Mass Effect series.

[TheEmptyRoad]

Shepard is a soldier
If you picked a different class you picked wrong

Shepard is likely an Infiltrator or (Less Likely) Engineer. All those hacking and hacking-adjacent minigames you do in ME2 and the door hacking animation you do in ME3 testify to that. Definitely not a Biotic of any sort. Too many cutscenes and situations where a good Biotic Yeet or Yoink would’ve solved the problem. Also a techy sniper operative specops type fits the Soldier+Super Spy thing Spectres are supposed to be.

Pardon the tism.

[Vergil]

All those hacking and hacking-adjacent minigames you do in ME2

That's technology and the fact he has computers in his brain doing the work.

the door hacking animation you do in ME3

Non canon game.

Shepard is a guy with a buzzcut and an assault rifle who machine guns aliens and doesn't afraid of anything (except condoms which he NEVER uses)

[KOS-MOS]

Shepard is a soldier
If you picked a different class you picked wrong

Shepard is likely an Infiltrator or (Less Likely) Engineer. All those hacking and hacking-adjacent minigames you do in ME2 and the door hacking animation you do in ME3 testify to that. Definitely not a Biotic of any sort. Too many cutscenes and situations where a good Biotic Yeet or Yoink would’ve solved the problem. Also a techy sniper operative specops type fits the Soldier+Super Spy thing Spectres are supposed to be.

Pardon the tism.

wow hacking in a sci-fi game, everyone must be an engineer.

[Brother Michael]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

[rusty_shackleford]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

It's shot down because cameras.

[Brother Michael]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

It's shot down because cameras.

Who says the space magic doesn’t affect perception of photos as well?

[rusty_shackleford]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

It's shot down because cameras.

Who says the space magic doesn’t affect perception of photos as well?

They went to masseffectgpt and asked an AI to analyze it

[Vergil]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

It's shot down because cameras.

Who says the space magic doesn’t affect perception of photos as well?

Me, because it's stupid.

[Brother Michael]

It's shot down because cameras.

Who says the space magic doesn’t affect perception of photos as well?

They went to masseffectgpt and asked an AI to analyze it

The Council is convinced of Saren’s guilt with just an audio clip of him that could easily be faked with elevenai today. Also, AI is banned, but that capacity might under be available to VIs.

[Demonic Fate]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

The idea is potentially workable but it would need to have been in the game bible from Day 1 to be properly supported. Pictures/screens, AIs, geths, there's too many ways we should be able to learn the "true" or at least non-human version of the asari faces, it would be a massive plot hole.

Plus, the same ME2 bar convo that introduces the idea is, IIRC, the only time a non-human describes the Asari as actually hot, and they're all drunk. My headcanon is that salarians and krogans are both r-species, so they don't have human/turian-like sexual attraction because they go for quantity over quality - if they decide to shack up with an asari, it's effectively a platonic thing for them, and they still get an unrelated base urge to jizz over a clutch of eggs or however it works.

[logincrash]

I forget if this was discussed already, but I think it’s ******** how they shoot down the idea that the asari are psychically manipulating everyone’s perceptions. You expect me to believe they have perfect human faces by chance? And that every race including the krogan find them palatable? I even can’t remember there being any non-player interspecies relations that did not involve the asari.

The idea is potentially workable but it would need to have been in the game bible from Day 1 to be properly supported. Pictures/screens, AIs, geths, there's too many ways we should be able to learn the "true" or at least non-human version of the asari faces, it would be a massive plot hole.

Speaking of, the whole "No outsider has ever seen a Quarian's face" thing is ******** too. There are plenty of Asari and even Krogan who were alive and roaming around the galaxy 400 years prior to events of Mass Effect. And there's bound to be plenty of photographic evidence or even artistic depictions.
Hell, there's gotta be a ton of contemporary images too. A Quarian dies on the Pilgrimage and anybody can just strip the body and record what they look like, as macabre as that is.

[rusty_shackleford]

They look like photoshopped stock images

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Is this series worth getting into now if you never played it before?

The first game is okay-ish. It is carried by the presentation with the camera angles and the photorealistic aesthetics, but the gameplay (both running around the towns talking to NPCs and backtracking for quests, and running through dungeons) was a slog. Most of the characters were unlikeable and the plot was not engaging. Soundtrack was forgettable. Overall wouldn't recommend unless the aesthetics specifically appeal to you.

How pozzed is it?

After I finished the tropical island planet, my character got forced into having sex with Ashley (when I was very explicitly trying to avoid hitting on anyone. None of the women were appealing). Dropped the game there. I think there was just the final battle at the space station left.

[logincrash]

Is this series worth getting into now if you never played it before?

Soundtrack was forgettable.

How pozzed is it?

After I finished the tropical island planet, my character got forced into having sex with Ashley (when I was very explicitly trying to avoid hitting on anyone. None of the women were appealing). Dropped the game there. I think there was just the final battle at the space station left.

Neither of those are true. The soundtrack is very kino ambient synth. The credits song is very soulful too.


As for the Ashley part, skill issue. It's very possible and easy to avoid fraternizing with your crew.

[Demonic Fate]

but the gameplay (both running around the towns talking to NPCs and backtracking for quests, and running through dungeons) was a slog.

That part might be improved now - ME1 was mocked for all the slow elevator rides everywhere, especially in the Citadel, which it used as a fake loading screen back when everybody had HDDs. On a modern SSD-equipped PC, I would expect the elevators to be as fast as possible.

[Vergil]

Is this series worth getting into now if you never played it before?

Soundtrack was forgettable.

Why are you such a dogshit poster now?

[Magick]

They look like photoshopped stock images

Still can't believe they did that to Tali. That was SO ******* lazy. A fanart artist could have done better for one of the main characters.

[Vergil]

They look like photoshopped stock images

Still can't believe they did that to Tali. That was SO ******* lazy. A fanart artist could have done better for one of the main characters.

She's deserved even less

[Vergil]

Is this series worth getting into now if you never played it before?

Soundtrack was forgettable.

How pozzed is it?

After I finished the tropical island planet, my character got forced into having sex with Ashley (when I was very explicitly trying to avoid hitting on anyone. None of the women were appealing). Dropped the game there. I think there was just the final battle at the space station left.

Neither of those are true. The soundtrack is very kino ambient synth. The credits song is very soulful too.


As for the Ashley part, skill issue. It's very possible and easy to avoid fraternizing with your crew.

Why are autistic ******* on here incapable of understanding basic social cues and interactions so they don't end up getting "forced" into sex with characters they're romancing?
I mean I get she wasn't a 14 year old anime girl so a little more complex than what theyre used to but **** *****.

[Stack of Turtles]

autistic ******* incapable of understanding basic social cues and interactions

(this was the answer)

[J1M]

Honestly looking back ME 3 ending was the least of its issues (gameplay, story, characters, dialogue) was a noticeable downgrade. However the moments where it shined were really good especially some overarching story arcs for certain romances and non romantic character developments.

ME2 was enjoyable, but let's be honest—the plot didn't make any sense and ultimately didn't contribute to the overall story. I suspect the ME3 plot felt rushed because ME2 didn't advance the narrative, forcing them to squeeze the story of two games into one.

ME2 would make more sense if they were intending for more than 3 games to resolve the reaper story. It did further the plot a little by expanding the universe lore. They showed how reapers can affect the development / reaction of other races and they explored some side content about the races to flesh everything out more, which is why it was kind of a cool game to play.

But in a 3 party trilogy you are 100% right - it was a detour storyline that didn't build on ME1 at all and doesn't move the dial further for ME3.

Mass Effect is smaller when it is always about the reapers. The Collectors would have made a fine antagonist on their own.

[J1M]

Is this series worth getting into now if you never played it before? How pozzed is it?

You can punch a reporter on live TV.

[rusty_shackleford]

even the mildest form of distrust towards aliens is treated as evil racism.

Unless they're Batarians
TOTAL BATARIAN DEATH
SLAM DUNK A BATARIAN BABY INTO A TRASH CAN
STIR FRY BATARIANS IN A WOK

That is true. When ME3 came out I would have bet money they were going to add some noble batarians to show that they were ackchually misunderstood good boys, only driven to a life crime because of racist prejudice yadda yadda, instead nope lol every single batarian in the entire trilogy is an *******. Gotta give them a bit of credit for that.

Most of the instances of 'racism' towards aliens ends up being completely justified. I'm not sure if they even intended this.
How do you think quarians have ships with the same technology as the Normandy in ME2?

[Oyster Sauce]

Can't remember any racism towards turians and they coincidentally do nothing wrong and have no negative stereotypes. Almost as if it the racism isn't coming from nowhere...

[loregamer]

[Vergil]

Buttarians lol

[Shillitron]

ME2 was enjoyable, but let's be honest—the plot didn't make any sense and ultimately didn't contribute to the overall story. I suspect the ME3 plot felt rushed because ME2 didn't advance the narrative, forcing them to squeeze the story of two games into one.

ME2 would make more sense if they were intending for more than 3 games to resolve the reaper story. It did further the plot a little by expanding the universe lore. They showed how reapers can affect the development / reaction of other races and they explored some side content about the races to flesh everything out more, which is why it was kind of a cool game to play.

But in a 3 party trilogy you are 100% right - it was a detour storyline that didn't build on ME1 at all and doesn't move the dial further for ME3.

Mass Effect is smaller when it is always about the reapers. The Collectors would have made a fine antagonist on their own.

I agree though. I don't think the reaper situation should of been "resolved" by the star child in ME3. I mean.. ME3 in general is just pure trash. They should of kept doing ME2 tier games with hints at the repear threat but exploring other problems in space too, like the collectors.

The whole "Repears are Old-God like beings slumbering in outer space" was such a good story device to NOT have to deal with Repears immediately. ME3 was a mistake.

[Ligrev]

ME2 would make more sense if they were intending for more than 3 games to resolve the reaper story. It did further the plot a little by expanding the universe lore. They showed how reapers can affect the development / reaction of other races and they explored some side content about the races to flesh everything out more, which is why it was kind of a cool game to play.

But in a 3 party trilogy you are 100% right - it was a detour storyline that didn't build on ME1 at all and doesn't move the dial further for ME3.

Mass Effect is smaller when it is always about the reapers. The Collectors would have made a fine antagonist on their own.

I agree though. I don't think the reaper situation should of been "resolved" by the star child in ME3. I mean.. ME3 in general is just pure trash. They should of kept doing ME2 tier games with hints at the repear threat but exploring other problems in space too, like the collectors.

The whole "Repears are Old-God like beings slumbering in outer space" was such a good story device to NOT have to deal with Repears immediately. ME3 was a mistake.

Most of ME3 was Shepard's Indoctrination induced hallucination. Destroy is the one true option. Shephard didn't fall from space and survive to take a breath, he woke up after fighting off heavy mind control. He was probably on Earth the whole time.

edit1: that's my canon and I'm sticking to it no matter what ME5: The ****** Brigade does with it (if it's ever made).

[rusty_shackleford]

1>3>2 and no I won't explain figure it out yourself

[Bing_xiLim]

1>3>2 and no I won't explain figure it out yourself

Based.