Clockwork Revolution (aka Arcanum 2) by InXile from former Troika devs

[maidenhaver]

You look in their eyes?

[Orvas Dren]

I hate the whimsical aspect of steampunk. Stupid, ugly, reddit.

That's just the masses getting ahold of it and making it le quirky like they do with everything else.

Strongest argument for caste systems

[Element]

Also, Arcanum had an actual ******** quest, and a quest about uncovering that vile je.. gnomish deep state that had all the royal women forcibly x bred with ogres out of sheer racial spite and hatred. Incredibly based. Even if this game had all the right aesthetics and music, it still would be far away from truly being a 'spiritual successor'

[Roguey]

Also, Arcanum had an actual ******** quest, and a quest about uncovering that vile je.. gnomish deep state that had all the royal women forcibly x bred with ogres out of sheer racial spite and hatred. Incredibly based. Even if this game had all the right aesthetics and music, it still would be far away from truly being a 'spiritual successor'

That quest was written by Leonard Boyarsky who is Jewish. It was a shitposting Jewish flex.

[Element]

Also, Arcanum had an actual ******** quest, and a quest about uncovering that vile je.. gnomish deep state that had all the royal women forcibly x bred with ogres out of sheer racial spite and hatred. Incredibly based. Even if this game had all the right aesthetics and music, it still would be far away from truly being a 'spiritual successor'

That quest was written by Leonard Boyarsky who is Jewish. It was a shitposting Jewish flex.

Think Boyarsky has significant east european ancestry, he even slipped up and said he's Russian in the big interview with Cain. Don't think that quest was consciously and deliberately planned out to be what it became.

[rusty_shackleford]

Also, Arcanum had an actual ******** quest, and a quest about uncovering that vile je.. gnomish deep state that had all the royal women forcibly x bred with ogres out of sheer racial spite and hatred. Incredibly based. Even if this game had all the right aesthetics and music, it still would be far away from truly being a 'spiritual successor'

That quest was written by Leonard Boyarsky who is Jewish. It was a shitposting Jewish flex.

proof?

Reminder that the writer for Arcanum was one Edward R. G. Mortimer, who was hired because he wrote for Judges guild.
Now go google 'judges guild controversy'.

[Roguey]

proof?

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I think people read anti-semitic things into it at one point because you know, unfortunately in fantasy, gnomes have big noses and are short and they like money - which didn't come from us and I don't know if that was racist when it first was was developed - but that's a fantasy thing but I thought you know first of all we didn't think that far into it and I did think about that though when I was developing the quest and I'm like you know what I have the perfect defense about that because I'm Jewish, so I can, because it's not meant it wasn't intended, but I did I did have in the back of my mind "I wonder if people are going to read this as some kind of weird conspiracy thing."

[Acrux]

That quotation doesn't back up your assertion that it was a flex, Roguey.

[rusty_shackleford]

proof?

Timestamped

I think people read anti-semitic things into it at one point because you know, unfortunately in fantasy, gnomes have big noses and are short and they like money - which didn't come from us and I don't know if that was racist when it first was was developed - but that's a fantasy thing but I thought you know first of all we didn't think that far into it and I did think about that though when I was developing the quest and I'm like you know what I have the perfect defense about that because I'm Jewish, so I can, because it's not meant it wasn't intended, but I did I did have in the back of my mind "I wonder if people are going to read this as some kind of weird conspiracy thing."

gnomes loving money is almost entirely unique to arcanum, that's one of the traits that stayed with dwarves in the dwarf/gnome split.

[KnightoftheWind]

You wouldn't see a jew working with Todd Howard back in the day, oh no. That's why Elder Scrolls will always be based, and Fallout was never good

[Anon]

nigpunk

This would be Phyre's design if Paradox hired former Troika devs to make VTMB 2 instead of TCR.

We can only conclude some people become more ******** as they get older.

[Element]

nigpunk

wen da wypipo fohget da seazunin

[Luckmann]

proof?

Timestamped

I think people read anti-semitic things into it at one point because you know, unfortunately in fantasy, gnomes have big noses and are short and they like money - which didn't come from us and I don't know if that was racist when it first was was developed - but that's a fantasy thing but I thought you know first of all we didn't think that far into it and I did think about that though when I was developing the quest and I'm like you know what I have the perfect defense about that because I'm Jewish, so I can, because it's not meant it wasn't intended, but I did I did have in the back of my mind "I wonder if people are going to read this as some kind of weird conspiracy thing."

You're making the classic mistake of taking a Jew at their word, here. There is absolutely no reason to think that he's actually being truthful to any meaningful degree.

[Rand]

How did we come to the bizarre idea that racism is bad?
Especially when literally every race is far more racist than whites (with orders of magnitude less justification to be, lol)?
Of course, it's a psyop. We all know why.

[Roguey]

You're making the classic mistake of taking a Jew at their word, here. There is absolutely no reason to think that he's actually being truthful to any meaningful degree.

Surely Timbo would correct him if he were saying something that didn't jibe with his memory, unless homosexuals are also mega-liars.

[Luckmann]

You're making the classic mistake of taking a Jew at their word, here. There is absolutely no reason to think that he's actually being truthful to any meaningful degree.

Surely Timbo would correct him if he were saying something that didn't jibe with his memory, unless homosexuals are also mega-liars.

They are, but that is really beside the point. This is easily explainable by him not knowing exactly who wrote what at any one time, or simply deferring to the memory or statements of his colleague. We also don't know the nature of any conversations that they have had regarding this prior, but we are well aware of Mortimer and the Judges' Guild, and the (seeming) fact that Mortimer never had (or wanted?) the opportunity to write for or work with these people again. We also know the potential career-ending reality of navigating this field in the face of modern redditdom.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

How did we come to the bizarre idea that racism is bad?
Especially when literally every race is far more racist than whites (with orders of magnitude less justification to be, lol)?
Of course, it's a psyop. We all know why.

I mean it’s not something people like having when it’s aim at them not to mention the negative effects it has in ones life.

[Rand]

If your country has racism, then the effects are limited to nothing at all as you're all the same race.
Racism saves lives and economies.
The reasons why are obvious, so I'm not gonna waste my time stating them.

[Roguey]

They are, but that is really beside the point. This is easily explainable by him not knowing exactly who wrote what at any one time, or simply deferring to the memory or statements of his colleague. We also don't know the nature of any conversations that they have had regarding this prior, but we are well aware of Mortimer and the Judges' Guild, and the (seeming) fact that Mortimer never had (or wanted?) the opportunity to write for or work with these people again. We also know the potential career-ending reality of navigating this field in the face of modern redditdom.

Tim kept detailed notes of every project he ever worked on and Arcanum was a small core team of 12 people with no leads, everyone having equal say, of course he knew who worked on what.

Tim's also in semi-retirement. His career is already in the process of ending.

[Acrux]

unless homosexuals are also mega-liars.

[Luckmann]

Tim kept detailed notes of every project he ever worked on

Cool, but irrelevant unless we have access to the notes and can be relatively sure that they haven't been sanitized.

and Arcanum was a small core team of 12 people with no leads,

So what you're saying is that the credits of the game is the liar here? Because I trust credits from the time more than I trust people with social nooses hanging over them today, 23 years later.

everyone having equal say,

Has never ever been true in any project for the entire history of mankind.

of course he knew who worked on what.

I don't think there's any reason to think so, and I would genuinely be incredibly impressed if they knew exactly who worked on every single facet of the game. There's also a big difference between having notes and having an eidetic memory regarding everyone involved in a project as to be able to immediately counter any and all statements with certainty, on the spot.

That said, I find it far more likely that they had an awareness of what they were talking about, and have discussed this prior, and have a vested interest - whether you consider that interest social or economical - in presenting it as well as they possibly can in order to avoid controversy.

Even if it wasn't a judeo-homosexual duo in the eight year of the great derangement, I'd still press the big X to doubt.

[Vergil]

How did we come to the bizarre idea that racism is bad?

It's the natural conclusion of liberal ideology.

[Roguey]

So what you're saying is that the credits of the game is the liar here? Because I trust credits from the time more than I trust people with social nooses hanging over them today, 23 years later.

Yes, Tim's had a good laugh at how mobygames decided to do it that way. Here's the credits as presented in the manual:


There were some dev diaries on RPGDot where they went into detail on what each person actually did. They all dabbled in multiple areas.

Has never ever been true in any project for the entire history of mankind.

It was an anarcho-communist experiment that ended in failure because they immediately went back to a traditional hierarchy for their next two games. Tim made a video about how he was seething because the other members of the team voted him out of design meetings because he was dominating them, and in return, he refused to code the feature they came up with in one of the meetings he was excluded from.

[ArcaneLurker]

How did we come to the bizarre idea that racism is bad?
Especially when literally every race is far more racist than whites (with orders of magnitude less justification to be, lol)?
Of course, it's a psyop. We all know why.

I mean it’s not something people like having when it’s aim at them not to mention the negative effects it has in ones life.

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

How did we come to the bizarre idea that racism is bad?
Especially when literally every race is far more racist than whites (with orders of magnitude less justification to be, lol)?
Of course, it's a psyop. We all know why.

I mean it’s not something people like having when it’s aim at them not to mention the negative effects it has in ones life.

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

I’m well aware that most people have some sort of racial prejudice towards differences races . However that doesn’t mean you should be racist to some random stranger on the street when they didn’t personally didn’t anything towards you.

[ArcaneLurker]

I mean it’s not something people like having when it’s aim at them not to mention the negative effects it has in ones life.

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

I’m well aware that most people have some sort of racial prejudice towards differences races . However that doesn’t mean you should be racist to some random stranger on the street when they didn’t personally didn’t anything towards you.

How the **** would I get anywhere with that mentality?
You wouldn't be able to deport invaders back to where they came from because "it wasn't intentional."

[A Chinese opium den]

I mean it’s not something people like having when it’s aim at them not to mention the negative effects it has in ones life.

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

I’m well aware that most people have some sort of racial prejudice towards differences races . However that doesn’t mean you should be racist to some random stranger on the street when they didn’t personally didn’t anything towards you.

Libtard.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

I’m well aware that most people have some sort of racial prejudice towards differences races . However that doesn’t mean you should be racist to some random stranger on the street when they didn’t personally didn’t anything towards you.

Libtard.

I mean I’m not ,but wherever.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Refusing to be racially prejudice just makes you weak, which prompts even more hatred. It doesn't prompt the others to reciprocate the potentially self-destructive act.

I’m well aware that most people have some sort of racial prejudice towards differences races . However that doesn’t mean you should be racist to some random stranger on the street when they didn’t personally didn’t anything towards you.

How the **** would I get anywhere with that mentality?
You wouldn't be able to deport invaders back to where they came from because "it wasn't intentional."

Can I ask what your solution would be to deport the “invaders”?

[Element]

Mortimer posted on the dex. He was not the one who wrote the quest, and did think that Boyarsky was indeed its writer.