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UnfairTradeCoffee wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 11:18
orinEsque wrote: ↑ October 29th, 2023, 17:48
"No Alphabets" mod pack makes sure that all citizens, especially children
I'm sorry what? Did you say CHILDREN? Can someone give a short example of this???


I just made an account here to thank you for all your hard work. :salute: I have yet to aquire the game, as any game that features a scholar on the front cover naturally makes me apprehensive about even playing the game, let alone purchasing it. Based on the existence of your efforts and better aethetics mod, it appears my concerns are not unfounded.
E g. A little boy, sounds like a boy, acts like a boy but has ginger braids and freckles like a girl. I just changed his face and hair to match his boy voice. I found three ***** looking kids in total. Nothing mentions they are ***** just the hairstyle and gender that they are called doesn't match

The wokeness in the game isn't that bad. Mild compared to other games. You can tell from the list. Pathfinder would take an essay long list imo.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 12:03
E g. A little boy, sounds like a boy, acts like a boy but has ginger braids and freckles like a girl. I just changed his face and hair to match his boy voice. I found three ***** looking kids in total. Nothing mentions they are ***** just the hairstyle and gender that they are called doesn't match

The wokeness in the game isn't that bad. Mild compared to other games. You can tell from the list. Pathfinder would take an essay long list imo.
Ew. I never saw that in game.

In all fairness though, boys have freckles too. The braids are... eyebrow raising though, depending on hairstyle.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 19:38
boys have freckles too.
I know. But the whole appearance together obviously screamed GIRL! But it was very obviously a boy speaking. You can check the two kids at the fountain outside Sorcerer's Sundry. Its blatantly obvious what they were going for.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 19:51
SoLong wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 19:38
boys have freckles too.
I know. But the whole appearance together obviously screamed GIRL! But it was very obviously a boy speaking. You can check the two kids at the fountain outside Sorcerer's Sundry. Its blatantly obvious what they were going for.
Ok, I had to look into this one because even I didn't believe they'd do something this strange. It's a young Asian girl, named Ch'kk'ch, with red hair and blue eyes, a deep Cockney boy's accent, and a man's shirt unbuttoned down to her navel. To make things even weirder, her white human mother is also standing there and looks nothing like her. I have to assume this was some randomized appearance fuckery.

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Edit: wait, no, that's the mother of a different ****** up kid I guess?
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What's stranger is that the voice actor for Ch'kk'ch is female (I was bored and looked it up). They used a female VA for a girl who dresses like an adult male but sounds like a boy.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 19:51
I know. But the whole appearance together obviously screamed GIRL! But it was very obviously a boy speaking. You can check the two kids at the fountain outside Sorcerer's Sundry. Its blatantly obvious what they were going for.
Just checked. Ew.

And yes, it is always, always incredibly in your face. Because if any of these ******** were actually passing then you wouldn't notice and a sane (relatively speaking) person wouldn't start a conversation with "Did I mention that I used to have a ****?".

So even fictional worlds with state of the art medical technology and ******* magic somehow has these gender freaks running around. Because it's the only way to have RePrEsEaNtAtiOn.
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gunbino wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 21:32
What's stranger is that the voice actor for Ch'kk'ch is female (I was bored and looked it up). They used a female VA for a girl who dresses like an adult male but sounds like a boy.
I don't wanna sound like a contrarian, but Bart Simpson is voiced by a woman. Voice actors do things like that.

Don't take my sentence as endorsement for any alphabet shenanigans. Just pointing out we as humans can do remarkable things, if needed.
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Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 20:16
To make things even weirder, her white human mother is also standing there and looks nothing like her.
okay game devs, serious talk, what the actual **** is wrong with your (accidental) infidelity propaganda in video games? nobody ******* thinks **** like "awww they adopted a kid of a different race" or "they tooootally had that one non-white ancestor ten generations ago" after seeing dumbfuckery of THAT caliber.

btw am i the only one who thinks Thaniel needs some de-asian-ing? he's a forest spirit in a european fantasy setting. why in the hells they made him look like he's about to start his own boyband?

and we all know the real deal behind the mismatched haircuts. we're not gonna protect ***** kids, we're gonna protect kids per se, WotC. boys can wear long hair and pigtails without your reinforced sterotypes and pedos selling puberty blockers.
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CheesusCrust wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 23:38
boys can wear long hair and pigtails
No they can't.
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CheesusCrust wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 23:38
Oyster Sauce wrote: ↑ November 9th, 2023, 20:16
To make things even weirder, her white human mother is also standing there and looks nothing like her.
okay game devs, serious talk, what the actual **** is wrong with your (accidental) infidelity propaganda in video games? nobody ******* thinks **** like "awww they adopted a kid of a different race" or "they tooootally had that one non-white ancestor ten generations ago" after seeing dumbfuckery of THAT caliber.

btw am i the only one who thinks Thaniel needs some de-asian-ing? he's a forest spirit in a european fantasy setting. why in the hells they made him look like he's about to start his own boyband?

and we all know the real deal behind the mismatched haircuts. we're not gonna protect ***** kids, we're gonna protect kids per se, WotC. boys can wear long hair and pigtails without your reinforced sterotypes and pedos selling puberty blockers.
He doesn't look that asian to me. His non asian features more obvious in his tainted form as well. His eyes are blue to begin with. You getting waaay too sensitive.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:29
Also I think there was some kind of mention that the party members are all playersexual anyway regardless of whether you're playing as a guy or girl
This is an absolute ********, because my character is obviously male and if a male companion flirts with him, it just makes him a fgt. Not "playersexual". Stop using this as an excuses, like if it makes it "ok". Especially in this game it's ridiculous, companions are absolutely starting to flirt with my character, I don't ever get a chance to avoid this completely -- it WILL happen. I can only say no to actual romance, but it's not enough.

What was that mod that removes same sex relationships on nexus? The one that blocks same-sex attitude towards the player growing? I've seen it, doubt it works perfectly, saw some complains about it not working quite often. Also I doubt that a woke shithole such as nexus would host such a mod that specifically harms their beloved rainbow filth.
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True_Way wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 00:38
SoLong wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:29
Also I think there was some kind of mention that the party members are all playersexual anyway regardless of whether you're playing as a guy or girl
This is an absolute ********, because my character is obviously male and if a male companion flirts with him, it just makes him a fgt. Not "playersexual". Stop using this as an excuses, like if it makes it "ok". Especially in this game it's ridiculous, companions are absolutely starting to flirt with my character, I don't ever get a chance to avoid this completely -- it WILL happen. I can only say no to actual romance, but it's not enough.

What was that mod that removes same sex relationships on nexus? The one that blocks same-sex attitude towards the player growing? I've seen it, doubt it works perfectly, saw some complains about it not working quite often. Also I doubt that a woke shithole such as nexus would host such a mod that specifically harms their beloved rainbow filth.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/815

Apparently its impossible to have same sex best buddy anymore.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:29
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:03
Right. I'll play a bit more and get to that area and then change him. I like to think of my Astarion as a perfectly straight but flamboyant man who only has eyes for my pc. I actually need a snippet of Sebastian's dialogue to find his voice lines.
Here you go.

"You taught me how. And then you destroyed me."

Also I think there was some kind of mention that the party members are all playersexual anyway regardless of whether you're playing as a guy or girl. So it's not like Astarion's victim #123 has any overt plot relevance.

This section of the game really annoyed me though.
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Sebastian's got 88 lines and a lot of breathy crybaby nonsense that AI struggles with. Do we have a female crybaby with a lot of lines somewhere? Gonna be difficult turning this guy to female. Doesn't seem worth the effort unfortunately.
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True_Way wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 00:38
SoLong wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:29
Also I think there was some kind of mention that the party members are all playersexual anyway regardless of whether you're playing as a guy or girl
This is an absolute ********, because my character is obviously male and if a male companion flirts with him, it just makes him a fgt. Not "playersexual". Stop using this as an excuses, like if it makes it "ok". Especially in this game it's ridiculous, companions are absolutely starting to flirt with my character, I don't ever get a chance to avoid this completely -- it WILL happen. I can only say no to actual romance, but it's not enough.

What was that mod that removes same sex relationships on nexus? The one that blocks same-sex attitude towards the player growing? I've seen it, doubt it works perfectly, saw some complains about it not working quite often. Also I doubt that a woke shithole such as nexus would host such a mod that specifically harms their beloved rainbow filth.
The women & **** responsible for "playersexual" companions don't realize how much this destroys any sense of male camaraderie. They've essentially killed every male companion for non-gay males.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 03:51
True_Way wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 00:38
SoLong wrote: ↑ November 8th, 2023, 20:29
Also I think there was some kind of mention that the party members are all playersexual anyway regardless of whether you're playing as a guy or girl
This is an absolute ********, because my character is obviously male and if a male companion flirts with him, it just makes him a fgt. Not "playersexual". Stop using this as an excuses, like if it makes it "ok". Especially in this game it's ridiculous, companions are absolutely starting to flirt with my character, I don't ever get a chance to avoid this completely -- it WILL happen. I can only say no to actual romance, but it's not enough.

What was that mod that removes same sex relationships on nexus? The one that blocks same-sex attitude towards the player growing? I've seen it, doubt it works perfectly, saw some complains about it not working quite often. Also I doubt that a woke shithole such as nexus would host such a mod that specifically harms their beloved rainbow filth.
The women & **** responsible for "playersexual" companions don't realize how much this destroys any sense of male camaraderie. They've essentially killed every male companion for non-gay males.
They should have been more assertive with companions being straight or not with an optional dlc to have every companion romanceable. Gale and wyll being gay make no sense to their character. Halsin was a last minute shoein for thirsty players and astarion is the obligatory bi thief you see in every crpg.
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True_Way wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 00:38
This is an absolute ********, because my character is obviously male and if a male companion flirts with him, it just makes him a fgt. Not "playersexual". Stop using this as an excuses, like if it makes it "ok". Especially in this game it's ridiculous, companions are absolutely starting to flirt with my character, I don't ever get a chance to avoid this completely -- it WILL happen. I can only say no to actual romance, but it's not enough.
You realize that the way games are programmed it's actually easier to do this right? That's not an excuse, it's programmers and gamedevs realizing "Wait a minute, so if we DON'T check the player avatars' gender and have the NPCs flirt with them regardless of whether they're male or female we have to write less code AND get progressive brownie points? Sold!". BG3 has an issue (even acknowledged on reddit of all places) where companions start flirting with you for no reason. (Gale being the prime offender here.) They way it's supposed to work is that they don't unless you take the first step. Unfortunately it seems the gamedevs have beer goggles on and even the most innocent remark risks tripping a romance flag.

This is separate to the incredibly creepy ****** kids orinEsque found in the game. Those take more effort to put in and are just there to virtue signal. Same with the incredibly ugly vitiligo githyanki and other gender specials (I'm excluding the drag queen in the circus. A circus is supposed to be full of freaks.)
True_Way wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 00:38
What was that mod that removes same sex relationships on nexus? The one that blocks same-sex attitude towards the player growing? I've seen it, doubt it works perfectly, saw some complains about it not working quite often. Also I doubt that a woke shithole such as nexus would host such a mod that specifically harms their beloved rainbow filth.
There is a mod that stops all relationships growing period. I don't think there is one targeted at just men or just women. Please remember that nexus removes everything they perceive as not worshipful of the sacred minorities.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 03:51
The women & **** responsible for "playersexual" companions don't realize how much this destroys any sense of male camaraderie. They've essentially killed every male companion for non-gay males.
That's actually true. Last decently written male character you could be just friends with in a Bioware game was Alistair I believe. Oghren was fun too though. Coincidentally this was also the last game where bisexual companions were the exception rather than the rule.

And I just made myself sad because I realized that I can still recall the character names of the first name but barely any of the other games' characters. Except Inquisition but that might be because it's more recent?
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 04:01
They should have been more assertive with companions being straight or not with an optional dlc to have every companion romanceable. Gale and wyll being gay make no sense to their character. Halsin was a last minute shoein for degenerates and astarion is the obligatory bi thief you see in ******* crpg.
Yeah, they should. Honestly Wyll might be the most boring character in any recent game I ever played. I think they were so scared to have the black guy show any kind of flaw that he turned into some kind of borderline Rey character. Luckily he's not the protagonist (unless you pick him as an Origin and ew, why would you?).

Halsin was put in for multiple reasons according to the devs. Your reason (reddit was ridiculously horny for the buff elf), the fact that the scrapped compaion Helia would take too much time to put in and the fact that Halsin's involvement in the plot meant you only had to do a few (very few :groan:) things in Act 3 to change him from a camp follower to a companion.

So it's more extreme laziness combined with bad time management.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 08:59
Honestly Wyll might be the most boring character in any recent game I ever played. I think they were so scared to have the black guy show any kind of flaw that he turned into some kind of borderline Rey character. Luckily he's not the protagonist (unless you pick him as an Origin and ew, why would you?).
i'm reading this and the second after nexus posts a mod that makes wyll *****... xDDD this is gold gentlemen
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CheesusCrust wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 14:10
SoLong wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 08:59
Honestly Wyll might be the most boring character in any recent game I ever played. I think they were so scared to have the black guy show any kind of flaw that he turned into some kind of borderline Rey character. Luckily he's not the protagonist (unless you pick him as an Origin and ew, why would you?).
i'm reading this and the second after nexus posts a mod that makes wyll *****... xDDD this is gold gentlemen
Holy ****. It's real. Well, eunuch Wyll fits his writing perfectly since he was already dickless, harmless, and a domesticated house negro for the prog brain rot.
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@orinEsque there's that Keren npc, the animal tamer in the circus of the last days with extremely low voice that doesn't match her appearance. at the same time, the voice doesn't sound fitting enough for a dude either (i guess??), anything you can do with the AI magic about it?
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CheesusCrust wrote: ↑ November 10th, 2023, 19:04
@orinEsque there's that Keren npc, the animal tamer in the circus of the last days with extremely low voice that doesn't match her appearance. at the same time, the voice doesn't sound fitting enough for a dude either (i guess??), anything you can do with the AI magic about it?
Oh a transgender in a circus? I'll leave him be
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  • Tamia Holtz at the Foundry mentions a "niece" and "son" instead of a wife (L) and a husband (G). Your conversation with her has been altered to match.
  • Clovia Throaks at Elfsong Tavern no longer mentions her darling Tamia. Blarson Throaks will call his wife's lover a "*******" instead of minx.
  • Quelenna in act 1 carries a love letter from Alexander.

I wanted to change Sebastian, but the voices I have trained come from female NPCs that don't have many "crying" and "whining" voice lines, so the AI is coming up with garble. There's 88 lines as well. Tough that one. Will have to skip him for now.

Pretty much cleared my list of lesser NPCs now. Enjoy!
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 11th, 2023, 04:15
I wanted to change Sebastian, but the voices I have trained come from female NPCs that don't have many "crying" and "whining" voice lines, so the AI is coming up with garble. There's 88 lines as well. Tough that one. Will have to skip him for now.
It's probably pointless to ask but did you use Mayrina in your example? She's incredibly whiny in my opinion.
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SoLong wrote: ↑ November 11th, 2023, 13:44
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 11th, 2023, 04:15
I wanted to change Sebastian, but the voices I have trained come from female NPCs that don't have many "crying" and "whining" voice lines, so the AI is coming up with garble. There's 88 lines as well. Tough that one. Will have to skip him for now.
It's probably pointless to ask but did you use Mayrina in your example? She's incredibly whiny in my opinion.
I'll check it out, I'll also retrain Aylin with some of her distressed lines and see how that works. This AI stuff really is a lot of fun.
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I was about to change some of the hirelings, but patch 4 lets you change their appearance completely. Nice.
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 03:37
I was about to change some of the hirelings, but patch 4 lets you change their appearance completely. Nice.
Yeah, the fact that this was not included at release was real odd. Not even sure why that didn't happen. Seems like common sense.
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The_Mask wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 03:58
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 03:37
I was about to change some of the hirelings, but patch 4 lets you change their appearance completely. Nice.
Yeah, the fact that this was not included at release was real odd. Not even sure why that didn't happen. Seems like common sense.
You mean the wokeness of the roster being a ESG box ticker wasn't obvious?
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orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 04:10
The_Mask wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 03:58
orinEsque wrote: ↑ November 12th, 2023, 03:37
I was about to change some of the hirelings, but patch 4 lets you change their appearance completely. Nice.
Yeah, the fact that this was not included at release was real odd. Not even sure why that didn't happen. Seems like common sense.
You mean the wokeness of the roster being a ESG box ticker wasn't obvious?
But we still cannot change race or sex, at least we can get rid of the barbarian dwarf's beard, which is pretty disgusting. Yeah I know, in Tolkien lore blabla, I'm don't dumb about the agenda.