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Element wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 12:48
WaterMage wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 12:31
Dragon Age Origins : Small MMO style action bar, with 14 abilities
You can drag the bar out to the end of the screen
Reinstalled the game just to take this screenshot.
Pardon the lack of the back of the head on my character. It was a modded haircut from the previous run with like two dozen mods installed.

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You can have 40 quickslots if you're playing in 1920x1080 resolution.

Also, I know I haven't played the game in a while, but this is ridiculous.
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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 09:11
Irenaeus wrote: ↑ June 25th, 2024, 23:36
Not only they don't care, they revel in it, and their bosses tell them to make really bad content, because the guys with the money investing want really bad content for propaganda purposes (shitlibs, ****, etc).
The thing is is that it is not even good propaganda.
I'd say it's good propaganda considering it's purpose: demoralizing the enemy (non-shitlibs, gentiles).
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logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 14:30
Also, I know I haven't played the game in a while, but this is ridiculous.
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Christ, now I feel old. I can't believe DA:O is at least 54 years old already!

Would love to be able to give DA:O another run. Only ever did one playthrough of it and Awakening.
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Jordy wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 17:30
logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 14:30
Also, I know I haven't played the game in a while, but this is ridiculous.
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Christ, now I feel old. I can't believe DA:O is at least 54 years old already!

Would love to be able to give DA:O another run. Only ever did one playthrough of it and Awakening.
DAO might pop up for the Junior Adventurer's Guild sometime.
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logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:19
Jordy wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 17:30
logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 14:30
Also, I know I haven't played the game in a while, but this is ridiculous.
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Christ, now I feel old. I can't believe DA:O is at least 54 years old already!

Would love to be able to give DA:O another run. Only ever did one playthrough of it and Awakening.
DAO might pop up for the Junior Adventurer's Guild sometime.
Sadly, I struggle to find the time to fit anything in but I think DA:O would certainly be a good addition to the Junior Adventurer's Guild.

I think I only played a demo of DA2 and didn't like it. Tried Inquisition in the last year or two and just couldn't get into it. I take it neither of these are recommended?
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 12:31
Being a mage in NWN1 = F1~F12 + CTRL F1~F12 + Shift F1~F12 totalizing 36 spells, each one with its spell slot
Dragon Age Origins : Small MMO style action bar, with 14 abilities
Dragon age 2 + Inquisition = 10 Ability action bar
Dragon age Veilguard = 3 abilities and minute long cooldown on it
Hey now! Game development is hurd!
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WaterMage wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 12:31

Dragon age 2 + Inquisition = 10 Ability action bar
DA2 was maybe 10, but DAI was limited to 8, wasn't it?
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Jordy wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:22
I think I only played a demo of DA2 and didn't like it. Tried Inquisition in the last year or two and just couldn't get into it. I take it neither of these are recommended?
Yeah, DA2 is pretty ****. DAI is **** AND full of progressive faggotry.
fkirenicus wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:40
DA2 was maybe 10, but DAI was limited to 8, wasn't it?
DA2 had a lot more than 10. It also had a slot bar the length of the screen.
DAI does have an 8 slot limit.
I don't have DA2 or DAI installed (and I'm not gonna bother pirating either of them just for this post), but here are the screenshots from the random nexusmods mods.

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WaterMage wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 12:31
Being a mage in NWN1 = F1~F12 + CTRL F1~F12 + Shift F1~F12 totalizing 36 spells, each one with its spell slot
Dragon Age Origins : Small MMO style action bar, with 14 abilities
Dragon age 2 + Inquisition = 10 Ability action bar
Dragon age Veilguard = 3 abilities and minute long cooldown on it
And there is NWN2 with the Giga-Chad [Quickcast] menu at just a single key type away.
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Irenaeus wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 14:43
I'd say it's good propaganda considering it's purpose: demoralizing the enemy (non-shitlibs, gentiles).
I will remain the optimist. The propaganda would be good demoralizing propaganda if there wasn't alternatives for people. There is a backlog of great entertainment that will last people for decades. A lot of younger people are playing older games and watching shows and movies made decades ago. There is also alternative media being made in East Asia that seems to be mostly (but not always) free of the ******** here in the West. Unless Larry "King of the *****" Fink and the elites were to forbid Eastern media from coming overseas and delete and destroy old media the demoralizing would work. So far they have not done that, yet.
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Jordy wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:22
logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:19
Jordy wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 17:30


Christ, now I feel old. I can't believe DA:O is at least 54 years old already!

Would love to be able to give DA:O another run. Only ever did one playthrough of it and Awakening.
DAO might pop up for the Junior Adventurer's Guild sometime.
I think I only played a demo of DA2 and didn't like it. Tried Inquisition in the last year or two and just couldn't get into it. I take it neither of these are recommended?
DA2 was a massive decline back then and still isn't a good game. I would not be totally against replaying it, just treat it as a weird, little curiosity from that area before things went to total ****.

DAI there is nothing redeemable in there whatsoever, even ignoring the woke stuff. I tried to play it semi-recently, I think I managed to slog through 12h or so.
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RangerBoo wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 00:47
Irenaeus wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 14:43
I'd say it's good propaganda considering it's purpose: demoralizing the enemy (non-shitlibs, gentiles).
I will remain the optimist. The propaganda would be good demoralizing propaganda if there wasn't alternatives for people. There is a backlog of great entertainment that will last people for decades. A lot of younger people are playing older games and watching shows and movies made decades ago. T
That's kinda my take as well. Coming to realize "entertainment" is not really that important has freed me of the rage when they release something stupid like Dragon Age or The Acolyte.
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logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:56
Yeah, DA2 is pretty ****. DAI is **** AND full of progressive faggotry.
you're saying this as if DA2 wasn't the previous leader among videogames having progressive faggotry in them. Anders suddenly going from a funny guy in Awakening to a raging homo in DA2, and then raping your butt for picking a wrong dialogue answer was such an egregious thing he instantly became a meme.
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wndrbr wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:06
then raping your butt for picking a wrong dialogue answer
I haven't played DA2. Is this is meant literally or is just being used as an expression?
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Acrux wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:07
wndrbr wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:06
then raping your butt for picking a wrong dialogue answer
I haven't played DA2. Is this is meant literally or is just being used as an expression?
the game had this friendship/rivalry system where you party members would react differently depending on your decisions and the way you treat them during the dialogues. So if you wanted to stay friends with someone, you had to agree with them, and pick the nice dialogue options. Anders was a romancible companion, and if you weren't paying attention to the dialogue icons (romance dialogues were marked with a heart icon) you could've romanced him by accident.

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wndrbr wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:18
Acrux wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:07
wndrbr wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:06
then raping your butt for picking a wrong dialogue answer
I haven't played DA2. Is this is meant literally or is just being used as an expression?
the game had this friendship/rivalry system where you party members would react differently depending on your decisions and the way you treat them during the dialogues. So if you wanted to stay friends with someone, you had to agree with them, and pick the nice dialogue options. Anders was a romancible companion, and if you weren't paying attention to the dialogue icons (romance dialogues were marked with a heart icon) you could've romanced him by accident.

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wndrbr wrote: ↑ June 27th, 2024, 01:06
logincrash wrote: ↑ June 26th, 2024, 18:56
Yeah, DA2 is pretty ****. DAI is **** AND full of progressive faggotry.
you're saying this as if DA2 wasn't the previous leader among videogames having progressive faggotry in them.
Sure, but DAI is tenfold of that.
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$5 for the better Dragon Age.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dragon_age_origins

Considering playing it again. Looking for suggestions regarding the most interesting party makeup. When I first played it, I felt forced to bring one of each class due to the abilities that act like keys and are mutually exclusive.

Considering a 3 mage + 1 tank party since the spells seemed more powerful and interesting than the other abilities. Can you even get a party of 4 mages?
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J1M wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 00:59
$5 for the better Dragon Age.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dragon_age_origins

Considering playing it again. Looking for suggestions regarding the most interesting party makeup. When I first played it, I felt forced to bring one of each class due to the abilities that act like keys and are mutually exclusive.

Considering a 3 mage + 1 tank party since the spells seemed more powerful and interesting than the other abilities. Can you even get a party of 4 mages?
Get the mod that lets you have an extra party spot for the dog.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:00
J1M wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 00:59
$5 for the better Dragon Age.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dragon_age_origins

Considering playing it again. Looking for suggestions regarding the most interesting party makeup. When I first played it, I felt forced to bring one of each class due to the abilities that act like keys and are mutually exclusive.

Considering a 3 mage + 1 tank party since the spells seemed more powerful and interesting than the other abilities. Can you even get a party of 4 mages?
Get the mod that lets you have an extra party spot for the dog.
Is there a mod that gives the dog a full talent tree like the Xbox version? So that it can properly replace the bipedal warrior options? I'm not keen on mods that would make the game easier.
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J1M wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:01
rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:00
J1M wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 00:59
$5 for the better Dragon Age.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dragon_age_origins

Considering playing it again. Looking for suggestions regarding the most interesting party makeup. When I first played it, I felt forced to bring one of each class due to the abilities that act like keys and are mutually exclusive.

Considering a 3 mage + 1 tank party since the spells seemed more powerful and interesting than the other abilities. Can you even get a party of 4 mages?
Get the mod that lets you have an extra party spot for the dog.
Is there a mod that gives the dog a full talent tree like the Xbox version? So that it can properly replace the bipedal warrior options? I'm not keen on mods that would make the game easier.
Yes, actually.

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/5418
It requires Combat Tweaks

Also:
Broke: Skipping the Fade
Bespoke: Skipping the Prelude
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Acrux wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:40
Broke: Skipping the Fade
I like the Fade, never understood why it was so hated
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:41
Acrux wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:40
Broke: Skipping the Fade
I like the Fade, never understood why it was so hated
Wasn't even aware it was hated. Fantasy realm where anything can happen that hands out permanent stat bonuses. Was BSN upset that you can't romance the Fade?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:41
Acrux wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:40
Broke: Skipping the Fade
I like the Fade, never understood why it was so hated
Probably because it was confusing (lower-end machines display this quite badly; I know from experience) and added quite a lot of time to play through all of it. Using Skip the Fade makes it possible to run through Broken Circle in about 1,5-2 hours, if one wants to. Maybe even less. I used StF for many years until I realized it is so much more rewarding actually playing through it and collecting all those stats boosts manually. Don't think I will use it again.
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I have a mod that lets people skip the deep road and some other areas. Here:

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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:41
Acrux wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:40
Broke: Skipping the Fade
I like the Fade, never understood why it was so hated
People get addicted to the party banter and dialogue with NPCs. Take that away from them for half an hour and they seethe.
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What about a mod that lets you freely respecialize your character in Dragon Age Origins? Withers is my favorite BG3 character.
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J1M wrote: ↑ June 29th, 2024, 00:41
What about a mod that lets you freely respecialize your character in Dragon Age Origins? Withers is my favorite BG3 character.
that's called cheating
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:41
Acrux wrote: ↑ June 28th, 2024, 01:40
Broke: Skipping the Fade
I like the Fade, never understood why it was so hated
It's fine to go through once, but it's going to play the exact same way on a replay which is pretty lousy for an RPG.