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Tweed wrote: March 31st, 2024, 00:53
Xenich wrote: March 31st, 2024, 00:13
Anon wrote: March 31st, 2024, 00:07


Stop saying so much truth, you're making me sad
It was an awesome time to play them, though I don't miss the load times when running certain systems from a floppy drive. I think this is why I love the emulators, especially eXo's work as you not only get to play the game without all the headache of setting up sound card interrupts, memory size, etc... but having all the different versions of sound cards is great as some of them were pretty pricey at the time.
I dunno, there was a feeling suspense,sticking a floppy into the C64 and waiting two minutes for the game to load up.

Also, while Exo is set up to run everything it's not always the most optimal (for me), knowing how to mess with the settings will help a lot.
I think all the setting files are easily found so you can tweak them to your own specifications if you like. It is a very simplistic implementation (he uses batch files for most of the processes).
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Tweed wrote: March 30th, 2024, 22:42
Watser wrote: March 30th, 2024, 21:32
What about Dungeon Master? Significant historical importance and still considered the best in its genre (together with Chaos Strikes Back).
If most people here haven't played it I don't see why not, probably need to take some polls on these things. I never played CSB myself.
It's similar to Wasteland in that regard, as you also suggested. Great games, easy to pick up, and I don't think a lot of people have actually played them. Include the first three Wizardry games in that category as well.

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Anvil of Dawn
Demon's Winter
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Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
Stonekeep
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Wizardry 1
Including the classics with the more obscure stuff would hopefully improve participation if a sizable number of users haven't played them.
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Watser wrote: March 31st, 2024, 10:18
Tweed wrote: March 30th, 2024, 22:42
Watser wrote: March 30th, 2024, 21:32
What about Dungeon Master? Significant historical importance and still considered the best in its genre (together with Chaos Strikes Back).
If most people here haven't played it I don't see why not, probably need to take some polls on these things. I never played CSB myself.
It's similar to Wasteland in that regard, as you also suggested. Great games, easy to pick up, and I don't think a lot of people have actually played them. Include the first three Wizardry games in that category as well.

Do anyone have any objections to:

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Anvil of Dawn
Demon's Winter
Dungeon Master
Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
Stonekeep
Wasteland 1
Wizardry 1
Including the classics with the more obscure stuff would hopefully improve participation if a sizable number of users haven't played them.

If Wizardry is to be attempted perhaps it would be better to wait until the new remake leaves early access. Unless I'm mistaken it will allow for identical play of the original game with a few more graphical bells and whistles.


If you are looking for more classics to put on that list is there any interest in playing Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss and/or Ultima Underworld II: Labyrinth of Worlds?

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Mostly DOS, but there are some Amiga in there as well.

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SpellSword wrote: March 31st, 2024, 11:10
Watser wrote: March 31st, 2024, 10:18
Tweed wrote: March 30th, 2024, 22:42


If most people here haven't played it I don't see why not, probably need to take some polls on these things. I never played CSB myself.
It's similar to Wasteland in that regard, as you also suggested. Great games, easy to pick up, and I don't think a lot of people have actually played them. Include the first three Wizardry games in that category as well.

Do anyone have any objections to:

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Anvil of Dawn
Demon's Winter
Dungeon Master
Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
Stonekeep
Wasteland 1
Wizardry 1
Including the classics with the more obscure stuff would hopefully improve participation if a sizable number of users haven't played them.
If Wizardry is to be attempted perhaps it would be better to wait until the new remake leaves early access. Unless I'm mistaken it will allow for identical play of the original game with a few more graphical bells and whistles.


If you are looking for more classics to put on that list is there any interest in playing Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss and/or Ultima Underworld II: Labyrinth of Worlds?

That "remake" is garbage.

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aweigh wrote: March 31st, 2024, 15:13
That "remake" is garbage.
That is pretty disappointing. I've been reading the game's forum and your right about the current state of the remake. There are a lot of strange changes being reported like rounding up the amount of gold you aquire and apparently no way to turn off some of the new features. I was hoping to be able to play Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord with just a few extra sounds but it looks like the old console versions will remain the best option for that.
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This will be the list used for picking April's game, if anyone wants to contest a game(or has a late addition) post now
Legends of Amberland: The Forgotten Crown
Dragon Wars
Realms of Antiquity
Exile III
The Aethra Chronicles, Volume One: Celystra's Bane
Daemonsgate
Prophecy of the Shadow
Crystals of Arborea
Challenge of the Five Realms
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Anvil of Dawn
Demon's Winter
Dungeon Master
Fallout 1.5: Resurrection
Stonekeep
Wasteland 1
Wizardry 1
Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
Dungeon Master II: The Legend of Skullkeep
Druid: Daemons of the Mind
Elvira: Mistress of the Dark
Ravenloft: Strahd's Possession
The Legacy: Realm of Terror
Sentinel Worlds I: Future Magic
Abandoned Places: A Time for Heroes
Black Crypt
Shadowlands
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If AutoDuel is valid does that mean Roadwars 2000/Europa is valid too?
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Tweed wrote: April 1st, 2024, 02:25
If AutoDuel is valid does that mean Roadwars 2000/Europa is valid too?
Is AutoDuel not an RPG? I didn't check any of these, I'm relying on you guys.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 1st, 2024, 02:26
Tweed wrote: April 1st, 2024, 02:25
If AutoDuel is valid does that mean Roadwars 2000/Europa is valid too?
Is AutoDuel not an RPG? I didn't check any of these, I'm relying on you guys.
It is,
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rusty_shackleford wrote: April 1st, 2024, 02:26
Tweed wrote: April 1st, 2024, 02:25
If AutoDuel is valid does that mean Roadwars 2000/Europa is valid too?
Is AutoDuel not an RPG? I didn't check any of these, I'm relying on you guys.
Its a hybrid. Maybe not ideal due to its driving/action play combined with an RPG development system in play.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/1296/autoduel/

I picked it because it looked interesting, though that style of play may turn people off.

I think Black Crypt is Amiga only, but setup of this is pretty simple.

https://www.mobygames.com/game/9528/black-crypt/

To get it: (I think you already know, but WHDloads are pre-config roms with all the settings configured similar to DOSbox)

https://whdownload.com/

Easiest way to play them is via Retroarch using the PBUAE core through retroarch:

https://www.retroarch.com/index.php?page=platforms

For reference on the core: https://docs.libretro.com/library/puae/

Though if you are purest and want more control in an emulator (though it takes some amiga knowledge to tweak, but the WHDloads pretty much take care of a lot of that)

https://fs-uae.net/

Ultimately though, the eXoDos approach is the easiest as it is all one download, one click and play. (ie pass on the amiga if its too much hassle, but there are some very good cRPGs in Amiga, and in many ways, the best version of the game, similar to AppleIIe versions often being better than the DOS depending on game).

Ok, been playing with both emulators for Amiga, Retroarch is very good in its ease of use and if you know how to configure it, tons of options for how you like to play, but... be prepared for save state problems, as you have already mentioned in a previous thread.

FS-UAE is very good as well, more power if you like to tweak the Amiga models, add memory, etc... and more specifically it is closer to true emulation, so you have all of the normal limitations that the game would impose on saving and the like (not sure if it allows tools outside of that as it concerns save states).

So if you want to add Amiga into the mix more frequently, it will be low hassle, and easy setup. Here is a screen.


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May is for SunDog: Frozen Legacy.
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Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
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SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18
Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
Yes they are as good. If you're a fan of icewind dale, huge chances you'll love BG 1 and 2. I don't find many people who liked one and hated the other.
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SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18
Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
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1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:26
SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18
Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
Beamdog has ****** up big time indeed but they haven't changed the core gameplay as far as I can remember and you can mostly ignore the new "content" beamdog has done.
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Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:59
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:26
SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18


I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
Beamdog has ****** up big time indeed but they haven't changed the core gameplay as far as I can remember and you can mostly ignore the new "content" beamdog has done.
Wow, but they did. Especially for the BG1. It's not even close to the original experience.
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1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:02
Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:59
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:26


I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
Beamdog has ****** up big time indeed but they haven't changed the core gameplay as far as I can remember and you can mostly ignore the new "content" beamdog has done.
Wow, but they did. Especially for the BG1. It's not even close to the original experience.
Yeah I said this but I now remember they've done some changes to core gameplay indeed, though I wouldn't say it's gotten too far from the original experience. For somebody who has been playing for 15 years already maybe, but for a first timer? I'd say it'd be mostly the quality of life changes (like being able to store 80 ammo per slot instead of 20) that would be felt. I think beamdog has also nerfed archers hugely in BG2 right? Yeah in that case this can't be denied, no reason for them to having done that.

But I've seen a lot of people way more experienced than me thinking the same as you, so I respect your opinion.
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Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:14
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:02
Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:59


Beamdog has ****** up big time indeed but they haven't changed the core gameplay as far as I can remember and you can mostly ignore the new "content" beamdog has done.
Wow, but they did. Especially for the BG1. It's not even close to the original experience.
Yeah I said this but I now remember they've done some changes to core gameplay indeed, though I wouldn't say it's gotten too far from the original experience. For somebody who has been playing for 15 years already maybe, but for a first timer? I'd say it'd be mostly the quality of life changes (like being able to store 80 ammo per slot instead of 20) that would be felt.

But I've seen a lot of people way more experienced than me thinking the same as you, so I respect your opinion.
Still, it's very different. BG1 is the ultimate low-level adventure, but Beamdog added lots of new items, spells etc. to it that move the whole thing in a totally different direction.
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1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:26
SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18
Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
But you can only play suffer through Siege of Dragonspear with the Enhanced Edition.
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1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:25
Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:14
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:02


Wow, but they did. Especially for the BG1. It's not even close to the original experience.
Yeah I said this but I now remember they've done some changes to core gameplay indeed, though I wouldn't say it's gotten too far from the original experience. For somebody who has been playing for 15 years already maybe, but for a first timer? I'd say it'd be mostly the quality of life changes (like being able to store 80 ammo per slot instead of 20) that would be felt.

But I've seen a lot of people way more experienced than me thinking the same as you, so I respect your opinion.
Still, it's very different. BG1 is the ultimate low-level adventure, but Beamdog added lots of new items, spells etc. to it that move the whole thing in a totally different direction.
Does that differ much to what Beamdog has done to IWD?

My opinion is, if he's liked Beamdog's IWD (I assume he's played IWD:EE), he'll most likely also like Beamdog's BG1.
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Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:42
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:25
Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:14


Yeah I said this but I now remember they've done some changes to core gameplay indeed, though I wouldn't say it's gotten too far from the original experience. For somebody who has been playing for 15 years already maybe, but for a first timer? I'd say it'd be mostly the quality of life changes (like being able to store 80 ammo per slot instead of 20) that would be felt.

But I've seen a lot of people way more experienced than me thinking the same as you, so I respect your opinion.
Still, it's very different. BG1 is the ultimate low-level adventure, but Beamdog added lots of new items, spells etc. to it that move the whole thing in a totally different direction.
Does that differ much to what Beamdog has done to IWD?

My opinion is, if he's liked Beamdog's IWD (I assume he's played IWD:EE), he'll most likely also like Beamdog's BG1.
Probably. But he should first play the original. How would he even know which NPCs are the ******** ones? They btw added romances to them...
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SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18
Anon wrote: April 29th, 2024, 18:38
I suggest adding original Baldur's Gate games as well, 1 and 2 are such a ******* epic story. I suppose a lot of people here played them already, but such is the case with many of the other games displayed here, so I think they'd be a great addition. Plus they have basically infinite replay value.
I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?
They actually aren't the same, except superficially by both using the same engine and modified AD&D rules.

There are also relatively big differences between BG1 and 2.
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1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:44
Anon wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:42
1998 wrote: May 17th, 2024, 16:25


Still, it's very different. BG1 is the ultimate low-level adventure, but Beamdog added lots of new items, spells etc. to it that move the whole thing in a totally different direction.
Does that differ much to what Beamdog has done to IWD?

My opinion is, if he's liked Beamdog's IWD (I assume he's played IWD:EE), he'll most likely also like Beamdog's BG1.
Probably. But he should first play the original. How would he even know which NPCs are the ******** ones? They btw added romances to them...
They are the only ones who force dialogue AFAIK and remain talkative, and the feeling of them is very different compared to the others. There's the wiki to make sure of course, if he doesn't mind using. https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Companions

But yes playing the original ones is a good recommendation
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SpellSword wrote: May 17th, 2024, 15:18


I have heard a lot about them being classics but haven't yet found the time to run either of them. Are they as good as Icewind Dale?

@Oyster Sauce if Baldur's Gate gets added to next month's Junior Adventurer's Guild poll it'll have my vote.
I assume by that we are talking about actual Baldur's Gate and not whatever the **** Beamdog has done with it?
But you can only play suffer through Siege of Dragonspear with the Enhanced Edition.
Siege of dragonspear is entirely optional btw, you can skip straight to BG2. I've imported my character from BG1EE into BG2EE multiple times. I don't even have SoD bought.
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Petition to add BG SoD to next month's adventure league.
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I would have tolerated quite a bit woke nonsense just to play a few new IE encounters.

But of course that beast (SoD's writer) had to push it way beyond anything acceptable.

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wndrbr wrote: May 18th, 2024, 02:47
Petition to add BG SoD to next month's adventure league.
Is that the game where Minsc's attack line is "Yeah, it's actually about ethics in games' journalism"?
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How about Dungeon Keeper? (the original, maybe w/KeeperFx)
It's got RPG elements. It's got Molyneux in his innocent prime. It's got charm.
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January 2024 - Tunnels & Trolls: Crusaders of KhazanImage1990Players embark on a journey to defeat a powerful necromancer in this fantasy RPG.
February 2024 - Hexx: Heresy of the Wizard-1994A wizard-themed action RPG where players must challenge dark forces and explore dangerous lands.
March 2024 - StarwindImage2022Total conversion mod that brings the Morrowind engine into the universe of Star Wars: The Old Republic and takes place during the events of Knights of the Old Republic.
April 2024 - Legends of Amberland: The Forgotten Crown-2019A retro-inspired RPG set in a classic fantasy world, filled with exploration and adventure.
May 2024 - Crystals of ArboreaImage1990Players lead a party to defeat the dark god Tarbos and bring peace to Arborea.
June 2024 - Ravenloft: Strahd's PossessionImage1994In this gothic horror RPG, players are trapped in the cursed land of Barovia and must face the vampire lord Strahd in order to escape.
July 2024 - Dark Sun: Shattered Lands-1993Set in a post-apocalyptic desert world, players must gather allies and stop the tyrannical sorcerer-kings in this tactical RPG.




Junior Adventurer's Guild History
GameBadgeRelease YearPlot Synopsis
April 2024 - Alpha ProtocolImage2010A spy-themed action RPG where players take on the role of agent Michael Thorton and must navigate a world of conspiracy and betrayal.
May 2024 - Knights of the Old RepublicImage2003Set in the Star Wars universe, this RPG allows players to shape the fate of the galaxy as they navigate the conflict between the Jedi and the Sith.
June 2024 - Vampire: The Masquerade - BloodlinesImage2004A modern vampire RPG set in the World of Darkness, where players navigate vampire society and face supernatural dangers.
July 2024 - Of Orcs and MenImage2012An action RPG where players lead an orc and goblin alliance to overthrow a tyrannical human empire.
August 2024 - Two WorldsImage2007In this open-world fantasy RPG, players must explore a vast world, seeking to rescue their kidnapped sister while battling powerful foes and forming alliances.
September 2024 - Icewind DaleImage2000A tactical RPG set in the Dungeons & Dragons universe, where players lead a group of adventurers through the icy tundra of the Spine of the World to uncover an ancient evil.
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I suggest Jade Empire. On PC.
Main Story: 15 Hours
Main + Sides: 23 Hours
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