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logincrash wrote: February 7th, 2026, 11:53
The part of playing ME3 I'm dreading the most is the 2-3 hours of installing mods to make it any good.
But I will play through the vanilla game for the first time in a decade with my ginger Shepard. I think I'll try the ******** movie mode that disables the choices in cutscenes. Never tried it before.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 7th, 2026, 11:56
logincrash wrote: February 7th, 2026, 11:53
The part of playing ME3 I'm dreading the most is the 2-3 hours of installing mods to make it any good.
But I will play through the vanilla game for the first time in a decade with my ginger Shepard. I think I'll try the ******** movie mode that disables the choices in cutscenes. Never tried it before.
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No, I'm talking about my Xenocider™ Engineer.
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Maybe I just got used to the abundance of reddit humor and capeshit logic in the modern media, but during my new playthrough of ME3 I didn't really hate anything. Most of the stuff was just slightly annoying, even Kai Leng.

The only parts that ****** me off were the starchild ending (duh), and the DLCs, since I've never played them before and wasn't prepared. Nearly died of cringe while playing Citadel, Omega was pretty awful with the girlbossing, Leviathan have a really stupid explanation of the reaper's origin. Shepard also frequently acts like a complete dumbfuck, sees a group of obviously indoctrinated people and asks them 'why are you acting so weird???'.

Of course, ME3 still has a ton of issues - as people here pointed out, it continues ME2's trend of ditching the logic and internal consistency in favor of vibes and drama. But it somehow balances the bad stuff out with occasional moments of good worldbuilding. I liked how the game supports the anti-xeno racists by showing pretty much every space race in a negative way (krogans behave like total ******* if Wrex died in ME1, quarians are full-blown israelis in this one; salarians are trying to uplift the shadowbroker race to use against others in the future, also their leader is a manipulative ***** that refuses to help unless you sabotage the krogans; asaris were hoarding the prothean tech, etc etc).

I didn't like how Javik has a jamaican accent, but as a character he's pretty cool. He has a lot of mission banter, frequently chimes in during the dialogues, and every once in a while he cuts through the reddit ******** with 'in my cycle we would've tossed you out of the airlock' or 'shut up, in my cycle you were just primitive animals'. I also thought it was funny how Bioware subverted the expectations by writing Javik as a ******-off bigoted soldier who doesn't know anything because he was born at the tail end of the prothean genocide. They could've portrayed the last prothean as some kind of wise scientist who wakes up and answers all the question, like a living version of Vigil, but they did the opposite.

ME3 is overall a **** rpg and has a very disappointing plot/ending, but it also has the best moment-to-moment mechanica; gameplay of all bioware games. Too bad the videogame developers tend to ditch everything they've created and just start their next project from scratch, Bioware could've probably became a decent shooter developer if they tried to capitalize on ME3's gameplay systems.
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The first proper mission in ME3 (Mars) has kino synth soundtrack

and then you don't hear anything like that in the rest of the game :(
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Installed ME3. Got to the first dream sequence.
**** Mass Effect. 3 out of 4 games are trash. ME2 and ME3 are only slightly better than Andromeda and it's because Shepard isn't ***** *** nerd that nobody takes seriously like Ryder was.
Otherwise the writing is on par.
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My favorite thing about ME3 is the multiplayer. It was surprisingly decent for the time.
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Thank **** there're still modders that have some sense left.
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logincrash wrote: February 7th, 2026, 16:57
Thank **** there're still modders that have some sense left.
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Haven't played Legendary yet (the ******* LAUNCHER doesn't support W7, yet the original games do, ******* PAJEETS).
What downgrades are there, Legendary vs original? (I'm aware they ****** around with Miranda camera angles, but eh)
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BobT wrote: February 8th, 2026, 06:08
logincrash wrote: February 7th, 2026, 16:57
Thank **** there're still modders that have some sense left.
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Haven't played Legendary yet (the ******* LAUNCHER doesn't support W7, yet the original games do, ******* PAJEETS).
What downgrades are there, Legendary vs original? (I'm aware they ****** around with Miranda camera angles, but eh)
I haven't played or seen the ME2 or ME3 remasters, but the lighting in ME1 remaster is horrible. The characters look like corpses with plastic eyes. There are several baffling art direction changes (Eden Prime sky, holograms, HUD). I've had problems with squadmate AI too.
The point of a remaster is to make the game look better than the original. The ME1 remaster miserably fails at that.
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Remaster gud
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The more ME3 I play the more I hate it. The writing is dogshit.

Here's my take away from this trilogy replay - if you want to experience a comfy sci-fi setting with decent story and characters, play ME1. If you want decent gameplay (and only that because you're not getting the story or characters) - play ME3. Do not ever play ME2 or Andromeda. Their gameplay is not good enough to outweigh the cringe writing.
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Got to the second dream. It's so ******* pretentious. These ****** really thought they were making art, huh? Ebert was right. Video games will never be art because calling them art attracts these kinds of smug ******* to make some of the gayest slop imaginable.

Also, everything is so ugly in ME3. Every model and texture looks worse than in ME2 and, surprisingly, ME1. I'll have to check out the remaster of ME3 because, frankly, it couldn't look any worse than the original ME3 already does.
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logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:19
Got to the second dream. It's so ******* pretentious. These ****** really thought they were making art, huh? Ebert was right. Video games will never be art because calling them art attracts these kinds of smug ******* to make some of the gayest slop imaginable.

Also, everything is so ugly in ME3. Every model and texture looks worse than in ME2 and, surprisingly, ME1. I'll have to check out the remaster of ME3 because, frankly, it couldn't look any worse than the original ME3 already does.
I'd say ME3 is about 5% bad which is mostly able to be ignored, could be a lot worse
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:23
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:19
Got to the second dream. It's so ******* pretentious. These ****** really thought they were making art, huh? Ebert was right. Video games will never be art because calling them art attracts these kinds of smug ******* to make some of the gayest slop imaginable.

Also, everything is so ugly in ME3. Every model and texture looks worse than in ME2 and, surprisingly, ME1. I'll have to check out the remaster of ME3 because, frankly, it couldn't look any worse than the original ME3 already does.
I'd say ME3 is about 5% bad which is mostly able to be ignored, could be a lot worse
The remaster?
Because I just got to the Citadel coup mission and I actually feel my blood pressure rising from the Kai Leng scenes.
I wish I could throttle whoever put this ****** in the game with my own two hands.
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logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:36
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:23
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:19
Got to the second dream. It's so ******* pretentious. These ****** really thought they were making art, huh? Ebert was right. Video games will never be art because calling them art attracts these kinds of smug ******* to make some of the gayest slop imaginable.

Also, everything is so ugly in ME3. Every model and texture looks worse than in ME2 and, surprisingly, ME1. I'll have to check out the remaster of ME3 because, frankly, it couldn't look any worse than the original ME3 already does.
I'd say ME3 is about 5% bad which is mostly able to be ignored, could be a lot worse
The remaster?
Because I just got to the Citadel coup mission and I actually feel my blood pressure rising from the Kai Leng scenes.
I wish I could throttle whoever put this ****** in the game with my own two hands.
ME3
I actually liked the Leviathan DLC tho which @wndrbr seemed to hate so… ymmv
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:38
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:36
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:23


I'd say ME3 is about 5% bad which is mostly able to be ignored, could be a lot worse
The remaster?
Because I just got to the Citadel coup mission and I actually feel my blood pressure rising from the Kai Leng scenes.
I wish I could throttle whoever put this ****** in the game with my own two hands.
ME3
I actually liked the Leviathan DLC tho which @wndrbr seemed to hate so… ymmv
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logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:41
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:38
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:36

The remaster?
Because I just got to the Citadel coup mission and I actually feel my blood pressure rising from the Kai Leng scenes.
I wish I could throttle whoever put this ****** in the game with my own two hands.
ME3
I actually liked the Leviathan DLC tho which @wndrbr seemed to hate so… ymmv
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:42
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:41
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:38


ME3
I actually liked the Leviathan DLC tho which @wndrbr seemed to hate so… ymmv
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By "having fun" you mean "baiting posters into pointless and endless cyclical arguing by rustyposting," yeah.
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logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:43
By "having fun" you mean "baiting posters into pointless and endless cyclical arguing by rustyposting," yeah.
But I did like it?
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rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:38
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:36
rusty_shackleford wrote: February 8th, 2026, 08:23


I'd say ME3 is about 5% bad which is mostly able to be ignored, could be a lot worse
The remaster?
Because I just got to the Citadel coup mission and I actually feel my blood pressure rising from the Kai Leng scenes.
I wish I could throttle whoever put this ****** in the game with my own two hands.
ME3
I actually liked the Leviathan DLC tho which @wndrbr seemed to hate so… ymmv
i liked the DLCs from the gameplay point of view. Stellar combat as usual, decent arena and encounter designs, most of the levels look great and have great vibes. The mining colony on an asteroid, the dig site on a cliff that's about to fall apart after getting attacked by the ravagers, and the shipwreck on a water planet - all those areas looked really good.

My problems with the dlc are:
1) Shepard acts like an imbecile while communicating with the obviously indoctrinated miners
2) the scary ancient Leviathans using the indoctrinated humans to beg you not to come. It made them look pathetic and scared
3) the reveal the the Reapers were created by an even older race of aliens was very unsatisfying
4) the fact that leviathans look just like reapers, but organic, and that they also live underwater like Cthulhu. Copying from Lovecraft like that should be punishable by death

This whole dlc is basically ME3 in miniature. Good combat, cool vibes, but the plotwriting is unsatisfying and dumb.
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Shepard is more broken up about the Reapers taking Thessia than he was about them attacking Earth.
I hope Casey Hudson dies alone and destitute.
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Also, finished Rannoch.
@wndrbr is right. The Quarians are megajews.
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rusty_shackleford wrote: March 31st, 2025, 14:02
1>3>2 and no I won't explain figure it out yourself
I see it now.
But it's more like 1>>>>>>3>2.
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Finished vanilla ME3. It was horrible. The writing is the worst in the series.
The gameplay is the only thing it has over ME2.
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Do not play as Engineer. The Drone is useless and the Turret was pretty weak.
I used an assault rifle and Incinerate more than any other abilities.
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@Finarfin, is the Virmire Casualty mod as cringe as Kai Leng is in vanilla or did they change it up to be more tolerable?
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It certainly is not as cringe. Can't remember if they actually talked or were giving Shepard the Silent Treatment though, it has been awhile. I used to mod to make Kai Leng some Husk who was mute.
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logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 17:05
Do not play as Engineer. The Drone is useless and the Turret was pretty weak.
I used an assault rifle and Incinerate more than any other abilities.
engineer sucks in every ME game. No crowd control skills, crap damage output. He's like a skill monkey class in a game where you don't need skill monkeys because there are no traps or skill-gated loot chests.
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wndrbr wrote: February 9th, 2026, 01:05
logincrash wrote: February 8th, 2026, 17:05
Do not play as Engineer. The Drone is useless and the Turret was pretty weak.
I used an assault rifle and Incinerate more than any other abilities.
engineer sucks in every ME game. No crowd control skills, crap damage output. He's like a skill monkey class in a game where you don't need skill monkeys because there are no traps or skill-gated loot chests.
Engineer was alright in ME1, where there were skill-gated loot chests and locked doors. It did fall off because tech abilities are pretty weak late game.
In ME2 AI Hack and the Combat Drone were very useful. Both quite effectively drew heat away from you and let you pick people off with Incinerate and a gun.
They nerfed the both the Drone and AI Hack heavily in ME3. The drone barely aggros mobs and its damage output/stun is way too low. By the time the drone/turret fired 3-4 times, you could take out the enemy by mag dumping him with an assault rifle. There weren't many mech (as in synthetic ones, not the piloted ones) enemies in the main storyline. And when they did show up, the AI Hack ability barely worked half the time.
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logincrash wrote: February 9th, 2026, 05:10
There weren't many mech (as in synthetic ones, not the piloted ones) enemies in the main storyline. And when they did show up, the AI Hack ability barely worked half the time.
i felt it was mostly true for ME2, where AI hack only affected the geth and the mechs. And both of those enemy types appeared relatively rarely. During the final stretch of the game AI hack was entirely useless since you were only fighting against the collectors and the reaperified husk types.

Meanwhile in ME3 Ai hack was replaced with Sabotage, which is useful throughout the whole game due to having multiple functions in addition to hacking the synthetic enemies.
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@logincrash I'm surprised you hate ME3 so much, I thought it was fun :sad:
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