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Mass Effect series.
I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
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Mass Effect 1.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Any group gaining influence over a couple of non-phaged Krogan leaders is a viable threat and better than another dragon invades the realm story.Vergil wrote: ↑ March 31st, 2024, 17:15They're more likely to pull some other super deadly secret species who will destroy everything with vaguely defined super weapons than anything foreshadowed in a previous game.
Curing the genophage being portrayed as anything but the 100% correct path goes against the writer's shitlib worldview so that's definitely out.J1M wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 22:15Any group gaining influence over a couple of non-phaged Krogan leaders is a viable threat and better than another dragon invades the realm story.Vergil wrote: ↑ March 31st, 2024, 17:15They're more likely to pull some other super deadly secret species who will destroy everything with vaguely defined super weapons than anything foreshadowed in a previous game.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
I've been tried playing it but it also has that kinda dialogue where I can't see what I'm going to say and it turns me offVergil wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01Mass Effect 1.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
Try 3 where Shepard has entire conversations with 0 player inputAnon wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 23:23I've been tried playing it but it also has that kinda dialogue where I can't see what I'm going to say and it turns me offVergil wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01Mass Effect 1.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
Yeah I ****** the blue alien and then shot her in the head. What of it?
So we walked down the hill into all those fears and maybes, all that sorrow, nothing certain in our lives except the frozen earth beneath our feet.
It's not as bad as later entries but if the dialog system is enough of a barrier to enjoy the story enough to put up with kind of archaic gameplay ME2 has better action gameplay and everything outside of the main plot is still decent.Anon wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 23:23I've been tried playing it but it also has that kinda dialogue where I can't see what I'm going to say and it turns me offVergil wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01Mass Effect 1.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Cool genophage fact: the genophage reduces the average amount of children a krogan woman has annually from 1000 to 1. Truly the greatest injustice anyone has ever faced.
You have to understand krogan are basically space ******* so they probably discipline their kids with all sorts of ghetto lobster1 shenanigans that result in death.Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 23:37Cool genophage fact: the genophage reduces the average amount of children a krogan woman has annually from 1000 to 1. Truly the greatest injustice anyone has ever faced.
1A baby who's been 'disciplined' with hot water (immersed in a pot of boiling water, for example) by someone with poor parenting skills attributed to an economically under-privileged upbringing.
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I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
ME1 ...Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
and 2
and 3.
*****, just play the whole series.
and remember to practice your destroying talents while playing.
But if you are dead set to play just one game, go for me2.
Don't forget the suffocation, compromised suit (while in space...) and brain death beforehand too lol..Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 07:59Very cool that you can just come back to life after being obliterated for a few days/weeks/months if you spend a few billion space dollars and nobody has ever done it before
I could maybe understand if the suit somehow properly preserved him and he was laid damaged and dying for a while and they essentially just "resuscitated" him, but fully dying from suffocation and a compromised suit WHILE in space, then burning up in the atmosphere and plummeting to earth in a suit that will 100% not be designed to deal with such temps and impact, and being DEAD for TWO YEARS, well... that's just silly.
Mass effect 1 has a lot of reused plots and characters from KOTOR when I think about it.
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ME aren't really stand-alone games. Playing just one game would be like watching just one season of a TV show.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
Either play all 3, or skip the entire series.
To go with the TV analogy Id say it's more like the walking dead. After a golden first season behind the scenes drama, greed, and shuffling people around the series takes a steep decline after that point.wndrbr wrote: ↑ April 21st, 2024, 05:50ME aren't really stand-alone games. Playing just one game would be like watching just one season of a TV show.Nammu Archag wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 20:01I've never played ME which one should I play (I do not give a **** about playing the whole series so just tell me the best one)
Either play all 3, or skip the entire series.
I'm just stating the facts.
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The Asari are the biggest scumbags in the galaxy.
They can live for a thousand years. They are also extremely adept at space magic without the need for any implants. They also have a form of limited telepathy. They have the ultimate weapon in the biological arms race of life - the ability to reproduce at will with any other species with the offspring always being an Asari.
They were genetically engineered and outfitted by Protheans to defeat the Reapers. While humans had to reverse engineer a tiny Protean observational outpost on Mars, the Asari have huge archives of important Prothean knowledge directly on their homeworld. They use that cache of Prothean tech to stay ahead of other species. They push for the galactic laws to heavily regulate the hoarding of Prothean tech.
And yet, despite all of those biological advances, the Asari spend hundreds of years playing mercs and strippers around the galaxy. Despite being positioned as the vanquishers of the Reapers, the Asari managed to lose their homeworld while the humans and the Turians still fought for theirs.
They are worthless hypocrites.
The only good Asari is a dead Asari.
They can live for a thousand years. They are also extremely adept at space magic without the need for any implants. They also have a form of limited telepathy. They have the ultimate weapon in the biological arms race of life - the ability to reproduce at will with any other species with the offspring always being an Asari.
They were genetically engineered and outfitted by Protheans to defeat the Reapers. While humans had to reverse engineer a tiny Protean observational outpost on Mars, the Asari have huge archives of important Prothean knowledge directly on their homeworld. They use that cache of Prothean tech to stay ahead of other species. They push for the galactic laws to heavily regulate the hoarding of Prothean tech.
And yet, despite all of those biological advances, the Asari spend hundreds of years playing mercs and strippers around the galaxy. Despite being positioned as the vanquishers of the Reapers, the Asari managed to lose their homeworld while the humans and the Turians still fought for theirs.
They are worthless hypocrites.
The only good Asari is a dead Asari.
"Oh, it all makes sense now, brother."
You're forgetting a key detail that explains away all of this. They are female.logincrash wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 09:41The Asari are the biggest scumbags in the galaxy.
They can live for a thousand years. They are also extremely adept at space magic without the need for any implants. They also have a form of limited telepathy. They have the ultimate weapon in the biological arms race of life - the ability to reproduce at will with any other species with the offspring always being an Asari.
They were genetically engineered and outfitted by Protheans to defeat the Reapers. While humans had to reverse engineer a tiny Protean observational outpost on Mars, the Asari have huge archives of important Prothean knowledge directly on their homeworld. They use that cache of Prothean tech to stay ahead of other species. They push for the galactic laws to heavily regulate the hoarding of Prothean tech.
And yet, despite all of those biological advances, the Asari spend hundreds of years playing mercs and strippers around the galaxy. Despite being positioned as the vanquishers of the Reapers, the Asari managed to lose their homeworld while the humans and the Turians still fought for theirs.
They are worthless hypocrites.
The only good Asari is a dead Asari.
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
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You forgot to add that they knew about the reapers for centuries and kept it from everyone else so nobody was prepared for it.logincrash wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 09:41The Asari are the biggest scumbags in the galaxy.
They can live for a thousand years. They are also extremely adept at space magic without the need for any implants. They also have a form of limited telepathy. They have the ultimate weapon in the biological arms race of life - the ability to reproduce at will with any other species with the offspring always being an Asari.
They were genetically engineered and outfitted by Protheans to defeat the Reapers. While humans had to reverse engineer a tiny Protean observational outpost on Mars, the Asari have huge archives of important Prothean knowledge directly on their homeworld. They use that cache of Prothean tech to stay ahead of other species. They push for the galactic laws to heavily regulate the hoarding of Prothean tech.
And yet, despite all of those biological advances, the Asari spend hundreds of years playing mercs and strippers around the galaxy. Despite being positioned as the vanquishers of the Reapers, the Asari managed to lose their homeworld while the humans and the Turians still fought for theirs.
They are worthless hypocrites.
The only good Asari is a dead Asari.
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Yeah, that was a crucial point in my "created to fight the Reapers, but still ****** it up" argument. I just got so worked up writing this, that my main gripe with them slipped past and remained unwritten.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 10:34You forgot to add that they knew about the reapers for centuries and kept it from everyone else so nobody was prepared for it.
"Oh, it all makes sense now, brother."
I'd like to see the concept of a long-lived fantasy race being limited to only about a hundred years of memory explored more often. Things that happened before that would be like you trying to remember things from when you were 2 years old.
Might resolve some of the issues presented by the Asari if this was applied to them.
Might resolve some of the issues presented by the Asari if this was applied to them.
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Would be a good reason for keeping detailed records of their entire life.J1M wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 13:57I'd like to see the concept of a long-lived fantasy race being limited to only about a hundred years of memory explored more often. Things that happened before that would be like you trying to remember things from when you were 2 years old.
Might resolve some of the issues presented by the Asari if this was applied to them.
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Yes, and introduce plot hooks around the theft/destruction/falsification of such records.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 14:00Would be a good reason for keeping detailed records of their entire life.J1M wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 13:57I'd like to see the concept of a long-lived fantasy race being limited to only about a hundred years of memory explored more often. Things that happened before that would be like you trying to remember things from when you were 2 years old.
Might resolve some of the issues presented by the Asari if this was applied to them.
Beat me to it. Another case of Mass Effect having sometimes incredibly good, as well as based, writingVergil wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 10:33You're forgetting a key detail that explains away all of this. They are female.logincrash wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 09:41The Asari are the biggest scumbags in the galaxy.
They can live for a thousand years. They are also extremely adept at space magic without the need for any implants. They also have a form of limited telepathy. They have the ultimate weapon in the biological arms race of life - the ability to reproduce at will with any other species with the offspring always being an Asari.
They were genetically engineered and outfitted by Protheans to defeat the Reapers. While humans had to reverse engineer a tiny Protean observational outpost on Mars, the Asari have huge archives of important Prothean knowledge directly on their homeworld. They use that cache of Prothean tech to stay ahead of other species. They push for the galactic laws to heavily regulate the hoarding of Prothean tech.
And yet, despite all of those biological advances, the Asari spend hundreds of years playing mercs and strippers around the galaxy. Despite being positioned as the vanquishers of the Reapers, the Asari managed to lose their homeworld while the humans and the Turians still fought for theirs.
They are worthless hypocrites.
The only good Asari is a dead Asari.
I've got fond memories of ME. Played 1 and 2 for six months straight during an unemployment stint back when 2 came out. Wasn't the most productive time of my life, but very enjoyable overall.
Best ME for me is 2 though. Even with the rewritten ending, three just falls flat on its face. Love the atmosphere and all up to the point where you crash the Illusive Mans base, but yhea... the whole crucible ******** was such an arse pull - people can't even work on one ******* project in a coherent fashion, as demonstrated by MEs dropped plots for how to deal with the Reapers and such - and those ***** want you to believe that several species successfully worked out one hyper advanced technological McGuffin while on the brink of annihilation and then passed the knowledge to the next? How ******* removed from reality were those writers?
Indoctrination Theory is canon for me, because it's the only sensible thing in that context and if they had done that, with Shepard awakening at the final hour just to be told there's no crucible and he's been working for the reapers the whole game and then, in the final moment, getting the option to somehow destroy them and save everyone - now that would have been a great ******* ending.
But yhea... still one of my favourite games, despite the flaws.
And the only good Asari is one bent over the table.
Best ME for me is 2 though. Even with the rewritten ending, three just falls flat on its face. Love the atmosphere and all up to the point where you crash the Illusive Mans base, but yhea... the whole crucible ******** was such an arse pull - people can't even work on one ******* project in a coherent fashion, as demonstrated by MEs dropped plots for how to deal with the Reapers and such - and those ***** want you to believe that several species successfully worked out one hyper advanced technological McGuffin while on the brink of annihilation and then passed the knowledge to the next? How ******* removed from reality were those writers?
Indoctrination Theory is canon for me, because it's the only sensible thing in that context and if they had done that, with Shepard awakening at the final hour just to be told there's no crucible and he's been working for the reapers the whole game and then, in the final moment, getting the option to somehow destroy them and save everyone - now that would have been a great ******* ending.
But yhea... still one of my favourite games, despite the flaws.
And the only good Asari is one bent over the table.
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I had tons of fun with the first game, even managed 100% at one point - I recall many of the things I had to do for that being incredibly boring though. The second has much better combat, and more distinct classes, but the writing easily peaked in the first, degraded in the second, and fell off a cliff in the third. I'd recommend anybody curious to play the first game and go onto the second if they really liked it. The third can safely be skipped unless you're a superfan.
That's not actually true Vergil. If Wrex died and the female one also croaks the game goes out of it's way to show you what a horrible idea curing the genophage would be.Vergil wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 23:14Curing the genophage being portrayed as anything but the 100% correct path goes against the writer's shitlib worldview so that's definitely out.
Because it puts Trayshawn the krogan in charge and the game both shows and tells you that he has exactly two braincells: One dedicated to smashing things and the other for "Muh Dik!".
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The genophage being considered very bad is funny if you know anything about turtles. Many turtle species lay hundreds to nearly a thousand eggs a season because the survival rate to adulthood is so low.
I have to assume the writers knew about this and it was based on it?
I have to assume the writers knew about this and it was based on it?
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That's not showing curing the genophage is bad it's showing that killing Wrex and failing to save the female has negative consequences.SoLong wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 15:58That's not actually true Vergil. If Wrex died and the female one also croaks the game goes out of it's way to show you what a horrible idea curing the genophage would be.Vergil wrote: ↑ April 20th, 2024, 23:14Curing the genophage being portrayed as anything but the 100% correct path goes against the writer's shitlib worldview so that's definitely out.
Because it Trayshawn the krogan in charge and the game both shows and tells you that he has exactly two braincells: One dedicated to smashing things and the other for "Muh Dik!".
They clearly based them on turtles and I THINK the original idea was to show the dangers of science/playing God by uplifting a species without consideration for how their biology is engineered around specific environmental pressures that might cause an issue if they're taken out of tbay environment. The Krogan are basically like when settlers would bring in predators that didn't have any competition in the new area and devastated the ecosystem but on a galactic scale.rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ August 16th, 2024, 16:09The genophage being considered very bad is funny if you know anything about turtles. Many turtle species lay hundreds to nearly a thousand eggs a season because the survival rate to adulthood is so low.
I have to assume the writers knew about this and it was based on it?
I'm just stating the facts.
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?
Question is are you going to gargle the truth or swallow?