No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[AliciaDurge]

I'm not ***** btw, just saying

1. Don't care, didn't ask.
2. I don't believe you.
3. You will never be a real woman.

'
As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

[AliciaDurge]

He's not going to come back but I wish he would because it would be funny.

I did come back, I was sleeping (I think we have different time zones).

[Mondain]

Bruh. In a world of dragons, space ships, mind flayers, nine layers of hell, gods, and immortal people you draw the line in ***** people to match with the medieval status quo? The ship of realism has shipped long time ago. Just don't play the game if you don't like it, problem solved. Also, ***** people did exist in medieval times. Open a history book. They were in danger to come out of closet. Also, this is a fantasy world in a fictional world outside of Earth. It doesn't need to match any status quo we have. Just bruh.

Bolded the important part.

Yes, they were in danger if they were discovered. Which is why, realistically, they shouldn't dress their adopted boy like a girl and tell every stranger they meet how much they like it up the ***.

Nobody in the world told me they like it up in their ***? Few men just mentioned about having a husband, which is like a man mentioning to have a wife. Also, Faerun doesn't exist in our world. It's not in Earth. So why they should care about it? Like there are literal gods, demons, and devils running around in that world, why would anyone care about someone being gay? It's the least of their worries, I would rather be gay in that world than get impaled by a devil horn or something. Genuinely curious about this btw.

Overt homosexuality is an extension of turning rpgs into dating sims.

[Oyster Sauce]

I'm not ***** btw, just saying

1. Don't care, didn't ask.
2. I don't believe you.
3. You will never be a real woman.

'
As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

Did you get the skill testing question correct the first time when you registered?

[Metalhead33]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but most people simply don't want to see homosexual activity shoved into their faces.
It is a natural human instinct to be disgusted by homosexual activity, to find it repulsive and repugnant. In case you didn't know, the majority of humans - around 96% of them - are heterosexual, and the majority of those are at least mildly repulsed by homosexual activity. It's a natural human instinct. If queers are "born that way" (big doubt), then us homophobes are "born that way" too.

Now, we can debate whether that's a good enough justification to physically eliminate people who are into that stuff (many on the forum will say yes, I personally disagree), but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is, we simply don't want to see two women kiss, we don't want to hear a man talk about having a husband, etc. Get that **** out of air sight.
So we modify the game to tailor it to our own tastes. It's a single-player game, we paid for it, nobody is forced to use the mod.

Personally - again, I'm only speaking on my own behalf, many on the forum hold far more radical views - my main gripe with queers is how tribal they are. They act more like an ethnic group, religious cult or political ideology than just a sexual orientation. 99% of the time, homosexuality and transgenderism are just proxies for radical progressive politics, something I vehemently oppose. I even dare to to claim that the majority of "homophobes" don't actually hate homosexuality itself (other than being mildly repulsed by it, as I mentioned), just the political baggage that usually gets attached to it.

In an ideal world, it would be live-and-let-live and to-each-their-own, but.... well, we don't exactly live in an ideal world. And I for one support whoever steps up against the LGTV nonsense.

[Gregz]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but most people simply don't want to see homosexual activity shoved into their faces.
It is a natural human instinct to be disgusted by homosexual activity, to find it repulsive and repugnant. In case you didn't know, the majority of humans - around 96% of them - are heterosexual, and the majority of those are at least mildly repulsed by homosexual activity. It's a natural human instinct. If queers are "born that way" (big doubt), then us homophobes are "born that way" too.

Now, we can debate whether that's a good enough justification to physically eliminate people who are into that stuff (many on the forum will say yes, I personally disagree), but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is, we simply don't want to see two women kiss, we don't want to hear a man talk about having a husband, etc. Get that **** out of air sight.
So we modify the game to tailor it to our own tastes. It's a single-player game, we paid for it, nobody is forced to use the mod.

100% correct. 'Homophobia' is a fake and weaponized word attempting to shame society into embracing the unnatural. Fear is not the same emotion as disgust, and homos being disgusting to the rest of us is natural.

[Metalhead33]

100% correct. 'Homophobia' is a fake and weaponized word attempting to shame society into embracing the unnatural. Fear is not the same emotion as disgust, and homos being disgusting to the rest of us is natural.

Exactly. It's not "fear" - it's disgust. Justified disgust. Instinctive disgust.

[WhiteShark]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Queerness is, by definition, not normal. ***** originally means 'weird, odd, different'. There's a reason this word was chosen to be the catchall for sodomites of every flavor.

What is normal is heterosexuality. What is normal is to find homosexuality disgusting. What is normal is to suppress homosexual behaviors, as pretty much every society and religion has done historically.

"But it's not real life," you object, "this is just how it is in the setting!" That doesn't matter. The value of fiction lies preicsely in the way it relates to reality. You can write fantasy that functions entirely differently from real life, but it will be totally unrelateable. We, as humans, are familiar with how humans operate. Fiction that depicts humans operating in contradiction to this will be incomprehensible, and worse, implausible. Dragons and magic may function however the author would like because they don't exist* in real life, but humans do exist, and so fictional depictions thereof cannot differ from how we are in real life lest suspension of disbelief be shattered.

Furthermore, it's a corruption of the Forgotten Realms setting. Compare BG3 to any other work set in the Forgotten Realms. BG3 has more deviants than the rest of them put together. Ed Greenwood may have blessed the gayification of his legacy, but it wasn't always this way.

*: More precisely, the thing called 'magic' in fantasy fiction doesn't exist. Actual magic is the practice of conjuring and making deals with demons, who then act on behalf of the conjurer.

[rusty_shackleford]

make sure you put me in the chud screencap showing what bigots we are

[Godjjjita]

I know we pride ourselves on freedom of speech and in an ideal world this is how it should be but if the enemy censor us at every opportunity going so far as creating laws to arrest those who do not bow to their ideology is it fair that we who have no power should be "the better man" in this situation? Don't they say private companies don't have to respect free speech for thar right is to protect civilians from government abuse and doesn't apply to private owned businesses? It is the excuse every time we are censored.
Getting to the point. We have an enemy in our midst, should we not ban it like they would ban us? I can only speak for myself but I'm not Jesus and cannot turn the other cheek giving the circumstances.

[Oyster Sauce]

I know we pride ourselves on freedom of speech

Freedom of speech is gay

Getting to the point. We have an enemy in our midst, should we not ban it like they would ban us?

Nah

[WhiteShark]

We have an enemy in our midst, should we not ban it like they would ban us?

I'm not a free speech absolutist myself, but I don't think a leftist wandering in and being made a laughingstock once in a while is real threat to the HQ.

[Acrux]

Like there are literal gods, demons, and devils running around in that world

Oh, so you admit it's exactly like Earth, then. Cool.

[orinEsque]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

[Faceless_Sentinel]

Bruh. In a world of dragons, space ships, mind flayers, nine layers of hell, gods, and immortal people you draw the line in ***** people to match with the medieval status quo? The ship of realism has shipped long time ago. Just don't play the game if you don't like it, problem solved. Also, ***** people did exist in medieval times. Open a history book. They were in danger to come out of closet. Also, this is a fantasy world in a fictional world outside of Earth. It doesn't need to match any status quo we have. Just bruh.

Why are you asking questions, if you are not ready for dialogue and you didn`t make an effort to familiarize yourself with the topic you're talking about? Since you are another SJW LGBTKIARIO warrior incapable of dialogue and is not ready to hear and understand the opposite point of view, i give you this:



But if suddenly you are ready for dialogue and ready to hear and understand the arguments of your interlocutor, start by answering these three questions:

Who's forcing you to download this mod?

Why does the mere existence of a mod you don't want bother you so much? There's also mods to turn characters into a blue locomotive, Hulk Hogan, or a terlet. I don't want any of these things, but I also don't care about them existing.

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Nope, won’t believe it and won’t fall for it.
I have no desire to describe constructively, give arguments, write explanations in a language not native to me so that later your kind lie and misrepresent my point of view, like it was done with this community


Call me all buzzwords you want, i don`t care.
Ironically, it is easier to be openly communistic in this forum, than openly conservative in your "diverse and inclusive save spaces".

[ArcaneLurker]

Nobody in the world told me they like it up in their ***? Few men just mentioned about having a husband, which is like a man mentioning to have a wife. Also, Faerun doesn't exist in our world. It's not in Earth. So why they should care about it? Like there are literal gods, demons, and devils running around in that world, why would anyone care about someone being gay? It's the least of their worries, I would rather be gay in that world than get impaled by a devil horn or something. Genuinely curious about this btw.

You'd rather munch carpets than be impaled?
So brave of you to say.

It's not about what's 100% historically correct, it's about making it more palatable & plausible, because there is some decent stuff there besides the ESG-induced nonsense.
It's one thing to include a variety of lifestyles in a fairly accurate or plausible way, it's another thing for a company to insert distasteful LGBT characters everywhere, and try to convince the audience of a distorted perception of reality. Heterosexuality is the norm and plausible worldbuilding is mutually exclusive to pandering to a minority of a minority, that just happen to mostly be absolutely psycho, control-freak fruitcakes that can't cope with people modding their own singleplayer experience.

[rusty_shackleford]

Adding homosexuals is no different than adding NPCs who mention their foot fetish in their opening dialogue.
Yes, it is different from heterosexuality. You cannot impregnate a man's anus, and you cannot impregnate a foot. Homosexuality is a deviant sexual fetish. Heterosexuality is required for the people to exist.

What, I presume, many people are tired of is the mainstreaming of sexual deviancy and the idea that it's equivalent to procreation. What does ******* a man up the *** have to do with an RPG? Absolutely nothing, there is no world building implied from informing us of this. Contrast with e.g., dwarves having to capture and keep human females as rape slaves due to their women becoming barren. Yes, that really was actually canon in Forgotten Realms:

(TSR, Dwarves Deep)

Homosexual dwarves not only destroy this kind of worldbuilding, but put the writer's fetishes front and center.

[Humbaba]

*liberal noises*

We don't like ******* holy **** what is it that you don't get?






-Humbaba

[Slavic Sorcerer]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Certified and well known ****** who helped with this mod here

First I'm gonna ask
Why the **** do you care, jurno?
Why are you bothered so much by people doing what they want?
It's to customize personal gameplay.
Why do you care what I'm, or anyone else, doing in my spare time?

I kill Wyll on sight cause I like killing *******.
Does it bother you?
If yes, why?
Why does that matter?

Now, to answer your dilemma and clear the air out.
And again, it comes straight from probably the only openly gay dude in this bastion of fascism reddit calls it.

Be sure to make notes and include my Charles Hitler in your screen caps.
It's my pride and joy.

You'd think as a gay man I'd be happy with the representation.
But I'm not.
It's bigger than just "gays are disgusting" or "transphobia"

Strap yourself and tell your cat he's gonna eat later, cause I broke my nail today and this fucktrain has no breaks.

For the past several years, all I've seen is tokenization of something I was born with; a book, a movie, a show, doesn't matter.
Something that is not special to me nor to the people around me, and pushing it down the throats of the general audience to swallow it.
No lube, no safe word, just forced to consume it.
This builds resentment. Large one at that.
In both people like me and the rest of the audience.

What woke wastes of mother's love do not understand is that even expressing being uncomfortable with gay love.
The sole act alone of turning the gaze away has been punished by the media and the establishment for the past several years.
There are multiple reasons to why someone might not like it or support it.
And I as a gay man support them in their right to feel disgusted and disturbed by gays, lesbians and ********.
And I fully endorse this mod.
This mod has ****** stamp of approval.

I hate seeing lesbians or naked women altogether.
I feel disgusted and uncomfortable when I see bare tiddies in games.
Vagina is straight up repulsive for me.
But nobody comes after my job for saying that, nor they try to harass and cancel me for having such reaction.
I just keep it down for myself, and try to ignore it.

Straight people who said the same about "ze gayz"? They were harassed and cancelled, fired from their jobs, even doxxed at times.
And I barely scratched the surface so far to how this resentment is built.

Spoiler alert: it's the fault of the wokies, the ****, the media, the ESG scores, the activists, the perpetual narcissists, the grifters, pedophiles hiding in those ranks.
And everyone else who pushes the narrative to force others to accept and praise me and others for being gay.

There's nothing special in me sucking my boyfriend's **** each night, hunty.
There's nothing special about being gay, lesbian, bi, or a ******.
Why my orientation is being put on a pedestal?

Trust me when I say if not for those vulture-activists, people wouldn't be so upset with any gayness in the media like they are now.
I'm upset about gayness in the media as well.
And thanks to those who promote it, acceptance, support, or even tolerance is dwindling down for men like me.

On top of that, those token characters are horrible.
I'm summing up the "rEpReSeNtAtIoN" in every media now.
They don't behave like normal people, they are not written naturally, and they are there only to boost ESG scores or whatever those jewish rats came up with.
Either they are complete blanks lacking personality and character arcs, or they are holier than thou and the rest of the cast, Mary Sues, incapable of doing anything wrong.
It's annoying as ****.

Not to mention everything needs to have tokens it seems.
I'm against ******* ******* and nappy heads in the Witcher series. That's why I hate the Netflix adaptation. Quashees and omarosas werent even there to begin with.
The same kind of feeling is when people see forced diversity in a setting they don't expect it - especially if it feels forced.
If people want to create LGBT-Free world, let them do it. It's their right.

"iTs FanTaSy" shut the **** up
Magic exist, there should be no ******* ******** in this game, cause Polymorph and Disquise Self exist.
******** wouldn't exist in the world of Faerun, because they'd blend in perfectly.
The only reason they exist in this game is for being annoying tokens they are.

Aylin and Isobela are ******* unsufferable lesbian couple I cannot even to begin to describe.
In subsequent playthroughs I just straight up kill one or both of them, cause Aylin is obnoxious as ****.
The only likeable lesbo is Alfira. Imagine I didnt know she is a lesbian, cause she keeps that to herself, as she should. She's not obnoxious with it

TL;DR - people are tired of THE MESSAGE and faggotness being forced upon them.
That's why this mod exists.
******** in the open make no sense since magic exists.

We also know it makes wokies bloody mad, ******** themselves all over on mere thought somebody erases ******** and *******.
That's one way to fight this ******* nightmare.

[Oyster Sauce]

Adding homosexuals is no different than adding NPCs who mention their foot fetish in their opening dialogue.
Yes, it is different from heterosexuality. You cannot impregnate a man's anus, and you cannot impregnate a foot. Homosexuality is a deviant sexual fetish. Heterosexuality is required for the people to exist.

What, I presume, many people are tired of is the mainstreaming of sexual deviancy and the idea that it's equivalent to procreation. What does ******* a man up the *** have to do with an RPG? Absolutely nothing, there is no world building implied from informing us of this. Contrast with e.g., dwarves having to capture and keep human females as rape slaves due to their women becoming barren. Yes, that really was actually canon in Forgotten Realms:

(TSR, Dwarves Deep)

Homosexual dwarves not only destroy this kind of worldbuilding, but put the writer's fetishes front and center.

Dwarf rape gang society is pretty ****** magical realm writing

[orinEsque]

@rosielavender Saw your post. I saw some discussion about it on our forums as well earlier. Sad how militant these people are. Have an opinion? Cancelled.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

Bruh. In a world of dragons, space ships, mind flayers, nine layers of hell, gods, and immortal people you draw the line in ***** people to match with the medieval status quo? The ship of realism has shipped long time ago. Just don't play the game if you don't like it, problem solved. Also, ***** people did exist in medieval times. Open a history book. They were in danger to come out of closet. Also, this is a fantasy world in a fictional world outside of Earth. It doesn't need to match any status quo we have. Just bruh.

Why does the mere existence of a mod you don't want bother you so much? There's also mods to turn characters into a blue locomotive, Hulk Hogan, or a terlet. I don't want any of these things, but I also don't care about them existing.

Exactly.
I wont download mastectomy scars for male companions mod or niggerification mod cause I hate obnoxious ******** and *******.
Those people are mad cause we took upon their offer - made our own community and hosting site for our own creations.

[fkirenicus]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Very well, I will give you the benefit of doubt. Here's my stance on the matter.
I have no problem with certain characters in the game being gay, what I have a problem with is that it actually appears to be the norm in the game.
Which is not realistic, neither in our real world nor Ed G's Faerûn. And as far as I know, never was said Ed G's intention, either.

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[OnTilt]

Adding homosexuals is no different than adding NPCs who mention their foot fetish in their opening dialogue.
Yes, it is different from heterosexuality. You cannot impregnate a man's anus, and you cannot impregnate a foot. Homosexuality is a deviant sexual fetish. Heterosexuality is required for the people to exist.

What, I presume, many people are tired of is the mainstreaming of sexual deviancy and the idea that it's equivalent to procreation. What does ******* a man up the *** have to do with an RPG? Absolutely nothing, there is no world building implied from informing us of this. Contrast with e.g., dwarves having to capture and keep human females as rape slaves due to their women becoming barren. Yes, that really was actually canon in Forgotten Realms:

(TSR, Dwarves Deep)

Homosexual dwarves not only destroy this kind of worldbuilding, but put the writer's fetishes front and center.

Edit: Read the whole thing like a normal human instead of the first two lines. Still sort of mind ****** by the idea of dwarf rape gangs -- who knew they were Pakis. I'm looking at Snow White and the Seven Dwarves differently now, too.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

Why are you asking questions, if you are not ready for dialogue and you didn`t make an effort to familiarize yourself with the topic you're talking about? Since you are another SJW LGBTKIARIO warrior incapable of dialogue and is not ready to hear and understand the opposite point of view, i give you this:



But if suddenly you are ready for dialogue and ready to hear and understand the arguments of your interlocutor, start by answering these three questions:

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Nope, won’t believe it and won’t fall for it.
I have no desire to describe constructively, give arguments, write explanations in a language not native to me so that later your kind lie and misrepresent my point of view, like it was done with this community

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Call me all buzzwords you want, i don`t care.
Ironically, it is easier to be openly communistic in this forum, than openly conservative in your "diverse and inclusive save spaces".

Same.
The only reason I even bothered to write my walltext is because I got...annoyed

And I do agree.
Yes, your opinion will be challenged here or you will clash with someone one day, engaging in a discussion or exchange of slurs, but this forum is much better than those pro-LGBT spaces.
It's much more productive and honest.

I'd be banned from those "diverse and inclusive save spaces" for not wanting to date a transman, for saying kids shouldnt have to be taught the propaganda, or that ******** have no place in settings where polymorphy exists.

[Vergil]

'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful.

Blow it out your *** ****** ******.

[Vergil]

Bruh.

Just bruh.

You talk like a ****** and your shits all ******** btw

[OnTilt]

I'm not ***** btw, just saying

1. Don't care, didn't ask.
2. I don't believe you.
3. You will never be a real woman.

'
As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

Where is your Father/Husband and why are they letting you on the internet unsupervised?

[Vergil]

"Yea I'm going to come into your home turf, insult your beliefs, give ******/no arguments, act like a ******, and then demand you take me seriously and give me respect"
Join the 42% you bad faith likely journo ******. You're not owed my time to sit down and have a four hour long round table discussion of your dumbass "beliefs" you downloaded from man on TV and your fellow **** on twitter.

[Slavic Sorcerer]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but most people simply don't want to see homosexual activity shoved into their faces.
It is a natural human instinct to be disgusted by homosexual activity, to find it repulsive and repugnant. In case you didn't know, the majority of humans - around 96% of them - are heterosexual, and the majority of those are at least mildly repulsed by homosexual activity. It's a natural human instinct. If queers are "born that way" (big doubt), then us homophobes are "born that way" too.

Now, we can debate whether that's a good enough justification to physically eliminate people who are into that stuff (many on the forum will say yes, I personally disagree), but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is, we simply don't want to see two women kiss, we don't want to hear a man talk about having a husband, etc. Get that **** out of air sight.
So we modify the game to tailor it to our own tastes. It's a single-player game, we paid for it, nobody is forced to use the mod.

Personally - again, I'm only speaking on my own behalf, many on the forum hold far more radical views - my main gripe with queers is how tribal they are. They act more like an ethnic group, religious cult or political ideology than just a sexual orientation. 99% of the time, homosexuality and transgenderism are just proxies for radical progressive politics, something I vehemently oppose. I even dare to to claim that the majority of "homophobes" don't actually hate homosexuality itself (other than being mildly repulsed by it, as I mentioned), just the political baggage that usually gets attached to it.

In an ideal world, it would be live-and-let-live and to-each-their-own, but.... well, we don't exactly live in an ideal world. And I for one support whoever steps up against the LGTV nonsense.

What you're saying is pretty much in line with what I posted later - but more dignified.
I'm gonna steal that quote: "If queers are "born that way", then us homophobes are "born that way" too." It's an argument I wish I had before.

I also agree. If Rusty hated "ze gayz" I would be banned from here long ago.
I don't feel hated here. It's just banter + personal opinions.