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I might be alone in this but I always thought the celestial elephant "Valeria" in Act 3 had a man's voice but everyone calls it "her". A ****** elephant is a ridiculous idea but that's all I can see it as.
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RichardAngerer wrote: December 7th, 2023, 19:48
Not sure if I've installed the mod incorrectly but I get this screen when creating a new game on any difficulty.

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I just installed Mod Manager and some mods and got the same problem.

Download this and dump it in your mod folder. Fixed it for me.

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Thank you so much not only for the prompt response, but also for graciously providing a walkthrough, Orin! I really appreciate you taking the time for my niche request.

Can't wait to get off work so I can try out these steps. Though, admittedly it'll be quite a while before I even reach act 3, as I keep restarting my playthrough. :scratch: (I think after all these months, I've just been waiting for the right overhaul mods to come around and de-globohomo my game, lol.)
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Tamyn wrote: December 8th, 2023, 00:52
I might be alone in this but I always thought the celestial elephant "Valeria" in Act 3 had a man's voice but everyone calls it "her". A ****** elephant is a ridiculous idea but that's all I can see it as.
I can't tell if it's a ****** elephant or if it's meant to be a joke like, "this alien race sounds differently from how you expected"
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SniperChris wrote: December 8th, 2023, 02:22
Tamyn wrote: December 8th, 2023, 00:52
I might be alone in this but I always thought the celestial elephant "Valeria" in Act 3 had a man's voice but everyone calls it "her". A ****** elephant is a ridiculous idea but that's all I can see it as.
I can't tell if it's a ****** elephant or if it's meant to be a joke like, "this alien race sounds differently from how you expected"
:scratch: I'm not sure I care for non humanoid identities....
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gunbino wrote: November 1st, 2023, 18:44
Created an account just to follow your work and thank you. Will be buying the game once you've made some more progress. Let us know if there's a way to buy you a coffee/beer.
I too registered on this site just for this mod.

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orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2023, 02:35
SniperChris wrote: December 8th, 2023, 02:22
Tamyn wrote: December 8th, 2023, 00:52
I might be alone in this but I always thought the celestial elephant "Valeria" in Act 3 had a man's voice but everyone calls it "her". A ****** elephant is a ridiculous idea but that's all I can see it as.
I can't tell if it's a ****** elephant or if it's meant to be a joke like, "this alien race sounds differently from how you expected"
:scratch: I'm not sure I care for non humanoid identities....
Hollyphants have been a thing since First Edition, but I've always found them weird. And it's exceptionally weird when they just appear as like... random citizens of Baldur's Gate. "Yes, I'm a powerful, divine being from the upper planes... I'M ALSO AN ALCOHOLIC DETECTIVE :bounce: "

Just be a mythical monster.
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As much as I love their games, Larian did not shy away from their usual Larianisms. I imagine Valeria is meant to be part of their lolrandom reddit-bait content. "Isn't this such a kooky concept, guys? We're so wacky and zany!" See also: "Shovel." The mature story and characters are frequently marred by the immature content, creating unfortunate tonal dissonance. Thankfully most, if not all of it appears to be optional. I'd bet the writers responsible for the worst content have the most authority in the company, as you'll also find this style of content in their other games, from time to time. It's just particularly egregious in BG3.
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Aylin looks absolutely incredible with this really love to see all the work that has been put into this. Might actually not betray Aylin to that faggy wizard for once now.
I'm just stating the facts.
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The news about the mod made it to YouTube
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"this video is not anti-LGBTQ in any shape or form"
You best be believing in Havel's Greengrocer, kid, because you're living it.


RPGHQ is explicitly anti-whatever will make these people upset btw.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: December 8th, 2023, 08:59


The news about the mod made it to YouTube
Notice no one makes even a fraction of the amount of a stink with all the borderline and literally pedophillic mods that nexus allows on their platform let alone exist elsewhere.
I'm just stating the facts.
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Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2023, 09:20
Slavic Sorcerer wrote: December 8th, 2023, 08:59


The news about the mod made it to YouTube
Notice no one makes even a fraction of the amount of a stink with all the borderline and literally pedophillic mods that nexus allows on their platform let alone exist elsewhere.
I've been subbed to Clownfish for years. I suspect it's for monetary reasons. YT is weir with their monetization rules
The comments however raise a big stink about it
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Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2023, 09:20
Notice no one makes even a fraction of the amount of a stink with all the borderline and literally pedophillic mods that nexus allows on their platform let alone exist elsewhere.
...Did you expect the group that promotes grooming and drag queen story hour for little kids to be against such mods?

Anyway, about the mod:

Valeria is an odd case because we have no other hollyphants in-game to compare. The diary does mention that the only reason this flying ******* is even around is because the heavenly bureaucracy was getting sick of the constant complaining (Which turned out to be correct about Zariel at least. Hooray for lawful good incompetence!).

I don't think this... thing even has a non-human identity. Is it just the voice?

Forget it: On the forgotten realms wiki the entries for Lulu and Valeria are listed differently. Valeria is listed as "Gender Feminine" and Lulu as "Sex Female".

So it's supposed to be a celestial ****** and apparently our group (who never met this thing before) somehow knows this and calls him "she" despite him having a voice like a 40 year old chain smoker.
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orinEsque wrote: December 7th, 2023, 20:28
I may have made this mod, but I got nothing against Alphabets. I just don't think there would be openly LGBTQ people in that era. And yes even in this era most people don't go out of their way to tell you who they are ******* in real life with the first sentence they speak. I don't want a nokia 360 ringing in the middle of a sword and magic fantasy, unless it is SPECIFICALLY an isekai
It's all about world building, and whether or not it stands on it's legs.

I would have no issue by default with a work of fiction, game or otherwise, depicting a society where homosexuality is the norm as long as it has a solid base of lore and world building to support it.

The issue here is that it is forced on pre-existing material that never laid those bases to begin with, hence why it feels so forced and jarring and destroys immersion and the illusion of a believable world. Which is simply the single most basic important premise for a good story/RPG.

None of them would ever admit it but I guarantee the writers themselves feel awkward about it, because they must know intimately what they're doing is objectively bad writing.

Yet again and again you see old franchises like DnD get forced updates to the current progressive trends. But you never see new franchises being created with those concepts as fundamental foundations.
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Envergence wrote: December 8th, 2023, 04:52
As much as I love their games, Larian did not shy away from their usual Larianisms. I imagine Valeria is meant to be part of their lolrandom reddit-bait content. "Isn't this such a kooky concept, guys? We're so wacky and zany!" See also: "Shovel." The mature story and characters are frequently marred by the immature content, creating unfortunate tonal dissonance. Thankfully most, if not all of it appears to be optional. I'd bet the writers responsible for the worst content have the most authority in the company, as you'll also find this style of content in their other games, from time to time. It's just particularly egregious in BG3.
Larian were always mediocre writers at best tbh.
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Slavic Sorcerer wrote: December 8th, 2023, 08:59


The news about the mod made it to YouTube
so why i don't see the same amount of hate for mods like Femstarion? or it's okay to genderbent just male characters because men are trash and all that?

or better yet, what about mods giving Shadowheart and Karlach dicks? according to twittards own logic, these characters are now fully functioning manly men with testosterone running down their veins. so... it literally means we got another mod (MULTIPLE mods(!!!)) that dared to change gender of "fan favorite lesbians" and now deserves its own spotlight. where's video about that, Clownfish?
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SoLong wrote: December 8th, 2023, 09:32
Vergil wrote: December 8th, 2023, 09:20
Notice no one makes even a fraction of the amount of a stink with all the borderline and literally pedophillic mods that nexus allows on their platform let alone exist elsewhere.
...Did you expect the group that promotes grooming and drag queen story hour for little kids to be against such mods?

Anyway, about the mod:

Valeria is an odd case because we have no other hollyphants in-game to compare. The diary does mention that the only reason this flying ******* is even around is because the heavenly bureaucracy was getting sick of the constant complaining (Which turned out to be correct about Zariel at least. Hooray for lawful good incompetence!).

I don't think this... thing even has a non-human identity. Is it just the voice?

Forget it: On the forgotten realms wiki the entries for Lulu and Valeria are listed differently. Valeria is listed as "Gender Feminine" and Lulu as "Sex Female".

So it's supposed to be a celestial ****** and apparently our group (who never met this thing before) somehow knows this and calls him "she" despite him having a voice like a 40 year old chain smoker.
If this weren't so disturbing, it might've actually been funny. What a crazy world we live in... Now let's all respect the pronouns of the talking elephant folks.
:groan:
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orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2023, 01:01
Restore Looks:
  • Delete nocturne.lsf from "NoAlphabetAesthetics\Public\NoAlphabetAesthetics\Content\[PAK]_CharacterVisuals" folder
I realize you know significantly more than me when it comes to modding but isn't nocturne.lsf the part that controls the visuals for the tiefling in Shar's House of Grief? Or was Sebastian originally named Nocturne?
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Thanks a lot for this mod! Is it possible to extract .pak files and install them loosely ?
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Hi, mee again. Currently playing trough Act 3 again and i‘ve seen a little bug where Nafula, the Daughter from the Mermaid‘s bar and her father have a bit of a mix uo. Nafula calls her lover Sandra (i think that was the name) whilst the dialogue says „Sasha“. Meanwhile the father says „the son?!“ while the text says „the daughter“. Just a small bug, but also not sure if it’s just me
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0Salmonella0 wrote: December 8th, 2023, 18:23
Hi, mee again. Currently playing trough Act 3 again and i‘ve seen a little bug where Nafula, the Daughter from the Mermaid‘s bar and her father have a bit of a mix uo. Nafula calls her lover Sandra (i think that was the name) whilst the dialogue says „Sasha“. Meanwhile the father says „the son?!“ while the text says „the daughter“. Just a small bug, but also not sure if it’s just me
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SoLong wrote: December 8th, 2023, 11:02
orinEsque wrote: December 8th, 2023, 01:01
Restore Looks:
  • Delete nocturne.lsf from "NoAlphabetAesthetics\Public\NoAlphabetAesthetics\Content\[PAK]_CharacterVisuals" folder
I realize you know significantly more than me when it comes to modding but isn't nocturne.lsf the part that controls the visuals for the tiefling in Shar's House of Grief? Or was Sebastian originally named Nocturne?
Oops! that was a typo!
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The amount of oversights is just proof for anyone saying "there's barely any LGBT content!"
Feels like there's more gay couples than straight.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2023, 20:23
The amount of oversights is just proof for anyone saying "there's barely any LGBT content!"
Feels like there's more gay couples than straight.
There are, i‘ve counted (well, the ones i‘ve found in my one playtrough so far)
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SoLong wrote: December 8th, 2023, 19:46
0Salmonella0 wrote: December 8th, 2023, 18:23
Hi, mee again. Currently playing trough Act 3 again and i‘ve seen a little bug where Nafula, the Daughter from the Mermaid‘s bar and her father have a bit of a mix uo. Nafula calls her lover Sandra (i think that was the name) whilst the dialogue says „Sasha“. Meanwhile the father says „the son?!“ while the text says „the daughter“. Just a small bug, but also not sure if it’s just me
You might want to ping orinEsque (like this @orinEsque ) so that your bug report isn't lost in the replies.

Oh, sorry, thank you
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0Salmonella0 wrote: December 8th, 2023, 20:41
There are, i‘ve counted (well, the ones i‘ve found in my one playtrough so far)
Yeah, I stopped counting at 15 and just renamed the game Baldur's Gay. Lot of references to them as well in notes and such.
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The people who bought me those beer, thank you! 😘

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I created a subforum specifically for reporting issues/support requests, FYI. @orinEsque is a moderator of it.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: December 8th, 2023, 23:04
I created a subforum specifically for reporting issues/support requests, FYI. @orinEsque is a moderator of it.
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