Dragon Age™: The Veilguard is a Return To Form

[KOS-MOS]

I just want more adventures in the DA setting and to pal around with my loyal companions.

your loyal companions being a bunch of ******* and ******, wonderful. Just admit that you're are a giant ******.

[Envergence]

I just want more adventures in the DA setting and to pal around with my loyal companions.

your loyal companions being a bunch of ******* and ******, wonderful. Just admit that you're are a giant ******.

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

[rusty_shackleford]

I just want more adventures in the DA setting and to pal around with my loyal companions.

Check out Spiders games if you haven't. They tend to not be as polished as Bioware titles but fill a similar niche. I liked Technomancer the most.

[UltraFan123]

The issue is this "modernization" trend that I began to notice back when Disney bought Star Wars; the delusional idea that the series didn't existed before the current owner had it, hence why the ones currently handling the IP only acknowledge the preexisting lore in order to purposely distance itself as much as possible from it. They do different stuff just for the sake of being different, regardless if the change is good or not.

[KOS-MOS]

I just want more adventures in the DA setting and to pal around with my loyal companions.

your loyal companions being a bunch of ******* and ******, wonderful. Just admit that you're are a giant ******.

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

[rusty_shackleford]

your loyal companions being a bunch of ******* and ******, wonderful. Just admit that you're are a giant ******.

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

I assume he was referring to companions from origins.

[DDC]

Whatever happened to just not playing bad games?

In a time when only bad games are made, one must get his enjoyment by playing the bad games that can be laughed at.

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

[KOS-MOS]

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

I assume he was referring to companions from origins.

I miss them too, which is why I plan to replay Origins on the exact same day Veilguard is released.

[Envergence]

your loyal companions being a bunch of ******* and ******, wonderful. Just admit that you're are a giant ******.

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

I don't know because it isn't out yet. I'm personally invested in the series which is why I'm not simply ignoring the game altogether, like I typically would for most woke garbage. I'd like to see for myself what the game will be like, instead of having to rely exclusively on the reviews of shills, simps, or biased haters. If it's all bad, I want to determine that through my own experience rather than having it determined for me.

[Reichspepe]

Everyone on this forum is a giant ****** because of this or that; get new material.

It's far more logical to pirate it than to buy it and refund it later.

I will be as constructive in my report as I can. I may love the series, but that did not keep me from being critical of Inquisition. I anticipate more of the same for Veilguard, though I'm still vaguely hopeful there are enough good qualities to make up for the inevitable bad, with mods also picking up the slack. Mods made Inquisition a much more enjoyable experience--likewise with BG3, but if the ****** aspects of Veilguard turn out to be the kinds of things mods can't fix, it would be a lot harder to turn a blind eye to it all (e.g. if the devs' agenda turns out to be interwoven with the story, mods can only do so much. Compare that to altering the disproportionate ethnicity ratios which would be a simple cosmetic mod, though one was sadly never made for Inquisition). It could also be so bad that no one would be willing to put forth the effort of making based mods for it in the first place, lol.

No, it's conclusively established that if you play this game you are a giant ******. And not just for free. Even if someone paid you to play the game, you would be a giant ****** for taking the money. No need to engage in mental gymnastics to rationalize and cope. Just go replay Origins if you like Dragon Age:

This picture is so "current year", it's actually crazy

[KOS-MOS]

Are you on your period or something? Calm down.

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

I don't know because it isn't out yet. I'm personally invested in the series which is why I'm not simply ignoring the game altogether, like I typically would for most woke garbage. I'd like to see for myself what the game will be like, instead of having to rely exclusively on the reviews of shills, simps, or biased haters. If it's all bad, I want to determine that through my own experience rather than having it determined for me.

I understand you, I am myself an old huge fan of Dragon Age. But Veilguard is as legit as any fanfiction.

[J1M]

Whatever happened to just not playing bad games?

In a time when only bad games are made, one must get his enjoyment by playing the bad games that can be laughed at.

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

Back catalogue from the golden era gets smaller every time someone plays one. Your estimate of how many good games are being released today is pure hyperbole. List some specifics. I have a feeling that will expose the delta between our definitions of the word 'good'.

[rusty_shackleford]

In a time when only bad games are made, one must get his enjoyment by playing the bad games that can be laughed at.

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

Back catalogue from the golden era gets smaller every time someone plays one. Your estimate of how many good games are being released today is pure hyperbole. List some specifics. I have a feeling that will expose the delta between our definitions of the word 'good'.

We get one or two good games a year unless it's an exceptionally dry year. Had Archolos not too long ago, for example.

[UltraFan123]

I am perfectly calm and I'm only stating facts here. Go on, tell me what is so interesting about this game. I'm curious.

I don't know because it isn't out yet. I'm personally invested in the series which is why I'm not simply ignoring the game altogether, like I typically would for most woke garbage. I'd like to see for myself what the game will be like, instead of having to rely exclusively on the reviews of shills, simps, or biased haters. If it's all bad, I want to determine that through my own experience rather than having it determined for me.

I understand you, I am myself an old huge fan of Dragon Age. But Veilguard is as legit as any fanfiction.

There are Dragon Age fanfics that are infinitely better than this game I would wager. kek

[MC_Sea]

I am tempted for the first time in my gaming history to buy it, set my alarm clock to 1 hour (just in case) and refund it alongside a nice appropriate review.

Pretty sure Steam removes the review then as well, or at the very least its not counted towards the overall rating...

Nope, it keeps the review on the store page but puts some small orange text stating "Product Refunded" at the top of the review. The reason for this is because there are some broken, buggy, and abandoned online games that have a legitimate reason for being refunded in a (usually) 2 hour window of playtime. Another less common reason for this is due to some games being scams or cryptominers which would be much harder to detect without refunded reviews. Helldivers is the most recent/well-known incident that shows that refunded reviews still negatively affect a game's rating.

[Norfleet]

The whole cast of Failguard is ugly / bland as ****, is there any fanarts about them now they've been revealed ? Because I don't see any.

Surest sign of a flop, when the characters manage to break Rule 34.

[Rand]

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

Back catalogue from the golden era gets smaller every time someone plays one. Your estimate of how many good games are being released today is pure hyperbole. List some specifics. I have a feeling that will expose the delta between our definitions of the word 'good'.

We get one or two good games a year unless it's an exceptionally dry year. Had The Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos not too long ago, for example.

They're working on The Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos 2.0!
An improved version in every way, with some added areas.
If you go to the The Chronicles of Myrtana: Archolos Discord (https://discord.gg/A8EaYGJ4nx), you can see a lot of the graphical upgrades they've already done in the motde-showroom channel.

If you just want the highlights of what's being worked on:

[What is TCoM 2.0].
Update 2.0 is the biggest and last update we intend to release, except for possible balance fixes and bug fixes.
It will contain a lot of brand new content, new quests, new items, new random events, changes to the game world map, changes related to gameplay balance, bug fixes or other exploits of the mechanics of this old game.
There will be an optional Hardcore Mode, which stands on the base of TCoM 2.0, where those dissatisfied with the difficulty level of the base game will be able to experience the much more challenging Archolos Island, where we will not limit ourselves to only changing the stats of enemies.
Even though this all sounds wonderful, I would advise you well not to expect 2.0 to be an add-on on the scale of G2:NotR. The core storyline remains the same.

[KOS-MOS]

I don't know because it isn't out yet. I'm personally invested in the series which is why I'm not simply ignoring the game altogether, like I typically would for most woke garbage. I'd like to see for myself what the game will be like, instead of having to rely exclusively on the reviews of shills, simps, or biased haters. If it's all bad, I want to determine that through my own experience rather than having it determined for me.

I understand you, I am myself an old huge fan of Dragon Age. But Veilguard is as legit as any fanfiction.

There are Dragon Age fanfics that are infinitely better than this game I would wager. kek

I agree. These freaks can't even write a good fanfic, this is pathetic

[DDC]

In a time when only bad games are made, one must get his enjoyment by playing the bad games that can be laughed at.

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

Back catalogue from the golden era gets smaller every time someone plays one. Your estimate of how many good games are being released today is pure hyperbole. List some specifics. I have a feeling that will expose the delta between our definitions of the word 'good'.

This is just my Steam wishlist of unbought games releasing in the past 2 months, none of which involve running around with a party of **** goblinas and pozzed out *******, and all of which will be more fun than Greywardens of the Galaxy:

Black Myth: Wukong
Tactical Breach Wizards
Fairy Tail: Dungeons
9 Bit Armies
Shadow of the Ninja
Gori
Showgun Showdown
Space Marine 2
I am your Beast
Deathsprint 66
Hollowbody
UFO 50
Beyond Shadowgate
Echo Point Nova
The Nameless: slay dragon
Iron Meat
Lost in Fantaland
Axon TD
Silence of the Siren
Tarnished Blood
Diceomancer
Guild Saga: Vanished Worlds
Metaphor Refantazio
Drova
Arizona Sunshine Remake
Awaken - Astral Blade
Romancing Saga 2

That's two months. There are 500+ well-reviewed games on my wishlist. Probably another 500+ excellent games I own on steam but haven't played. At least 30 gamepass games. Another mess of games on Epic. Nintendo averages 1-2 good first party games per year. Console backlogs.

Obviously, the specific games anyone else is interested in may well differ a lot from my tastes, but the volume and quality is there for pretty much any genre if you know where to look. The overaching point though is that nobody needs to play a game overflowing with aids-filled cum-guzzling faggotry for lack of other games. They are immersing themselves in the aids-filled cum-guzzling faggotry because they want to.

[Zothique]

This type of psychosis should be studied, I think.

Even a brainrotted guy like this David Gaider can't stop himself from recognizing that this new DA game is total garbage, yet every time he recognizes such a thing he also feels the need to insult the "chuds" who also agree with him that this game looks like ****. lmfao

That image is genuinely disgusting. I refuse to believe this wasn't made as some sort of "**** you" to gamers. Nobody can be that dense.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

There is a back catalogue of good games spanning decades, and there are also more good games currently being made than one would have time to play even if unemployed and logging 12+ hour days. If you artificially constrain yourself to only newly released games from "AAA" publishers, you will be forced to play bad games, so don't do that.

Back catalogue from the golden era gets smaller every time someone plays one. Your estimate of how many good games are being released today is pure hyperbole. List some specifics. I have a feeling that will expose the delta between our definitions of the word 'good'.

This is just my Steam wishlist of unbought games releasing in the past 2 months, none of which involve running around with a party of **** goblinas and pozzed out *******, and all of which will be more fun than Greywardens of the Galaxy:

Black Myth: Wukong
Tactical Breach Wizards
Fairy Tail: Dungeons
9 Bit Armies
Shadow of the Ninja
Gori
Showgun Showdown
Space Marine 2
I am your Beast
Deathsprint 66
Hollowbody
UFO 50
Beyond Shadowgate
Echo Point Nova
The Nameless: slay dragon
Iron Meat
Lost in Fantaland
Axon TD
Silence of the Siren
Tarnished Blood
Diceomancer
Guild Saga: Vanished Worlds
Metaphor Refantazio
Drova
Arizona Sunshine Remake
Awaken - Astral Blade
Romancing Saga 2

That's two months. There are 500+ well-reviewed games on my wishlist. Probably another 500+ excellent games I own on steam but haven't played. At least 30 gamepass games. Another mess of games on Epic. Nintendo averages 1-2 good first party games per year. Console backlogs.

Obviously, the specific games anyone else is interested in may well differ a lot from my tastes, but the volume and quality is there for pretty much any genre if you know where to look. The overaching point though is that nobody needs to play a game overflowing with aids-filled cum-guzzling faggotry for lack of other games. They are immersing themselves in the aids-filled cum-guzzling faggotry because they want to.

I get what you’re saying but I do think the quality of games nowadays has drastically decrease over the years. There is no doubt good games that comes out every year but you gotta really search for them.

[W1llus]

This type of psychosis should be studied, I think.

Even a brainrotted guy like this David Gaider can't stop himself from recognizing that this new DA game is total garbage, yet every time he recognizes such a thing he also feels the need to insult the "chuds" who also agree with him that this game looks like ****. lmfao

That image is genuinely disgusting. I refuse to believe this wasn't made as some sort of "**** you" to gamers. Nobody can be that dense.

That is unequivocally revolting. I know people gave Inquisition a lot of **** back in the day for really setting into motion some of the trends we see now with games but for what it was it was genuinely a solid product that tried and to me personally felt like a good single player MMO with actual world state changes in the maps that mattered. This """"game"""" is not a product of effort or passion but as a genuine "**** you" not just to dragon age fans but gamers in general.

[KOS-MOS]

This type of psychosis should be studied, I think.

Even a brainrotted guy like this David Gaider can't stop himself from recognizing that this new DA game is total garbage, yet every time he recognizes such a thing he also feels the need to insult the "chuds" who also agree with him that this game looks like ****. lmfao

That image is genuinely disgusting. I refuse to believe this wasn't made as some sort of "**** you" to gamers. Nobody can be that dense.

That is unequivocally revolting. I know people gave Inquisition a lot of **** back in the day for really setting into motion some of the trends we see now with games but for what it was it was genuinely a solid product that tried and to me personally felt like a good single player MMO with actual world state changes in the maps that mattered. This """"game"""" is not a product of effort or passion but as a genuine "**** you" not just to dragon age fans but gamers in general.

Inquisition was a really bad game, the writing was terrible, the gameplay was dull, the choices felt meaningless, most of the companions were forgettable, the side quests were pointless and dull, the final part of the game was rushed (final boss fight was hilariously bad), the story was riddled with plot holes, enemies posed no challenge even on Nightmare difficulty, and the world felt empty, making exploration tedious and boring, and the musics were also forgettable.

[cleansingcarnage]

I've been lurking this forum for a bit. The past few days, I've developed a morbid fascination with this game's release, and I've come across a few things I thought I would share with you guys in the chance you haven't seen it yet.

First of all, apart from the fact that the general aesthetic and branding of the game should be unappealing to anyone who isn't a deranged ***** like the "people" who made it, this is the most damning thing I've seen about it yet (from some gaming rag):

Now, Patrick Weekes (Lead Writer at BioWare on the Dragon Age franchise since David Gaider's departure) has provided a more detailed explanation of this choice, as spotted by Twitter user Hrungr.

Blood Magic is unlikely (editor's note: even in future games for player characters) because we've shifted it from a power boost to really being the key to a lot of nasty stuff we aren't interested in having the heroes do. I think it can be ethically neutral if you only use your own blood, but after seeing it used as a required part of mind control and demon binding in Dragon Age 2 and Dragon Age Inquisition, it's just not a road we want the hero to walk right now.

The importance of that obviously isn't that anyone should give a **** about blood magic, but that the general design philosophy in play here precludes the "heroes" from doing things that aren't "ethically neutral", because the devs have decided it's a bridge too far in a series where you could previously trade the souls of young children to demons or own slaves.

Second, you've probably heard that you can no longer control companions at all in the game, that it's cloned God of War 2018 combat, and that the level design is completely on rails linear in the style of Mass Effect missions. This obviously limits exploration, but what's even worse is that each companion has their own unique environmental exploration ability that will be necessary to unlock various off-limits areas in the mission that are hard coded to them. So, whereas a pillar of RPG design (in my opinion) has traditionally been that you use planning and foresight to build your characters and party in a way that anticipates environment exploration, and distributing abilities and resources accordingly so that you're able to deal with things organically as they come up, now there's no choice or planning at all in what exploration does still exist.

They've made it completely arbitrary and meaningless. You no longer bring your skill monkeys at your discretion in order to pick a lock or break down a door, you will just run into things that only one character can open and are made to backtrack with the "right" character in your party if they don't happen to already be there.

And last, in case you decide you are repulsed by the obviously repulsive characters, and choose not to romance any, they will instead romance each other AND involve you in it by asking you for romantic advice. The known example is the couple of Taash and Harding, so you can look forward to booting up a dark fantasy RPG only to be asked to help an androgynous african Qunari **** a ginger dwarf with an adam's apple. This "game" is a gay **** simulator.

As much as I hate to admit it, I'm following the release with some amount of interest because, even beyond how gay and brown it is, I think it will be like a case study in anti-game design. Everything that I see about it is somehow worse than the last, and the amount of insane game design decisions they appear to have made is nothing less than fascinating.

[logincrash]

There are Dragon Age fanfics that are infinitely better than this game I would wager. kek

There are only three books that I couldn't tear myself away from and would read even in bed 'till 3 in the morning. One is The Count of Monte Cristo, another is Dune, and the last one is a Dragon Age fanfic.

[jebacdrkac]

That image is genuinely disgusting. I refuse to believe this wasn't made as some sort of "**** you" to gamers. Nobody can be that dense.

That is unequivocally revolting. I know people gave Inquisition a lot of **** back in the day for really setting into motion some of the trends we see now with games but for what it was it was genuinely a solid product that tried and to me personally felt like a good single player MMO with actual world state changes in the maps that mattered. This """"game"""" is not a product of effort or passion but as a genuine "**** you" not just to dragon age fans but gamers in general.

Inquisition was a really bad game, the writing was terrible, the gameplay was dull, the choices felt meaningless, most of the companions were forgettable, the side quests were pointless and dull, the final part of the game was rushed (final boss fight was hilariously bad), the story was riddled with plot holes, enemies posed no challenge even on Nightmare difficulty, and the world felt empty, making exploration tedious and boring, and the musics were also forgettable.

This game will be 3x worse in every regard, the only instance were I can see it being better (still obviously doubtful) is music and difficulty of the game.
Wouldn't call Inquisition a really bad game but yeah its extremely mediocre, I even replayed copy paste DA2 once or twice while I uninstalled Inquisition as soon as I finished it

[1998]

That is unequivocally revolting. I know people gave Inquisition a lot of **** back in the day for really setting into motion some of the trends we see now with games but for what it was it was genuinely a solid product that tried and to me personally felt like a good single player MMO with actual world state changes in the maps that mattered. This """"game"""" is not a product of effort or passion but as a genuine "**** you" not just to dragon age fans but gamers in general.

Inquisition was a really bad game, the writing was terrible, the gameplay was dull, the choices felt meaningless, most of the companions were forgettable, the side quests were pointless and dull, the final part of the game was rushed (final boss fight was hilariously bad), the story was riddled with plot holes, enemies posed no challenge even on Nightmare difficulty, and the world felt empty, making exploration tedious and boring, and the musics were also forgettable.

This game will be 3x worse in every regard, the only instance were I can see it being better (still obviously doubtful) is music and difficulty of the game.
Wouldn't call Inquisition a really bad game but yeah its extremely mediocre, I even replayed copy paste DA2 once or twice while I uninstalled Inquisition as soon as I finished it

There is no way there will be any challenge in that game. That would go directly against DEI design principles.

[UltraFan123]

Inquisition was a really bad game, the writing was terrible, the gameplay was dull, the choices felt meaningless, most of the companions were forgettable, the side quests were pointless and dull, the final part of the game was rushed (final boss fight was hilariously bad), the story was riddled with plot holes, enemies posed no challenge even on Nightmare difficulty, and the world felt empty, making exploration tedious and boring, and the musics were also forgettable.

This game will be 3x worse in every regard, the only instance were I can see it being better (still obviously doubtful) is music and difficulty of the game.
Wouldn't call Inquisition a really bad game but yeah its extremely mediocre, I even replayed copy paste DA2 once or twice while I uninstalled Inquisition as soon as I finished it

There is no way there will be any challenge in that game. That would go directly against DEI design principles.

Exactly, modern slop is made for the game jurnos and their ilk, so the "difficulty" of this game will be below baby mode.

[WaterMage]

[jebacdrkac]

Left sucks as well