No Alphabets 7.1 — Baldur's Gate 3

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but most people simply don't want to see homosexual activity shoved into their faces.
It is a natural human instinct to be disgusted by homosexual activity, to find it repulsive and repugnant. In case you didn't know, the majority of humans - around 96% of them - are heterosexual, and the majority of those are at least mildly repulsed by homosexual activity. It's a natural human instinct. If queers are "born that way" (big doubt), then us homophobes are "born that way" too.

Now, we can debate whether that's a good enough justification to physically eliminate people who are into that stuff (many on the forum will say yes, I personally disagree), but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is, we simply don't want to see two women kiss, we don't want to hear a man talk about having a husband, etc. Get that **** out of air sight.
So we modify the game to tailor it to our own tastes. It's a single-player game, we paid for it, nobody is forced to use the mod.

Personally - again, I'm only speaking on my own behalf, many on the forum hold far more radical views - my main gripe with queers is how tribal they are. They act more like an ethnic group, religious cult or political ideology than just a sexual orientation. 99% of the time, homosexuality and transgenderism are just proxies for radical progressive politics, something I vehemently oppose. I even dare to to claim that the majority of "homophobes" don't actually hate homosexuality itself (other than being mildly repulsed by it, as I mentioned), just the political baggage that usually gets attached to it.

In an ideal world, it would be live-and-let-live and to-each-their-own, but.... well, we don't exactly live in an ideal world. And I for one support whoever steps up against the LGTV nonsense.

Okay, you have a fair point about LGBTQ politics. Being ***** is normal, but people have made it a political thing way too much.

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Can't speak for anyone else on the forum, but most people simply don't want to see homosexual activity shoved into their faces.
It is a natural human instinct to be disgusted by homosexual activity, to find it repulsive and repugnant. In case you didn't know, the majority of humans - around 96% of them - are heterosexual, and the majority of those are at least mildly repulsed by homosexual activity. It's a natural human instinct. If queers are "born that way" (big doubt), then us homophobes are "born that way" too.

Now, we can debate whether that's a good enough justification to physically eliminate people who are into that stuff (many on the forum will say yes, I personally disagree), but that's completely irrelevant. What matters is, we simply don't want to see two women kiss, we don't want to hear a man talk about having a husband, etc. Get that **** out of air sight.
So we modify the game to tailor it to our own tastes. It's a single-player game, we paid for it, nobody is forced to use the mod.

100% correct. 'Homophobia' is a fake and weaponized word attempting to shame society into embracing the unnatural. Fear is not the same emotion as disgust, and homos being disgusting to the rest of us is natural.

Well, people who were born ***** didn't choose it. Trust me, if I had the chance to choose to be straight, I would.

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Queerness is, by definition, not normal. ***** originally means 'weird, odd, different'. There's a reason this word was chosen to be the catchall for sodomites of every flavor.

What is normal is heterosexuality. What is normal is to find homosexuality disgusting. What is normal is to suppress homosexual behaviors, as pretty much every society and religion has done historically.

"But it's not real life," you object, "this is just how it is in the setting!" That doesn't matter. The value of fiction lies preicsely in the way it relates to reality. You can write fantasy that functions entirely differently from real life, but it will be totally unrelateable. We, as humans, are familiar with how humans operate. Fiction that depicts humans operating in contradiction to this will be incomprehensible, and worse, implausible. Dragons and magic may function however the author would like because they don't exist* in real life, but humans do exist, and so fictional depictions thereof cannot differ from how we are in real life lest suspension of disbelief be shattered.

Furthermore, it's a corruption of the Forgotten Realms setting. Compare BG3 to any other work set in the Forgotten Realms. BG3 has more deviants than the rest of them put together. Ed Greenwood may have blessed the gayification of his legacy, but it wasn't always this way.

*: More precisely, the thing called 'magic' in fantasy fiction doesn't exist. Actual magic is the practice of conjuring and making deals with demons, who then act on behalf of the conjurer.

Homosexuality has always existed in nature, so I disagree. It's in animals, and it has existed through out the history.

[AliciaDurge]

I know we pride ourselves on freedom of speech and in an ideal world this is how it should be but if the enemy censor us at every opportunity going so far as creating laws to arrest those who do not bow to their ideology is it fair that we who have no power should be "the better man" in this situation? Don't they say private companies don't have to respect free speech for thar right is to protect civilians from government abuse and doesn't apply to private owned businesses? It is the excuse every time we are censored.
Getting to the point. We have an enemy in our midst, should we not ban it like they would ban us? I can only speak for myself but I'm not Jesus and cannot turn the other cheek giving the circumstances.

You have a point about arresting people. I don't like that, either.

[AliciaDurge]

Like there are literal gods, demons, and devils running around in that world

Oh, so you admit it's exactly like Earth, then. Cool.

I meant that comment as in gods etc. don't just casually show up on Earth like they do show up in Faerun (one of Gale's ending, for example).

[loregamer]

******.

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

[ArcaneLurker]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

"Bruh"

[Magick]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

If you're curious then answer the question.

[AliciaDurge]

Adding homosexuals is no different than adding NPCs who mention their foot fetish in their opening dialogue.
Yes, it is different from heterosexuality. You cannot impregnate a man's anus, and you cannot impregnate a foot. Homosexuality is a deviant sexual fetish. Heterosexuality is required for the people to exist.

What, I presume, many people are tired of is the mainstreaming of sexual deviancy and the idea that it's equivalent to procreation. What does ******* a man up the *** have to do with an RPG? Absolutely nothing, there is no world building implied from informing us of this. Contrast with e.g., dwarves having to capture and keep human females as rape slaves due to their women becoming barren. Yes, that really was actually canon in Forgotten Realms:

(TSR, Dwarves Deep)

Homosexual dwarves not only destroy this kind of worldbuilding, but put the writer's fetishes front and center.

Guestion, is that canon in BG3 or in D&D generally? Just want this out of the way. it's ****** up either way.

Anyways, not all heterosexual people can't or want to have sex. You can have a kid as a homosexual couple through adoption or the medical route. As long as nobody gets hurt, then who cares? There are bad apples in both straight and non-straight folks, it's not a black and white thing. You can't impregnate an infertile woman.

[AliciaDurge]

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

If you're curious then answer the question.

In a minute.

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.

[ArcaneLurker]

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.

There's me thinking it was already *****'d out to the max.

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Certified and well known ****** who helped with this mod here

First I'm gonna ask
Why the **** do you care, jurno?
Why are you bothered so much by people doing what they want?
It's to customize personal gameplay.
Why do you care what I'm, or anyone else, doing in my spare time?

I kill Wyll on sight cause I like killing *******.
Does it bother you?
If yes, why?
Why does that matter?

Now, to answer your dilemma and clear the air out.
And again, it comes straight from probably the only openly gay dude in this bastion of fascism reddit calls it.

Be sure to make notes and include my Charles Hitler in your screen caps.
It's my pride and joy.

You'd think as a gay man I'd be happy with the representation.
But I'm not.
It's bigger than just "gays are disgusting" or "transphobia"

Strap yourself and tell your cat he's gonna eat later, cause I broke my nail today and this fucktrain has no breaks.

For the past several years, all I've seen is tokenization of something I was born with; a book, a movie, a show, doesn't matter.
Something that is not special to me nor to the people around me, and pushing it down the throats of the general audience to swallow it.
No lube, no safe word, just forced to consume it.
This builds resentment. Large one at that.
In both people like me and the rest of the audience.

What woke wastes of mother's love do not understand is that even expressing being uncomfortable with gay love.
The sole act alone of turning the gaze away has been punished by the media and the establishment for the past several years.
There are multiple reasons to why someone might not like it or support it.
And I as a gay man support them in their right to feel disgusted and disturbed by gays, lesbians and ********.
And I fully endorse this mod.
This mod has ****** stamp of approval.

I hate seeing lesbians or naked women altogether.
I feel disgusted and uncomfortable when I see bare tiddies in games.
Vagina is straight up repulsive for me.
But nobody comes after my job for saying that, nor they try to harass and cancel me for having such reaction.
I just keep it down for myself, and try to ignore it.

Straight people who said the same about "ze gayz"? They were harassed and cancelled, fired from their jobs, even doxxed at times.
And I barely scratched the surface so far to how this resentment is built.

Spoiler alert: it's the fault of the wokies, the ****, the media, the ESG scores, the activists, the perpetual narcissists, the grifters, pedophiles hiding in those ranks.
And everyone else who pushes the narrative to force others to accept and praise me and others for being gay.

There's nothing special in me sucking my boyfriend's **** each night, hunty.
There's nothing special about being gay, lesbian, bi, or a ******.
Why my orientation is being put on a pedestal?

Trust me when I say if not for those vulture-activists, people wouldn't be so upset with any gayness in the media like they are now.
I'm upset about gayness in the media as well.
And thanks to those who promote it, acceptance, support, or even tolerance is dwindling down for men like me.

On top of that, those token characters are horrible.
I'm summing up the "rEpReSeNtAtIoN" in every media now.
They don't behave like normal people, they are not written naturally, and they are there only to boost ESG scores or whatever those jewish rats came up with.
Either they are complete blanks lacking personality and character arcs, or they are holier than thou and the rest of the cast, Mary Sues, incapable of doing anything wrong.
It's annoying as ****.

Not to mention everything needs to have tokens it seems.
I'm against ******* ******* and nappy heads in the Witcher series. That's why I hate the Netflix adaptation. Quashees and omarosas werent even there to begin with.
The same kind of feeling is when people see forced diversity in a setting they don't expect it - especially if it feels forced.
If people want to create LGBT-Free world, let them do it. It's their right.

"iTs FanTaSy" shut the **** up
Magic exist, there should be no ******* ******** in this game, cause Polymorph and Disquise Self exist.
******** wouldn't exist in the world of Faerun, because they'd blend in perfectly.
The only reason they exist in this game is for being annoying tokens they are.

Aylin and Isobela are ******* unsufferable lesbian couple I cannot even to begin to describe.
In subsequent playthroughs I just straight up kill one or both of them, cause Aylin is obnoxious as ****.
The only likeable lesbo is Alfira. Imagine I didnt know she is a lesbian, cause she keeps that to herself, as she should. She's not obnoxious with it

TL;DR - people are tired of THE MESSAGE and faggotness being forced upon them.
That's why this mod exists.
******** in the open make no sense since magic exists.

We also know it makes wokies bloody mad, ******** themselves all over on mere thought somebody erases ******** and *******.
That's one way to fight this ******* nightmare.

Okay, thanks for your insight. I agree on that media has taken queerness way too far. Being ***** is not about appearance tho, but yeah.

[Magick]

it's for your own experience

That is indeed the point, and total extent of mods, yes.
I'm glad that you have come to this revelation.

[Braintoast93]

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.

Instead of bursting into the topic, reading some comments would have spared you a lot of false anger and the whole backlash you have to face now

[AliciaDurge]

I'm ready for an open discussion with people who are respectful. Sorry if I came across in a wrong way at my first post. It's not about using this mod, it's more about the reasons people use this mod. Being ***** is normal, why people are so against it? I'm curious.

Very well, I will give you the benefit of doubt. Here's my stance on the matter.
I have no problem with certain characters in the game being gay, what I have a problem with is that it actually appears to be the norm in the game.
Which is not realistic, neither in our real world nor Ed G's Faerûn. And as far as I know, never was said Ed G's intention, either.

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Okay, thanks for answering.

[AliciaDurge]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.

Instead of bursting into the topic, reading some comments would have spared you a lot of false anger and the whole backlash you have to face now

Eh I don't take it personally.

[rusty_shackleford]

Guestion, is that canon in BG3 or in D&D generally?

That was canon Forgotten Realms material at the time of publishing.

Anyways, not all heterosexual people can't or want to have sex. You can have a kid as a homosexual couple through adoption or the medical route. As long as nobody gets hurt, then who cares? There are bad apples in both straight and non-straight folks, it's not a black and white thing. You can't impregnate an infertile woman.

Riddle me this: Forgotten Realms has magic, yes? And said magic can do many things such as change someone's physical form or behavior, yes?
So… Why are there transsexuals or gays? You yourself said this is something that people don't choose to be but are forced to be.

The only reason someone would see them as something that should exist is if it's from a point of view of someone from our world. Let's do a thought experiment where there's a world that has no cure or treatment for schizophrenia, and schizophrenics have their own communities and identity. But in our world, we have drugs that work as effective treatments for schizophrenia and such movements never began therefore there are no communities of schizophrenics who demand representation and so forth. How would they view our society's treatment towards schizophrenics?

[fkirenicus]

Guestion, is that canon in BG3 or in D&D generally? Just want this out of the way. it's ****** up either way.

That would be AD&D 1st edition, canon FR lore.
And while it may be "****** up", it's not unusual for fantasy worlds to be "****** up". Take Westeros as an example.
Part of their charm/why we find them so fascinating, no?

[AliciaDurge]

1. Don't care, didn't ask.
2. I don't believe you.
3. You will never be a real woman.

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As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

Where is your Father/Husband and why are they letting you on the internet unsupervised?

I hope that question was sarcastic.

[Acrux]

This has been the most boring bait I've ever seen. I was hoping we were going to have some real excitement. Instead it's just a run-of-the-mill libtard.

[AliciaDurge]

If you really hate *******, kill Wyll in Act 2 while "rescuing" Mizora in Moonrise..not only will you kill him and his arrogant owner ***** but you will also condemn him to be a rat in the hell for eternity

But I'd have to interact with him and progress his quest

It is funny how inconsequential he really ends up being. Very easy to just not interact with him at all after his ***** little try hard intro fighting the goblins. Not even present when you raid the grove. Probably hiding somewhere eating watermelon or something. Lazy nig.

I played his guest to the end and it got better. Just my opinion, tho.

[Acrux]

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As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

Where is your Father/Husband and why are they letting you on the internet unsupervised?

I hope that question was sarcastic.

It's not sarcastic. We have rules:

Women may create an account with their husband's permission, but may not post except in the designated women's forum. Topics are limited to:

homeschooling
recipe exchange
cleaning tips
Christmas cookie exchange/Secret Santa
Bible study (must be led by a man)
posts exhorting each other to be better wives

[Norfleet]

So… Why are there transsexuals or gays? You yourself said this is something that people don't choose to be but are forced to be.

Well, it makes sense that gays would still exist, since gays don't have any particular desire to alter themselves, they just like what they like.

Transsexuals, well, there's already that magic item that straight up changes your sex. They could just get one of those. Then you become the real deal instead of some mutilated freak.

[AliciaDurge]

But I'd have to interact with him and progress his quest

It is funny how inconsequential he really ends up being. Very easy to just not interact with him at all after his ***** little try hard intro fighting the goblins. Not even present when you raid the grove. Probably hiding somewhere eating watermelon or something. Lazy nig.

The only companion('origin') consequential to the story is Shadowheart.

What about Durge?

[Vergil]

But I'd have to interact with him and progress his quest

It is funny how inconsequential he really ends up being. Very easy to just not interact with him at all after his ***** little try hard intro fighting the goblins. Not even present when you raid the grove. Probably hiding somewhere eating watermelon or something. Lazy nig.

I played his guest to the end and it got better. Just my opinion, tho.

I don't like black people.

[rusty_shackleford]

Well, it makes sense that gays would still exist, since gays don't have any particular desire to alter themselves, they just like what they like.

You skipped over the last part. The only reason you believe this is because your perception is tinted by our reality, in theirs it would be an illness to be cured not an identity.

[orinEsque]

If you want anything out of me you have to tell me what your problem is with people tailoring their OWN entertainment to what they find entertaining.

note: here's something to blow your mind, one of the first people who contributed to helping me make the mod is a certified homosexual. [i'm not being ironic]

Okay, my bad. I came across too strongly, sorry about that. I was just really curious why people are bothered about this. Anyways, have a good day.

Okay so, to answer to your question, I think I got this thread wrong at first. I thought that this was generally against being ***** in games, but when now you told me it's for your own experience, I see no harm. I'm gonna ***** out of my game as much I want to, but you can make it straight as much as you want to.

But don't you find it weird that you can make your game as ***** as you want, but if we make our game straight, journos writing 100s of articles branding us as bigots? Why do you think that is?

[Slavic Sorcerer]

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As someone who was born with a vag I'm not a real woman? Lol ok then, I'll take that.

Where is your Father/Husband and why are they letting you on the internet unsupervised?

I hope that question was sarcastic.

In your case? It wasn't