It is funny how inconsequential he really ends up being. Very easy to just not interact with him at all after his ***** little try hard intro fighting the goblins. Not even present when you raid the grove. Probably hiding somewhere eating watermelon or something. Lazy nig.
The only companion('origin') consequential to the story is Shadowheart.
What about Durge?
Didn't play as Durge so I don't know. I only did one playthrough, might do another when the actually finished edition released. IIRC he shows up dead in the bhaal temple if you don't.
Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.
Instead of bursting into the topic, reading some comments would have spared you a lot of false anger and the whole backlash you have to face now
Eh I don't take it personally.
It is not about taking it personally, it's a matter of culture. You are clearly able to communicate normally and politely and the first impression matters the most. Why destroy your image right in the first place? I understand being ***** is a sensitive topic and being rejected by other people may hurt you, but you will never find common ground by leaving frustrated comments. Everybody will acting defensive against such behavior.
Anyways, not all heterosexual people can't or want to have sex. You can have a kid as a homosexual couple through adoption or the medical route. As long as nobody gets hurt, then who cares? There are bad apples in both straight and non-straight folks, it's not a black and white thing. You can't impregnate an infertile woman.
Riddle me this: Forgotten Realms has magic, yes? And said magic can do many things such as change someone's physical form or behavior, yes?
So… Why are there transsexuals or gays? You yourself said this is something that people don't choose to be but are forced to be.
The only reason someone would see them as something that should exist is if it's from a point of view of someone from our world. Let's do a thought experiment where there's a world that has no cure or treatment for schizophrenia, and schizophrenics have their own communities and identity. But in our world, we have drugs that work as effective treatments for schizophrenia and such movements never began therefore there are no communities of schizophrenics who demand representation and so forth. How would they view our society's treatment towards schizophrenics?
Being *****/gay is not the same as shizophrenic. I'm ***** and I've been healed from my mental health issues, still *****. I mostly just chill and don't want to bother with people who won't like me being *****. They don't have to accept it, but I don't have to hang around them. But I didn't choose being *****. I just fell in love with a woman, which just happened. And some people have been violent against me because of that. That's why I generally avoid people who don't like ***** people. Sexuality/gender develops as a part of identity in your brain.
Also not every ***** person in Faerun can change their appearance just like that, for example a human farmer is way different than high elf wizard. Being *****/***** is not about appearance, it's about your identity.
So… Why are there transsexuals or gays? You yourself said this is something that people don't choose to be but are forced to be.
Well, it makes sense that gays would still exist, since gays don't have any particular desire to alter themselves, they just like what they like.
Transsexuals, well, there's already that magic item that straight up changes your sex. They could just get one of those. Then you become the real deal instead of some mutilated freak.
You can transition in real life without becoming a mutilated freak, tho.
Where is your Father/Husband and why are they letting you on the internet unsupervised?
I hope that question was sarcastic.
It's not sarcastic. We have rules:
Women may create an account with their husband's permission, but may not post except in the designated women's forum. Topics are limited to:
homeschooling
recipe exchange
cleaning tips
Christmas cookie exchange/Secret Santa
Bible study (must be led by a man)
posts exhorting each other to be better wives
Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.
Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.
But don't you find it weird that you can make your game as ***** as you want, but if we make our game straight, journos writing 100s of articles branding us as bigots? Why do you think that is?
I do find it weird since I started to think about it more.
Instead of bursting into the topic, reading some comments would have spared you a lot of false anger and the whole backlash you have to face now
Eh I don't take it personally.
It is not about taking it personally, it's a matter of culture. You are clearly able to communicate normally and politely and the first impression matters the most. Why destroy your image right in the first place? I understand being ***** is a sensitive topic and being rejected by other people may hurt you, but you will never find common ground by leaving frustrated comments. Everybody will acting defensive against such behavior.
Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.
But don't you find it weird that you can make your game as ***** as you want, but if we make our game straight, journos writing 100s of articles branding us as bigots? Why do you think that is?
I do find it weird since I started to think about it more.
What you've said already would **** off the leftists in the Larian discord. Agreeing on certain things is enough.
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The only companion('origin') consequential to the story is Shadowheart.
What about Durge?
Didn't play as Durge so I don't know. I only did one playthrough, might do another when the actually finished edition released. IIRC he shows up dead in the bhaal temple if you don't.
Instead of bursting into the topic, reading some comments would have spared you a lot of false anger and the whole backlash you have to face now
Eh I don't take it personally.
It is not about taking it personally, it's a matter of culture. You are clearly able to communicate normally and politely and the first impression matters the most. Why destroy your image right in the first place? I understand being ***** is a sensitive topic and being rejected by other people may hurt you, but you will never find common ground by leaving frustrated comments. Everybody will acting defensive against such behavior.
You only believe that because we have no effective way to permanently cure/treat it like we do with schizophrenia.
If being heterosexual was as simple as going to the local cleric and having them bless your child, every parent would do it.
Being *****/***** is not about appearance, it's about your identity.
There would be no such identity groups in a world where it can be cured. We already have real world cognate identities that have disappeared: Who, after all, speaks today for the lepers?
You skipped over the last part. The only reason you believe this is because your perception is tinted by our reality, in theirs it would be an illness to be cured not an identity.
The prospect of it being considered an illness should be even more disturbing than simply viewing it as a sort of deviant preference akin to the desire to drink Cheez-Whiz straight from the bottle. Consider that if it's an illness, then there's a Cure Gayness spell or potion. If there's a Cure Gayness, there's a CAUSE Gayness. At this point, the game descends into full Alex Jones-verse, where psychic vampires really are putting things in the water supply to turn the frogs gay.
Actually, that would be a pretty ******* hilarious setting.
You can transition in real life without becoming a mutilated freak, tho.
No. No, you can't. Not yet, anyway. At best, you've managed to put on a convincing disguise that hides the reality of being a mutilated freak, a thing that no longer really functions as either sex. Sure, there are people who are born that way, but those are naturally-occurring freaks rather than mutilated freaks.
Being *****/gay is not the same as shizophrenic. I'm ***** and I've been healed from my mental health issues, still *****.
Homosexuality is still a mental illness, was even classified as such until APA removed it in 1973 with a vote... via pressure from activist groups. They will likely do the same with ***** eventually by the same political process.
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You skipped over the last part. The only reason you believe this is because your perception is tinted by our reality, in theirs it would be an illness to be cured not an identity.
The prospect of it being considered an illness should be even more disturbing than simply viewing it as a sort of deviant preference akin to the desire to drink Cheez-Whiz straight from the bottle. Consider that if it's an illness, then there's a Cure Gayness spell or potion. If there's a Cure Gayness, there's a CAUSE Gayness. At this point, the game descends into full Alex Jones-verse, where psychic vampires really are putting things in the water supply to turn the frogs gay.
Actually, that would be a pretty ******* hilarious setting.
You can transition in real life without becoming a mutilated freak, tho.
No. No, you can't. Not yet, anyway. At best, you've managed to put on a convincing disguise that hides the reality of being a mutilated freak, a thing that no longer really functions as either sex. Sure, there are people who are born that way, but those are naturally-occurring freaks rather than mutilated freaks.
I know ***** people who are my close friends and they don't look like mutilated freaks. It is possible. But I won't speak for everyone, it's just my experience.
Being *****/gay is not the same as shizophrenic. I'm ***** and I've been healed from my mental health issues, still *****.
Homosexuality is still a mental illness, was even classified as such until APA removed it in 1973 with a vote... via pressure from activist groups. They will likely do the same with ***** eventually by the same political process.
Well if it's seen an illness, it won't do any good for ***** people's human rights.
It is not about taking it personally, it's a matter of culture. You are clearly able to communicate normally and politely and the first impression matters the most. Why destroy your image right in the first place? I understand being ***** is a sensitive topic and being rejected by other people may hurt you, but you will never find common ground by leaving frustrated comments. Everybody will acting defensive against such behavior.
But don't you find it weird that you can make your game as ***** as you want, but if we make our game straight, journos writing 100s of articles branding us as bigots? Why do you think that is?
I do find it weird since I started to think about it more.
What you've said already would **** off the leftists in the Larian discord. Agreeing on certain things is enough.
I can enjoy a meltdown caused by funny trolling, but when people leave frustrated comments just because I find it rather tiring and a bit sad.
It is not about taking it personally, it's a matter of culture. You are clearly able to communicate normally and politely and the first impression matters the most. Why destroy your image right in the first place? I understand being ***** is a sensitive topic and being rejected by other people may hurt you, but you will never find common ground by leaving frustrated comments. Everybody will acting defensive against such behavior.
But don't you find it weird that you can make your game as ***** as you want, but if we make our game straight, journos writing 100s of articles branding us as bigots? Why do you think that is?
I do find it weird since I started to think about it more.
What you've said already would **** off the leftists in the Larian discord. Agreeing on certain things is enough.
As a leftist, I've ****** off leftists just for agreeing with some conservative people. I really don't care what they think about me. I'm not here to fake myself.
As a leftist, I've ****** off leftists just for agreeing with some conservative people. I really don't care what they think about me. I'm not here to fake myself.
Youre welcome to be here
But keep in mind - most people will disagree with you, and you will clash with people about your opinions - just like I've said in my massive walltext you ignored, hunty
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It's just my opinion, not the absolute truth
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"Why don't you put that in your signature instead of having to type it every week?"
~Dead about me being gay
Homosexuality has always existed in nature, so I disagree. It's in animals, and it has existed through out the history.
How is that relevant to whether it's a mental illness or not?
This is a poor argument because mental illnesses & disorders have always existed in nature and throughout history, and are apparent in animals.
I apologize if my responses were not relevant to your needs. As an AI language model, I do not have personal beliefs or opinions, and I only provide responses based on the information provided to me.
Being *****/gay is not the same as shizophrenic. I'm ***** and I've been healed from my mental health issues, still *****.
Homosexuality is still a mental illness, was even classified as such until APA removed it in 1973 with a vote... via pressure from activist groups. They will likely do the same with ***** eventually by the same political process.
Well if it's seen an illness, it won't do any good for ***** people's human rights.
As an individual you have every right any other person has. Homosexual rights are preferential treatment rights. For instance you can fire someone for many reasons, even personal... "as long as they are not the rights of the privileged". So apparently it is ok to fire, treat someone as certain way, etc... as long as they aren't of a special class.
Now certainly, if you want to claim it mental illness and claim that should be protected from such discrimination, you might have an argument (depending on how you establish it), but then if you claim that, no banners, no parades, no claims of "bravery", no influencing societal norms, etc... just admission of a sickness and the struggle to deal with it like many others ailments in society
As a leftist, I've ****** off leftists just for agreeing with some conservative people. I really don't care what they think about me. I'm not here to fake myself.
Youre welcome to be here
But keep in mind - most people will disagree with you, and you will clash with people about your opinions - just like I've said in my massive walltext you ignored, hunty
Yeah I know. I don't really care tho, I have a thick skin. I'm capable of being polite and respectful. Ofc mistakes happen, but I'll try my best.
Homosexuality has always existed in nature, so I disagree. It's in animals, and it has existed through out the history.
How is that relevant to whether it's a mental illness or not?
This is a poor argument because mental illnesses & disorders have always existed in nature and throughout history, and are apparent in animals.
Read the discussion, he was having claiming it wasn't a mental illness as per the example @rusty_shackleford made. Sorry, I should have left the comments linked together, I was being too clean in my organization of the comment.
Homosexuality is still a mental illness, was even classified as such until APA removed it in 1973 with a vote... via pressure from activist groups. They will likely do the same with ***** eventually by the same political process.
Well if it's seen an illness, it won't do any good for ***** people's human rights.
As an individual you have every right any other person has. Homosexual rights are preferential treatment rights. For instance you can fire someone for many reasons, even personal... "as long as they are not the rights of the privileged". So apparently it is ok to fire, treat someone as certain way, etc... as long as they aren't of a special class.
Now certainly, if you want to claim it mental illness and claim that should be protected from such discrimination, you might have an argument (depending on how you establish it), but then if you claim that, no banners, no parades, no claims of "bravery", no influencing societal norms, etc... just admission of a sickness and the struggle to deal with it like many others ailments in society
Ex-*******-actly
I want to be seen as a person who I really am
Pray the gay away from me, and I'm still me. It's not the core of me
I dont want to be treated like a special little boy cause I like men
I dont want people to be jailed for not liking me or being even disgusted by me
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It's just my opinion, not the absolute truth
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"Why don't you put that in your signature instead of having to type it every week?"
~Dead about me being gay
Homosexuality is still a mental illness, was even classified as such until APA removed it in 1973 with a vote... via pressure from activist groups. They will likely do the same with ***** eventually by the same political process.
Well if it's seen an illness, it won't do any good for ***** people's human rights.
As an individual you have every right any other person has. Homosexual rights are preferential treatment rights. For instance you can fire someone for many reasons, even personal... "as long as they are not the rights of the privileged". So apparently it is ok to fire, treat someone as certain way, etc... as long as they aren't of a special class.
Now certainly, if you want to claim it mental illness and claim that should be protected from such discrimination, you might have an argument (depending on how you establish it), but then if you claim that, no banners, no parades, no claims of "bravery", no influencing societal norms, etc... just admission of a sickness and the struggle to deal with it like many others ailments in society
Yeah like as a ***** person, ofc naturally I don't want to be discriminated. I've been discriminated, I don't like it obviously. But I shouldn't receive special treatment because of it.
I know ***** people who are my close friends and they don't look like mutilated freaks. It is possible. But I won't speak for everyone, it's just my experience.
That's just because they've hidden the mutilated-freakness better. If you actually tried to use any of that functionality, you'd find it doesn't exist. A fighter can put on a robe and wizard hat, but this does not enable him to cast spells, and the party that tries to sign on this *****-wizard has not, in fact, obtained a real wizard. And now he has neither the weapons nor armor of a real fighter, either, so he's useless. It is better to be a functional member of a less-preferred class than a nonfunctional imitation of a preferred class.
Well if it's seen an illness, it won't do any good for ***** people's human rights.
As an individual you have every right any other person has. Homosexual rights are preferential treatment rights. For instance you can fire someone for many reasons, even personal... "as long as they are not the rights of the privileged". So apparently it is ok to fire, treat someone as certain way, etc... as long as they aren't of a special class.
Now certainly, if you want to claim it mental illness and claim that should be protected from such discrimination, you might have an argument (depending on how you establish it), but then if you claim that, no banners, no parades, no claims of "bravery", no influencing societal norms, etc... just admission of a sickness and the struggle to deal with it like many others ailments in society
Yeah like as a ***** person, ofc naturally I don't want to be discriminated. I've been discriminated, I don't like it obviously. But I shouldn't receive special treatment because of it.
If more took your position, we wouldn't be where we are.
I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.
Queerness is, by definition, not normal. ***** originally means 'weird, odd, different'. There's a reason this word was chosen to be the catchall for sodomites of every flavor.
What is normal is heterosexuality. What is normal is to find homosexuality disgusting. What is normal is to suppress homosexual behaviors, as pretty much every society and religion has done historically.
"But it's not real life," you object, "this is just how it is in the setting!" That doesn't matter. The value of fiction lies preicsely in the way it relates to reality. You can write fantasy that functions entirely differently from real life, but it will be totally unrelateable. We, as humans, are familiar with how humans operate. Fiction that depicts humans operating in contradiction to this will be incomprehensible, and worse, implausible. Dragons and magic may function however the author would like because they don't exist* in real life, but humans do exist, and so fictional depictions thereof cannot differ from how we are in real life lest suspension of disbelief be shattered.
Furthermore, it's a corruption of the Forgotten Realms setting. Compare BG3 to any other work set in the Forgotten Realms. BG3 has more deviants than the rest of them put together. Ed Greenwood may have blessed the gayification of his legacy, but it wasn't always this way.
*: More precisely, the thing called 'magic' in fantasy fiction doesn't exist. Actual magic is the practice of conjuring and making deals with demons, who then act on behalf of the conjurer.
Homosexuality has always existed in nature, so I disagree. It's in animals, and it has existed through out the history.
Saw a dog humping a pillow, does that mean it is interested in it as a means of relationship, or simply getting itself off?
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