Do you consider Gothic to be an RPG?

[rusty_shackleford]

Mandatory 'you must explain your reasoning'

[Tweed]

Number go up.

[WhiteShark]

Same reason as before. It's an action RPG, which is a hybrid, not a subgenre.

[rusty_shackleford]

Same reason as before. It's an action RPG, which is a hybrid, not a subgenre.

Ultima Underworld is the greatest RPG ever made so this is a bad argument

[rusty_shackleford]

Paying somalis to kidnap @WhiteShark and force him to play Ultima Underworld at gunpoint while he's kicking and screaming because it's not turn-based

[WhiteShark]

But I like action RPGs. I don't think they're lesser than RPGs just because they're a different genre.

[wndrbr]

It has different builds (one handed melee, two-handed melee, bows, crossbows), story branching, minor dungeon crawling elements.

[J1M]

No, because I learned on the HQ that an RPG has visible damage numbers.

[Tweed]

No, because I learned on the HQ that an RPG has visible damage numbers.

I think Returning adds floating damage numbers to Gothic 2.

[J1M]

No, because I learned on the HQ that an RPG has visible damage numbers.

I think Returning adds floating damage numbers to Gothic 2.

Are you implying that mods can't be RPGs?

[Tangerine]

Has character management and customization, lots of reactivity to player action, and choice and consequence.

[asf]

ur gay

[rusty_shackleford]

Has character management and customization

Does it tho?
The only real choice is magic or not, and there's very little equipment… the equipment there is usually just a linear upgrade.

[Tinky Winky]

RPG has been a meme since like the 90s when tactical games like Jagged Alliance started calling themselves RPGs.

[Baldric]

RPG has been a meme since like the 90s when tactical games like Jagged Alliance started calling themselves RPGs.

Gothic is more RPG than some "RPG's"

[Tangerine]

Has character management and customization

Does it tho?
The only real choice is magic or not, and there's very little equipment… the equipment there is usually just a linear upgrade.

You didn't ask if it was a deep one, just if it was.

[Mordred]

quests, levels, equipment, crafting, multiple choices, multiple factions, skil systems (with teachers which is cool)

for me that checks enough marks to be called an rpg.

[BosanskiSeljak]

it's the best one

[madbringer]

Yea you hit a shark with a paddle and you gain strenght I think. That's the rpg hallmark.

[NotAI]

For sure, Gothic 1, Gothic 2 are some of the best examples of RPG.

I just wrote up why in the other thread.

[Norfleet]

Same reason as before. It's an action RPG, which is a hybrid, not a subgenre.

I dunno, I'd say hybrids count. That's how Cleve can be a Neanderthal.

[SpellSword]

Lots of dialogue choices, different classes, stats to level up and items to equip, feels like an RPG.

[Oyster Sauce]

No - I explored a shipwreck and there was exactly 0 loot (Rusty assured me this was a good thing and that I was ******** to expect otherwise).

[rusty_shackleford]

Number go up.

But number go up in Witcher 3?