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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:28
You know, a common sentiment is that overbalancing a single player game is foolish, but I think BG3 suffered a lot from careless balance. Why would a physical character ever not take the bard subclass that gives you a shitload of extra attacks with an extra short rest to immediately regenerate those free attacks? What does the other subclass do, give you an extra minor proficiency? Not to mention the couple of feats that feel mandatory out of a selection of dozens in a game where you're only getting 1-3. Yeah let me just spend my reaction to do 3 damage with a polearm instead of going first in every single encounter in the entire game regardless of my initiative roll.

Also I don't like all the gay and black and chinese people
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:28
You know, a common sentiment is that overbalancing a single player game is foolish, but I think BG3 suffered a lot from careless balance. Why would a physical character ever not take the bard subclass that gives you a shitload of extra attacks with an extra short rest to immediately regenerate those free attacks? What does the other subclass do, give you an extra minor proficiency? Not to mention the couple of feats that feel mandatory out of a selection of dozens in a game where you're only getting 1-3. Yeah let me just spend my reaction to do 3 damage with a polearm instead of going first in every single encounter in the entire game regardless of my initiative roll.

Also I don't like all the gay and black and chinese people
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
Are you trying the new difficulty options?
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:38
Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:28
You know, a common sentiment is that overbalancing a single player game is foolish, but I think BG3 suffered a lot from careless balance. Why would a physical character ever not take the bard subclass that gives you a shitload of extra attacks with an extra short rest to immediately regenerate those free attacks? What does the other subclass do, give you an extra minor proficiency? Not to mention the couple of feats that feel mandatory out of a selection of dozens in a game where you're only getting 1-3. Yeah let me just spend my reaction to do 3 damage with a polearm instead of going first in every single encounter in the entire game regardless of my initiative roll.

Also I don't like all the gay and black and chinese people
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
Are you trying the new difficulty options?
Nah I didn't really feel like fiddling with it. I'm fine with turning into an utter rapebeast annihilator.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
Difficulty is busted. Gameovered once I think in Act 1 and steamrolled the rest of the game. Barely had anyone dying in any fight ever. Max level by early Act 3. Even by Larian's standards this is a downgrade from their previous games.
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jaeleth wrote: ↑ January 19th, 2024, 15:07
NEG wrote: ↑ February 27th, 2023, 09:37
Isn't there only one black companion revealed so far?
Tecnhically 2... You can recruit a Dark Elf (Drow) female and then there is Wyll, the black son of a black Duke of Baldur's Gate. But then again, Laez'el is yellow(ish) with speckles and Karlach is a big, red, beautiful Tiefling woman (that would be BRBTW ;) )
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Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:28
You know, a common sentiment is that overbalancing a single player game is foolish, but I think BG3 suffered a lot from careless balance. Why would a physical character ever not take the bard subclass that gives you a shitload of extra attacks with an extra short rest to immediately regenerate those free attacks? What does the other subclass do, give you an extra minor proficiency? Not to mention the couple of feats that feel mandatory out of a selection of dozens in a game where you're only getting 1-3. Yeah let me just spend my reaction to do 3 damage with a polearm instead of going first in every single encounter in the entire game regardless of my initiative roll.

Also I don't like all the gay and black and chinese people
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
Game is really easy if you know your way arround things, even on honour mode there is even a youtuber who attempts to play through it using only Boo as a weapon and the other characters are just there for support.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:28
You know, a common sentiment is that overbalancing a single player game is foolish, but I think BG3 suffered a lot from careless balance. Why would a physical character ever not take the bard subclass that gives you a shitload of extra attacks with an extra short rest to immediately regenerate those free attacks? What does the other subclass do, give you an extra minor proficiency? Not to mention the couple of feats that feel mandatory out of a selection of dozens in a game where you're only getting 1-3. Yeah let me just spend my reaction to do 3 damage with a polearm instead of going first in every single encounter in the entire game regardless of my initiative roll.

Also I don't like all the gay and black and chinese people
That's also an issue in original BGs, so I don't mind much.

If anything I think Larian done a way better job in balancing classes, all of them feel fun and viable, even if there are the clear better choices (as there are in any game). In original BG, if you run a monk but aren't an expert of the game, you're in for a bad time...
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BobT wrote: ↑ February 18th, 2024, 05:20
Cohesion wrote: ↑ February 18th, 2024, 03:46
Nooneatall wrote: ↑ February 18th, 2024, 03:41


Someone who's never worked in software detected.
You are probably some kind of AGILE cultist PM dunking on engineers, dismissed.
Lol **** AGILE cultists. I'm sick of that ****.
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Still it doesn't matter whether the individual devs are lazy or the PMs / directors are *****, the company still decided to release half done stuff while wasting resources on woke **** instead.
I think people got confused about my comments because they are ******** ********.
I'm not saying it's good that software is like this, I'm just stating facts. Wishing that it was different doesn't pay my bills.
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Wow they managed to create something gayer and more meaningless than the normal video game awards.
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BG3 is the proof that even woketards can make a great game, if you are going to hire staff based on how many political points they bring to the table at least also take into account their actual skillset
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jebacdrkac wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 14:20
BG3 is the proof that even woketards can make a great game, if you are going hire staff based on how many political points they bring to the table at least also take into account their actual skillset
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No, its not. It was a good game before sweet baby got its hands on it. They were the ones adding all the faggotry.
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Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
That is one of the most broken class combinations in 5e, Larian's homebrew tweak just made it stronger.

Generally any class that can use the short rest spell slots to their maximum potential can be broken in half with 2-3 levels in warlock. The Coffeelock is unfortunately not possible in BG3 due to their short rest system.
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Lhynn wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 17:55
jebacdrkac wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 14:20
BG3 is the proof that even woketards can make a great game, if you are going hire staff based on how many political points they bring to the table at least also take into account their actual skillset
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No, its not. It was a good game before sweet baby got its hands on it. They were the ones adding all the faggotry.
Sweet baby sucks but they are not the boogeyman. Larian is the one who decided to go after them and opted to follow all their instructions. Blaming Sweet Baby is like blaming the pistol for the murder.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 20:02
Vergil wrote: ↑ February 21st, 2024, 07:31
I had some occasional difficulty problems on my first run but now it's pretty easy to completely break the game before you're out of act 1. I'm doing a Paladin/Warlock character and it's ********.
That is one of the most broken class combinations in 5e, Larian's homebrew tweak just made it stronger.

Generally any class that can use the short rest spell slots to their maximum potential can be broken in half with 2-3 levels in warlock. The Coffeelock is unfortunately not possible in BG3 due to their short rest system.
Bard is even more broken. Short rest mechanics don't really matter much due to how easy it is to long rest in the game. Even in the small portions where you can't long rest there's still always a way to long rest or a mechanic that simulates it.
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Anon wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 20:38
Lhynn wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 17:55
jebacdrkac wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 14:20
BG3 is the proof that even woketards can make a great game, if you are going hire staff based on how many political points they bring to the table at least also take into account their actual skillset
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No, its not. It was a good game before sweet baby got its hands on it. They were the ones adding all the faggotry.
Sweet baby sucks but they are not the boogeyman. Larian is the one who decided to go after them and opted to follow all their instructions. Blaming Sweet Baby is like blaming the pistol for the murder.
Depends if they were strong-armed late into dev by the IP owner or Tencent (owns a third of their company). I bet they get you when you're too balls-deep to back out.
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If I may say so, I kind of miss BG3 - that is, the Baldurs Gate 3 it should have been, without the inane wokeness, with a LOT better writing and without the iconic characters from the two first games. Oh well. I hope there is someone out there actually working on fixing this mess - the mods here are a great start, but a white Wyll won't change the story of the game, which is weak. Case in point: who here got rid of their worm in the head? No one? Yeah, part of the problem - there is no cure, which means there is no good ending, only red herrings scattered all over the place.
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BobT wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 22:08
Anon wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 20:38
Lhynn wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 17:55


No, its not. It was a good game before sweet baby got its hands on it. They were the ones adding all the faggotry.
Sweet baby sucks but they are not the boogeyman. Larian is the one who decided to go after them and opted to follow all their instructions. Blaming Sweet Baby is like blaming the pistol for the murder.
Depends if they were strong-armed late into dev by the IP owner or Tencent (owns a third of their company). I bet they get you when you're too balls-deep to back out.
It's all copium. 30% isn't enough to make demands, it was never revealed that WOTC done any alphabet politics demands to Larian (afaik), and Larian always was strong enough to hold their own. It's all on them, and their recent behavior towards increasing pandering shows it.
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Finished replaying DOS1. Was nice eventhough EE got major bugs Larian never fixed.

Started DOS2, local splitscreen as well. The game feels a lot more fun with people than when I played it solo years ago. It's also very well optimized while looking almost as good as BG3. I honestly forgot everything about the story and find it way better written than BG3 as well so far. It's still goofy Larian style in many places but it's at least consistent and occasionaly actually creative and the interaction choices and structure feels again more polished and refined than BG3.

At this point and after giving it more than a fair try and reading a lot about it, I'm actually convinced BG3 is and will remain an aborted hotchpotch of a game. Something obviously happened during development that forced them to change core story concepts and focuses and this is why it feels so poorly written, unbalanced and imho, unrefined at least in the right places.
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Memes made with zero self awareness
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Anon wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 20:38
Lhynn wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 17:55
jebacdrkac wrote: ↑ February 25th, 2024, 14:20
BG3 is the proof that even woketards can make a great game, if you are going hire staff based on how many political points they bring to the table at least also take into account their actual skillset
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No, its not. It was a good game before sweet baby got its hands on it. They were the ones adding all the faggotry.
Sweet baby sucks but they are not the boogeyman. Larian is the one who decided to go after them and opted to follow all their instructions. Blaming Sweet Baby is like blaming the pistol for the murder.
They needed the credit line.

Act 3 feels unfinished as is, I bet they went the sweet baby route to get a loan to finish this ****.
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If you were right that wouldn't justify them keeping pandering to the alphabet audience so long after game release.
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Their second request is for Larian to provide janitors for their Discord server and to write the rules for them?(???)
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Yeah that was very weird i dont understand but it triggered me for some reason. These folks acting like mindless sheeps or something.
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This has got to be peak mod author delusion. I'm sure the company will get right on making sure they have full transparency with all of their internal plans and ensure any update is carefully crafted to not break some ******'s piece of **** mod they're too lazy to take 5 mins to update when the game does.
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I don't see @orinEsque signature, I'm sure having one of the biggest modders signing it would bring a lot of credibility to their demands!