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Is VTMB or FNV more overrated?
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Is VTMB or FNV more overrated?
They're both incredibly overrated games, but which one moreso?
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New Vegas, but only because it's newer and more people have played it. Both are aggressively mediocre games.
New Vegas definitely. I tried to replay it recently because I barely remembered it and didn't understand why it got so much praise. It's pretty meh.
VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.
VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.
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RPGs with bad combat have a soft-cap of 7/10.GhostCow wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 00:08New Vegas definitely. I tried to replay it recently because I barely remembered it and didn't understand why it got so much praise. It's pretty meh.
VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.
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I think I just voted New Vegas because Sawyer's been making tweets like these lately:
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ October 28th, 2024, 07:36Mediocre or bad games can still have parts that are good.
Combat in VTMB isn't bad though. It's not anything special, but it's definitely not bad. Disciplines are fun to use, gunplay is standard, and melee is very low effort, but still serviceable.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 00:11RPGs with bad combat have a soft-cap of 7/10.GhostCow wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 00:08New Vegas definitely. I tried to replay it recently because I barely remembered it and didn't understand why it got so much praise. It's pretty meh.
VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.
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VTMB has hot goth Malkavian girls.
New Vegas has that one town where the Legion is crucifying a bunch of dorks.
Tough call.
New Vegas has that one town where the Legion is crucifying a bunch of dorks.
Tough call.
GhostCow wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 00:08VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.
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Fallout Tactics > FNV
Ok, a lot of bugfixing and a little more content.Shillitron wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 02:03GhostCow wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 00:08VTMB can't be overrated because it's a 9/10 game. A little bugfixing and slightly more content would have made it a 10/10.![]()
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I refuse to believe you are on this website and have never heard of Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines. Maybe you just forgot the acronym?maidenhaver wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 02:43Probably New Vegas. Never played the other one, never even heard of it.
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I was making a point, which was nobody knows what that game is.
How could it be overrated?
How could it be overrated?
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I like both, but FNV is definitely more overrated. At the end of the day, it's still just a better Fallout 3, and Fallout 3 is ***.
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FNV has more votes, which proves that VTMB is in fact more overrated.
All I will say to Bloodlines lovers is to never even dare look at the intense retardation that is the TTRPG, especially today. If you thought modern D&D became a preachy pile of ****, oooh man.
It's best to limit VtM knowledge to just that game.
It's best to limit VtM knowledge to just that game.
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I disagree. The TTRPG may be... uneven to say the least, and certainly cringe and edgy at times, but it has plenty of genuinely good stuff, and plenty of cool nooks and crannies. What you say is only really true for gWoD and V5 (and its associated games, like W5 and H5), but despite their insistence otherwise, the new post-WW game(s) is/are fundamentally different settings from the Bloodlines universe.Goth-Girl-Supremacy wrote: ↑ August 31st, 2023, 13:25All I will say to Bloodlines lovers is to never even dare look at the intense retardation that is the TTRPG, especially today. If you thought modern D&D became a preachy pile of ****, oooh man.
It's best to limit VtM knowledge to just that game.
One of the best things about Bloodlines is that it actually does a really good job at depicting some parts of V2/VR oWoD; and the V20 (etc.) edition(s) are mostly just collections of rules more than anything else. I am still mad we never got any H20 before everything went to hell.
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Goth-Girl-Supremacy wrote: ↑ August 31st, 2023, 13:25All I will say to Bloodlines lovers is to never even dare look at the intense retardation that is the TTRPG, especially today. If you thought modern D&D became a preachy pile of ****, oooh man.
It's best to limit VtM knowledge to just that game.

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Yeah, it got.. bad. And that's without even going into the menstrual magic and the international incident over the chechnyan homo-holocaust.aweigh wrote: ↑ August 31st, 2023, 13:36https://postimages.org/]Goth-Girl-Supremacy wrote: ↑ August 31st, 2023, 13:25All I will say to Bloodlines lovers is to never even dare look at the intense retardation that is the TTRPG, especially today. If you thought modern D&D became a preachy pile of ****, oooh man.
It's best to limit VtM knowledge to just that game.
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"Every game I haven't heard of sucks!"maidenhaver wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 02:43Probably New Vegas. Never played the other one, never even heard of it.
Why are you putting this obviously true statement in quotation marks, like it's supposed to be ironic?Atlantico wrote: ↑ August 31st, 2023, 15:27"Every game I haven't heard of sucks!"maidenhaver wrote: ↑ August 30th, 2023, 02:43Probably New Vegas. Never played the other one, never even heard of it.



