a combat preview video



It does look moderately interesting. They probably focus too much on presentation ("real" medieval instruments, authentic medieval painting techniques etc.) to pull off an interesting combat system, it seems quite ambitious.

Also, they are French Canadian. As such, they obviously already identified a totally legit, and real *** of the round table to include in their game (haven't checked that wiki page obv.).

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That being said, our game was not produced without a lot of research, and we found a very interesting female knight.

I am sure that's time well spent...

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I want to play this pretty badly. I love card games. I love Arthurian history. Here's to hoping there's no lame **** in it.
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I believe some clarifications are in order regarding the Arthurian Cycle and the Matter of Britain:

Are there black/non-euro knights in the Round Table?

Sort of? Sir Palomides, a high medieval addition to the cycle, was turned into a pagan babylonian knight by later authors, a representation of some sort of "honorable heathen" that in the end is converted to christianity. In truth, moorish/dark-skinned knights are more common in the Matter of France, because they are the enemies of the armies of Charlemagne and Roland.

What about women?

As far as I am aware (not familiar with the example that other user brought up earlier), there really aren't any outside extremely obscure sources. Women acting like knights is again more common in the Matter of France, specially Orlando Furioso, work that describes the adventures (among others) of Bradamante, a woman dressed as a man looking for her lover.

Will this game be woke/pozzed? Hard to say right now. I am leaning towards a "soft pozzed" sentence, exaggerating elements actually present in the Cycle to match modern sensibilities, but only time will tell.
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 13:15
I believe some clarifications are in order regarding the Arthurian Cycle and the Matter of Britain:

Are there black/non-euro knights in the Round Table?

Sort of? Sir Palomides, a high medieval addition to the cycle, was turned into a pagan babylonian knight by later authors, a representation of some sort of "honorable heathen" that in the end is converted to christianity. In truth, moorish/dark-skinned knights are more common in the Matter of France, because they are the enemies of the armies of Charlemagne and Roland.

What about women?

As far as I am aware (not familiar with the example that other user brought up earlier), there really aren't any outside extremely obscure sources. Women acting like knights is again more common in the Matter of France, specially Orlando Furioso, work that describes the adventures (among others) of Bradamante, a woman dressed as a man looking for her lover.

Will this game be woke/pozzed? Hard to say right now. I am leaning towards a "soft pozzed" sentence, exaggerating elements actually present in the Cycle to match modern sensibilities, but only time will tell.
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There is a black man kissing a white woman 50 seconds into the trailer video fellas. Pack it up, this ain't the one.
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1998 wrote: July 26th, 2024, 15:30
TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 13:15
I believe some clarifications are in order regarding the Arthurian Cycle and the Matter of Britain:

Are there black/non-euro knights in the Round Table?

Sort of? Sir Palomides, a high medieval addition to the cycle, was turned into a pagan babylonian knight by later authors, a representation of some sort of "honorable heathen" that in the end is converted to christianity. In truth, moorish/dark-skinned knights are more common in the Matter of France, because they are the enemies of the armies of Charlemagne and Roland.

What about women?

As far as I am aware (not familiar with the example that other user brought up earlier), there really aren't any outside extremely obscure sources. Women acting like knights is again more common in the Matter of France, specially Orlando Furioso, work that describes the adventures (among others) of Bradamante, a woman dressed as a man looking for her lover.

Will this game be woke/pozzed? Hard to say right now. I am leaning towards a "soft pozzed" sentence, exaggerating elements actually present in the Cycle to match modern sensibilities, but only time will tell.
What is your relation with the game?
None, I just saw the trailer today. I am however someone very interested in medieval romances and I have been running a tabletop campaign based around it for quite some time.
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1998 wrote: July 26th, 2024, 15:30
TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 13:15
I believe some clarifications are in order regarding the Arthurian Cycle and the Matter of Britain:

Are there black/non-euro knights in the Round Table?

Sort of? Sir Palomides, a high medieval addition to the cycle, was turned into a pagan babylonian knight by later authors, a representation of some sort of "honorable heathen" that in the end is converted to christianity. In truth, moorish/dark-skinned knights are more common in the Matter of France, because they are the enemies of the armies of Charlemagne and Roland.

What about women?

As far as I am aware (not familiar with the example that other user brought up earlier), there really aren't any outside extremely obscure sources. Women acting like knights is again more common in the Matter of France, specially Orlando Furioso, work that describes the adventures (among others) of Bradamante, a woman dressed as a man looking for her lover.

Will this game be woke/pozzed? Hard to say right now. I am leaning towards a "soft pozzed" sentence, exaggerating elements actually present in the Cycle to match modern sensibilities, but only time will tell.
What is your relation with the game?
I bet he's a dev lol
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 15:39
None, I just saw the trailer today. I am however someone very interested in medieval romances and I have been running a tabletop campaign based around it for quite some time.
Finarfin wrote: July 26th, 2024, 16:48
I bet he's a dev lol
If you are a dev please note I will buy your game if you take black people out of it, I'm not joking that's really all I ask of you.
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Is having a somewhat decent knowledge of medieval **** enough for you guys to go full ******? Really? If I was a dev, would I attempt to "shill" my game by saying that it's "soft pozzed" and that will exaggerate elements of the cycle to match modern sensibilities? Here of all places?
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:06
Is having a somewhat decent knowledge of medieval **** enough for you guys to go full ******? Really? If I was a dev, I would attempt to "shill" my game by saying that it's "soft pozzed" and that will exaggerate elements of the cycle to match modern sensibilities? Here of all places?
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:06
Is having a somewhat decent knowledge of medieval **** enough for you guys to go full ******? Really? If I was a dev, I would attempt to "shill" my game by saying that it's "soft pozzed" and that will exaggerate elements of the cycle to match modern sensibilities? Here of all places?
I just wanted to believe I could really ask someone to take ******* out of the game and they would listen. I'm a dreamer at heart :o
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A Chinese opium den wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:09
I just wanted to believe I could really ask someone to take ******* out of the game and they would listen. I'm a dreamer at heart :o
Fair. Sadly the devs are french so I'm not sure if they would listen.
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 13:15
I believe some clarifications are in order regarding the Arthurian Cycle and the Matter of Britain:
I also have a feeling that, being from France, this game will also be influenced by chansons de geste. For instance, the gameplay video mentions short adventures that sure sound like interleaved stories to me. The look and feel evoke that as well.

Fun fact: About 10 years ago, I had an idea about writing a book based on the Matter of France. It's relatively unknown in the English-speaking world - certainly less than the Matters of England or Rome - and seemed like an area that modern audience might be interested in (at least, the audiences I'd want to reach). I spent several years researching both the literature and Carolingian history. Then one day all interest just disappeared. Maybe I'll come back to it some day.
A Chinese opium den wrote: July 26th, 2024, 16:59
If you are a dev please note I will buy your game if you take black people out of it, I'm not joking that's really all I ask of you.
Agree. I watched the gameplay video and the mechanics looks really well done. It's just a shame he can't help himself from injecting this into his game.
TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 15:39
None, I just saw the trailer today. I am however someone very interested in medieval romances and I have been running a tabletop campaign based around it for quite some time.
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Fr*nchies are responsible for a significant number of games that star black female characters, so I won't hold my breathe.
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Acrux wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:25
Then one day all interest just disappeared. Maybe I'll come back to it some day.
Might be worth going back to it some day. In between edgy and nihilisitc modern adaptations or equally edgy historical fiction, there's very few (if any) works of fiction attempting to capture the essence of the medieval romances.
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:15
A Chinese opium den wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:09
I just wanted to believe I could really ask someone to take ******* out of the game and they would listen. I'm a dreamer at heart :o
Fair. Sadly the devs are french so I'm not sure if they would listen.
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TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:06
Is having a somewhat decent knowledge of medieval **** enough for you guys to go full ******? Really? If I was a dev, would I attempt to "shill" my game by saying that it's "soft pozzed" and that will exaggerate elements of the cycle to match modern sensibilities? Here of all places?
Yeah you would. But it's ok. We are a very inclusive community here, you can out yourself as being the dev, nobody will ban you for your (dev)-sins.
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I think a libtard dev coming here to shill a woke game seriously would be funny, actually.
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1998 wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:34
TheFumblingKnight wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:15
A Chinese opium den wrote: July 26th, 2024, 17:09
I just wanted to believe I could really ask someone to take ******* out of the game and they would listen. I'm a dreamer at heart :o
Fair. Sadly the devs are french so I'm not sure if they would listen.
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