Various tabletop stuff not deserving its own thread

[Trickster]

- Flannae - Negroes.

Funny skulls, big lips, or dreadlocks are never even mentioned. Instead, they’re described as having chestnut hair and coppery skin and those mixed with the Wolf Nomads even have golden skin. It evokes the image of Native Americans, as you mentioned below.
PS: Find cool art of a Flan Ranger that perfectly shows what I imagine.

Mmm, so the great war that destroyed the Great Kingdom as a hegemon and gave rise to lesser petty kingdoms, duchies, marchlands, and principalities is something that was added to the lore after Gygax was no longer in charge of it.

This is quite interesting. I should've known that the Gazetteer I currently have - which was published in the 3.5 era - wouldn't openly mention that the current scene of the setting was created against the wishes of the one who created said setting.

**** like that is perfectly fine in your own campaign or your personal version of the setting, but it should never be treated as a given without the author's permission. But WotC being WotC, I guess.

[Trickster]

Also, I've checked the map and... Is there explanation of why Greyhawk isn't superpower yet?

I don't know for sure, but the book I'm reading says they lost their territories from Hardby to the Nyr Dyv. It doesn't mention how. Maybe it's somehow tied to the castle's curse and the disappearance of the Mage-King. But maybe not.

The thing is, the Shield Lands, which are zones supposedly controlled by the Order of Knights who are meant to bring law and order to the region and protect Greyhawk's northern flank, constantly get their asses handed to them by bandits and the Horned Society (the local chaotic-evil shitheads who worship demons). And since those knights are failing so miserably, the Bandit Kingdoms and all sorts of seafaring ******* crews could easily bypass them and attack across the Nyr Dyv, assuming there's no one else there to protect the waters.

But overall, yeah. The city has massive potential. Make Greyhawk Great Again is inevitable!

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Mmm, so the great war that destroyed the Great Kingdom as a hegemon and gave rise to lesser petty kingdoms, duchies, marchlands, and principalities is something that was added to the lore after Gygax was no longer in charge of it.

Was it? 1983 edition already has orbital bombardment and p.10 has description of a decline of Rax-Nyrond war and subsequent decline. Not sure whether you reference it.

Funny skulls, big lips, or dreadlocks are never even mentioned.

Most negroes don't have them. US ******* are negro minority. And negroes are pretty (god forbid) diverse in appearance.
E.g. many Masai have facial structure similar to Caucasians.
Look, here're your Flan rangers. Second to the right even has an Armenian nose.

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But overall, yeah. The city has massive potential. Make Greyhawk Great Again is inevitable!

Yeah. Judging from the postmortem above, I think GG began with adding a bunch of easy transport routes from Greyhawk, went overboard with them and had to spam fragmented warring factions to compensate. Also, there's probably some magic explanation for why slightly stronger faction doesn't domino steamroll over all the others.

[UltraFan123]

Mmm, so the great war that destroyed the Great Kingdom as a hegemon and gave rise to lesser petty kingdoms, duchies, marchlands, and principalities is something that was added to the lore after Gygax was no longer in charge of it.

Was it? 1983 edition already has orbital bombardment and p.10 has description of a decline of Rax-Nyrond war and subsequent decline. Not sure whether you reference it.

Tbh, I saw that quote about Gygax disapproving the fact that his setting was being tempered with by "wiping the state clean" and making lots of changes, and since I have yet to get myself the 1e Greyhawk sourcebook, I assumed that the fall of the Great Kingdom and subsequent decline was the change Gygax was talking about.

So for me to be fully certain I will get myself the original sourcebook to compare it with the 3.5 Gazetteer.

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Tbh, I saw that quote about Gygax disapproving the fact that his setting was being tempered with by "wiping the state clean" and making lots of changes,
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So for me to be fully certain I will get myself the original sourcebook to compare it with the 3.5 Gazetteer.

IIRC he was referencing the WOTC reboot that was published in the beginning of 2000s (with DnD3?), flopped and was abandoned.
I've skimmed through few pages of (probably the latest) edition, and it looked very much like original. The only thing I've noticed is that they've added gipsy-looking race.

[Rand]

- Baklunish - American Indians.

More like central/eastern Eurasian plainsmen, like the Tartars or the Mongols, but more civilized.

[Kalarion]

**** like that is perfectly fine in your own campaign or your personal version of the setting, but it should never be treated as a given without the author's permission. But WotC being WotC, I guess.

Death of the Author is good when my friends do it actually. Always take what your enemy tries to do and make it yours or subvert it whenever possible.

**** take from a **** account. YWNBAH. Get out.

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- Baklunish - American Indians.

More like central/eastern Eurasian plainsmen, like the Tartars or the Mongols, but more civilized.

Yeah, that's where I've missed the most. According to GG,

The Bakluni ʺraceʺ was meant to suggest the Asian, combining the Near East and Central Asia.

So, basically, idealised Persians, Aladdin-Jasmine galore. GG probably got an idea of "colorless fire" orbital bombardment by combining fire cults and sky cults that were prominent in the region before Islam.

[Trickster]

**** like that is perfectly fine in your own campaign or your personal version of the setting, but it should never be treated as a given without the author's permission. But WotC being WotC, I guess.

Death of the Author is good when my friends do it actually. Always take what your enemy tries to do and make it yours or subvert it whenever possible.

**** take from a **** account. YWNBAH. Get out.

And? Why did you post this pretentious, stupid reddit-tier ******** like it's some kind of super wisdom, you pathetic **********? Do you even have a single clue what the conversation is about here? No? Then why the **** are you chiming in? **** off, and take your@dickrider @friends with you.

[Tangerine]

**** like that is perfectly fine in your own campaign or your personal version of the setting, but it should never be treated as a given without the author's permission. But WotC being WotC, I guess.

Death of the Author is good when my friends do it actually. Always take what your enemy tries to do and make it yours or subvert it whenever possible.

**** take from a **** account. YWNBAH. Get out.

And? Why did you post this pretentious, stupid reddit-tier ******** like it's some kind of super wisdom, you pathetic **********? Do you even have a single clue what the conversation is about here? No? Then why the **** are you chiming in? **** off, and take your@dickrider @friends with you.

I'd think a man into cuckoldry like you would appreciate a man taking something that isn't his.

[Trickster]

Death of the Author is good when my friends do it actually. Always take what your enemy tries to do and make it yours or subvert it whenever possible.

**** take from a **** account. YWNBAH. Get out.

And? Why did you post this pretentious, stupid reddit-tier ******** like it's some kind of super wisdom, you pathetic **********? Do you even have a single clue what the conversation is about here? No? Then why the **** are you chiming in? **** off, and take your@dickrider @friends with you.

I'd think a man into cuckoldry like you would appreciate a man taking something that isn't his.

I'm into beating the **** out of your ***** mom for a bad blowjob. Cuckolding is your thing, my little *****. Which you proved in a thread earlier, "defending" the companions' right to "romance" someone other than the player character.

[King Crispy]

My Mage has 18 levels of Dwarf!

Are most DnD players FAKING it?

[rusty_shackleford]

My Mage has 18 levels of Dwarf!

Are most DnD players FAKING it?

It was a big thing around the time bg3 came out but there were a ton of articles form 5e pnp players crying about how hard bg3 is, i.e., they just cheat at tabletop and didn't even know the rules.

[Acrux]

The survey looks sloppily done. That said, I was talking with some guys at work about D&D once and this woman we worked with inserted herself into the conversation and told us about how she'd played D&D with her husband and his friends. It turned out she'd played some boardgame that had light rpg elements. It may have even been that D&D boardgame that came iut a few years ago. The point is, normies have a very different perspective on what rpgs are so I'm not surprised by the results.

[King Crispy]

She played Settlers of Catan and thought it was D&D.

[UltraFan123]

DnD died when it stopped being a wargame in favor of being a stage for theater kids.

The OG 1st edition was basically Chainmail with magic and fantasy monsters. And while I'm aware that 3.5 gets clowned here, at the very least that edition had the Miniatures Handbook and Heroes of Battle supplements that were all about running a militaristic campaign and added extra appropriate classes alongside mass army battle rules.

I reckon that no similar effort to encourage true wargaming has been made by WotC since 4e.

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DnD died when it stopped being a wargame in favor of being a stage for theater kids.

The OG 1st edition was basically Chainmail with magic and fantasy monsters. And while I'm aware that 3.5 gets clowned here, at the very least that edition had the Miniatures Handbook and Heroes of Battle supplements that were all about running a militaristic campaign and added extra appropriate classes alongside mass army battle rules.

I reckon that no similar effort to encourage true wargaming has been made by WotC since 4e.

I.E. it died when Critical Role got ahold of it.

[Rand]

I, long ago, came to agree with the Gygaxian idea that the players don't need to know the rules, and it's better if they don't in a lot of cases.
(Of course, I used to play GURPS, and that rules-set is not for midwits and below, so I could run it how I wanted because I was usually one of the few at the table smart enough to fully understand and remember them)

Now, this is a bit of a more widely held belief, but for people like that Critical Role fingernail-painting ****** Matt Mercer, they want that so they can change rules on the fly so **** fits their railroaded table-larping ******** sessions.
I like it because it allows me greater latitude in proper simulationism. I can respond to players' unusual requests for actions with homebrew without getting into an argument with the R.A.W. pedants.
(Who seem to often "forget" rules and don't mention them when it is favorable for the GM to not use them on their character/party...)

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