Various role-playing RPG game stuff not deserving its own thread

[J1M]

eldritchknight

I did say other attempts.

Forgot that Pathfinder decided the Magus would be a Gish class. I could live with that if it became popular. I'd also be okay if "Gish" ended up in a PHB some day, even though the etymology and phonesthetics of the word leave something to be desired.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/

But what's wrong with eldritch knight?

It's not terrible, I just think it could be better. Similar to how we don't use the terms "Fighting-man" or "Magic user" anymore.

Plus it opens the door to "dragon knight", "rune knight", "wild knight", ad infinitum.

[rusty_shackleford]

I did say other attempts.

Forgot that Pathfinder decided the Magus would be a Gish class. I could live with that if it became popular. I'd also be okay if "Gish" ended up in a PHB some day, even though the etymology and phonesthetics of the word leave something to be desired.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/

But what's wrong with eldritch knight?

It's not terrible, I just think it could be better. Similar to how we don't use the terms "Fighting-man" or "Magic user" anymore.

Plus it opens the door to "dragon knight", "rune knight", "wild knight", ad infinitum.

Wizard is objectively worse than magic user

[Stack of Turtles]

Similar to how we don't use the terms "Fighting-man"

what do you think "fighter" means?

[J1M]

Similar to how we don't use the terms "Fighting-man"

what do you think "fighter" means?

As I said above, it's a more elegant way of saying "fighting man".

[rusty_shackleford]

eldritcher

[Stack of Turtles]

Similar to how we don't use the terms "Fighting-man"

what do you think "fighter" means?

As I said above, it's a more elegant way of saying "fighting man".

yeah, just like those other words and phrases are a more elegant way of saying "fighter + wizard"

[J1M]

eldritcher

Sounds like a wizard specialized in far realms magic school.

[Oyster Sauce]

Witcher
Jedi

[Acrux]

we don't use the terms "Fighting-man" or "Magic user" anymore.

We should

[J1M]

Witcher
Jedi

A shame those are probably trademarked. Though I would very much like to rename at least one of the psionic classes to Jedi instead of using it for gish.

[Tangerine]

we don't use the terms "Fighting-man" or "Magic user" anymore.

We should

All classes should be suffixed with "man" and be off-limits to foids.

[maidenhaver]

I like crusader for spellsword, because maybe you want to use a mace or hammer.

[Manny V]

Fighter + Wizard = Gish (would be nice if we had a cool title for this)

eldritch knight

By cool title, I mean a single word like 'paladin' or 'ranger' instead of what we have today, which is [word for magic] next to [word for sword].

Many other such attempts.

Hexblade
Duskblade
Swordsage
Swordmage
Bladesinger
Echo Knight

@SpellSword

[Cipher]

are there any RPGs where you learn talents by finding trainers and having them teach you cool (unique) abilities?

I think Breath of Fire 3 and 4 did this.

Both games also allowed the player characters to learn skills from monsters by examining them. Those games are really solid for the era and, IMHO, aged very well. Specially 4, the pixel art aged like wine.

[roldet]

I hate the word "fighter" in crpgs, it is a mechanical/soulless term akin to "body types" and it reminds me of street urchins, boxers and slums (i.e. Street Fighter). Correct term should be "warrior" which conveys a sense of grace and discipline. DD,BG3, POE, Pathfinder.. every game use that ****

[rusty_shackleford]

I hate the word "fighter" in crpgs, it is a mechanical/soulless term akin to "body types" and it reminds me of street urchins, boxers and slums (i.e. Street Fighter). Correct term should be "warrior" which conveys a sense of grace and discipline. DD,BG3, POE, Pathfinder.. every game use that ****

Fighting-Man

[DemoGraph]

Correct term should be "warrior" which conveys a sense of grace and discipline.

"Soldier" and "conscript" convey a sense of discipline, comrade. "Warrior" is that naked-*** German howling in da wood.

[rusty_shackleford]

Warrior conveys the meaning of someone who lives to fight, soldier conveys someone who is paid to fight.

[Lhynn]

Warrior conveys the meaning of someone who lives to fight, soldier conveys someone who is paid to fight.

Even more specific, soldier is one who serves a cause. Mercenaries are the ones that explicitely do it for the money.

[DemoGraph]

soldier is one who serves a cause

Soldier is literally derived from solidus, Roman coin.

[rusty_shackleford]

Underrail probably doesn't get enough credit for inventing a new method of awarding XP that thematically fits in with the setting. I'm sure other games have done it prior, but it's the primary example I can think of.

I think I've actually been negative about it in the past but I change my opinion.

[Rand]

I hate the word "fighter" in crpgs, it is a mechanical/soulless term akin to "body types" and it reminds me of street urchins, boxers and slums (i.e. Street Fighter). Correct term should be "warrior" which conveys a sense of grace and discipline. DD,BG3, POE, Pathfinder.. every game use that ****

Fighting-Man

TF is wrong with the classical "man-at-arms"?
Armsman, if you must update it.

Yeah, I know why it's deprecated. Because leftist ******* want to pretend women fought in battles. And they didn't.
But that's why you can't have the word "man" in any manly profession description.

[J1M]

I would use these if I was designing an RPG:

Soldier (Fighter)
Archer (Ranger)
Scout (Rogue)
Commander (4e Warlord)

I'd also find a way to work in some kind of Explorer or Planestrider class and a Geomancer class to make terrain a more important element.

[UltraFan123]

In 3.5 and PF 1e, [Warrior] was an NPC class that was basically just a ****** version of [Fighter].

However, I agree that warrior sounds way better.

[DemoGraph]

Cover yourselves, gentlemen.

[Tangerine]

Cover yourselves, gentlemen.

You're just as wrong as the first time you said it.

[J1M]

It sounds like you guys are implying that soldiers would change which side they were fighting for if the other side gave them more money. I don't believe most veterans would have done that. Receiving some money to feed your family doesn't make military service less honorable.

[rusty_shackleford]

It sounds like you guys are implying that soldiers would change which side they were fighting for if the other side gave them more money. I don't believe most veterans would have done that. Receiving some money to feed your family doesn't make military service less honorable.

Warriors do it for the love of the sport, there are soldiers that are warriors but not all soldiers are warriors.

[roldet]

Fallout 3 is rightly criticized for railroading players toward the Brotherhood of Steel with no alternatives, yet Fallout 4 receives no credit for introducing four factions, much like New Vegas. I would argue, those factions were also more morally ambiguous than the ones found in New Vegas.

Regardless the problem with the game was its delibarate ideological casting and choices of Emil Pagliacci;

- There is town called Covenant which is a perfect peaceful settlement with 100 percent white residents but there is a twist; they are actually killing and experimenting on drifters!

- There are 10 doctors and only two of them are white male and then one of them kills a patient botching a surgery!

- There is travesty called "All Faiths Chapel" in Diamond City.

- Detectives, cowboys, leaders (if they are good) are either black, robots or women.

- There is a vault whose femo overseer wants to "open to world" but xeno workers are against it!

Anyhow all of these **** fixed by Grounded Commonwealth and with mods improving textures, combat, women game is good.

[maidenhaver]

- There is travesty called "All Faiths Chapel" in Diamond City.

Yeah, 4 contradicts my headcanon, so I completely ignore it. In my headcanon, America's a roman and mormon country. Most of the catholic population except mexicans were wiped out, and protestantism never had a zionist or televangism resurgance. The Beatles never went to india.