Wasteland 3

[Rand]

scorpion encounter in ruins setttings was easiest the coolest encounter and if i read correctly those do not repeat?


wtf they were thinking. im not playing for ******** plot, im jew farming monnies and guns ffs.

I think there are two of them. But yes. It would be nice to have decent random encounters with tough enemies and good loot later in the game.

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[rusty_shackleford]

Constant skill checks in this game are onboxious, it all comes down to me leaving at least 10 skill points non used and reloading after finding what skill pass i need to beat.
Same as rare items possibly not spawning at all, until you reload the game like 20 times. This game just thrives on savescumming to work even well.

I agree. The RNG loot is cancer, even with the luck bonus (which seems to process at less than the expected rate as per tooltips).
There are a few places with fixed loot, but to even get something reliably decent from a crate, I save first and reload until I get something useful or valuable, as I don't need 5+ ice axe weapons that I don't spec into, and that sell for pocket change and break down into 1/20th of a useful amount of spare parts (at least without the +30 level 7 out of 10 skill required perk).

What's really annoying me though is the gating of the last other original Desert Ranger, Private Jodie Taylor, behind a series of local quests that have LITERALLY nothing to do with her.
She's a good mechanic, which would save me the trouble of wasting either XP or skill points on another character filling in the gap until the game decides she's done sitting against a wall in base (she claims she's healing, but is not in medical, ever.)
It's Veilguard levels of bad. I literally can't, as the commander, walk up and order her to stop malingering and get to work because Arizona is depending on her.
And if you were to skip doing the two quests until there was no other way to progress, the game would have her sit there doing nothing, despite it being framed as her needing "time to heal".

As for the comment re: wasting XP or skill points, my choice until the game releases her is to spend skill points on her MUCH NEEDED skills on another character, where they would end up either being wasted on her or the replacement once she shows up unless I pay (a huge amount of initially scarce money) for a gamey, ridiculous respec (which is tied 1:1 with recruitment costs as some sort of metagame balancing ********), or to make a recruit that fills her role until she is available, who would be getting the XP for her skills and probably being BETTER than her by the time she's available. I would prefer she is in the party and gaining the XP herself.
Why don't I go this NPC understudy route? Because companions have interesting (theoretically, anyway) voice lines and party interactions and I would like to see hers.


What are the quests gating her?
1: explore and clean up the base (that ESPECIALLY has skill checks in Jodie's skills...)
2: go clear out raiders that have townspeople hostage
3: do a long ******** investigation into the local criminal underworld

All of which have skill checks in Jodie's skills.

Done all that? Jodie's feeling better now.
Skip the last bit of the last quest and go do overworld stuff? Jodie sits on the floor against the wall in the lobby of your HQ feeling mopey until you do it.

******* hell. Why are devs so ********?

Oh, and I forgot to mention the door that is coded to have the nearby guards protect from you opening it via lockpicking it using an unskippable dialogue interruption because "it's a sensitive area" every time you go to interact with it, but they completely ignore you blowing it open with a rocket launcher 15 feet away from them...

She's time gated, anything that progresses the time will help her recover.
I think if you attend to her wounds in the intro it also helps.

[rusty_shackleford]

Forgot to add that I really dislike the recruitment mechanic. If you want to use story NPCs, you're still required to make an almost full party and just bench them when you get a story NPC.

[Rand]

She's time gated, anything that progresses the time will help her recover.

The wiki says otherwise.



Are you sure? Have you looked at the code?

Also, she seems to have a thing for Ol' Rusty here...

[rusty_shackleford]

Have you looked at the code?

yes

The one about the air force base might be true, because I don't think you can even do anything else prior to restoring the HQ?

[Rand]

Have you looked at the code?

yes

Share, please, when you have the time.
I will edit the WIKI and post evidence of the true method to get her off of her ***.

[Rand]

The one about the air force base might be true, because I don't think you can even do anything else prior to restoring the HQ?

Yes, that makes sense.
It still sucks as you need a mechanic skill several times while doing that quest and you miss some stuff when the base updates.

[rusty_shackleford]

I will edit the WIKI and post evidence of the true method to get her off of her ***.

She's just time gated, I don't remember for how long. Completing a mission progresses gametime.
I don't think this mechanic is actually documented anywhere.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Forgot to add that I really dislike the recruitment mechanic. If you want to use story NPCs, you're still required to make an almost full party and just bench them when you get a story NPC.

I’m curious what you think of The Battle of Steeltown and Cult of the Holy Detonation expansions .I only played the main game and never touched the DLC’s

[rusty_shackleford]

Forgot to add that I really dislike the recruitment mechanic. If you want to use story NPCs, you're still required to make an almost full party and just bench them when you get a story NPC.

I’m curious what you think of The Battle of Steeltown and Cult of the Holy Detonation expansions .I only played the main game and never touched the DLC’s

I quit during the Steeltown DLC because I was starting to really hate the "oh so whacky" tone, it's one of the few things I don't like in an RPG. Especially when it repeatedly creates tonal whiplash as they also try to be Very Serious.

[Rand]

Forgot to add that I really dislike the recruitment mechanic. If you want to use story NPCs, you're still required to make an almost full party and just bench them when you get a story NPC.

I’m curious what you think of The Battle of Steeltown and Cult of the Holy Detonation expansions .I only played the main game and never touched the DLC’s

DLCs
No apostrophe required, despite common (mis)usage.

(DLC's implies a possessive of some DLC. And it is not a standard contraction requiring an apostrophe or else it would be some abomination like D'L'C's)

[Tweed]

"It's all ******* in power!"

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char.webp

Always has been.

[Rand]

I will edit the WIKI and post evidence of the true method to get her off of her ***.

She's just time gated, I don't remember for how long. Completing a mission progresses gametime.
I don't think this mechanic is actually documented anywhere.

Still, please share code if you ever have the impulse and time.

[Ilovecheezecake]

Enjoyed the base game on supreme jerk with just the starting 4 rangers, no other npcs.
Steeltown was obnoxious, Cult of holy detonation terrible.

[Red7]

scorpion encounter in ruins setttings was easiest the coolest encounter and if i read correctly those do not repeat?


wtf they were thinking. im not playing for ******** plot, im jew farming monnies and guns ffs.

I think there are two of them. But yes. It would be nice to have decent random encounters with tough enemies and good loot later in the game.

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i killed em both. map on second was bad. first one had nice ruins u could do some manuvers there
i've read there is hidden golden scorpo bot near last mission entrance

[Red7]

Constant skill checks in this game are onboxious, it all comes down to me leaving at least 10 skill points non used and reloading after finding what skill pass i need to beat.
Same as rare items possibly not spawning at all, until you reload the game like 20 times. This game just thrives on savescumming to work even well.

I agree. The RNG loot is cancer, even with the luck bonus (which seems to process at less than the expected rate as per tooltips).
There are a few places with fixed loot, but to even get something reliably decent from a crate, I save first and reload until I get something useful or valuable, as I don't need 5+ ice axe weapons that I don't spec into, and that sell for pocket change and break down into 1/20th of a useful amount of spare parts (at least without the +30 level 7 out of 10 skill required perk).

What's really annoying me though is the gating of the last other original Desert Ranger, Private Jodie Taylor, behind a series of local quests that have LITERALLY nothing to do with her.
She's a good mechanic, which would save me the trouble of wasting either XP or skill points on another character filling in the gap until the game decides she's done sitting against a wall in base (she claims she's healing, but is not in medical, ever.)
It's Veilguard levels of bad. I literally can't, as the commander, walk up and order her to stop malingering and get to work because Arizona is depending on her.
And if you were to skip doing the two quests until there was no other way to progress, the game would have her sit there doing nothing, despite it being framed as her needing "time to heal".

As for the comment re: wasting XP or skill points, my choice until the game releases her is to spend skill points on her MUCH NEEDED skills on another character, where they would end up either being wasted on her or the replacement once she shows up unless I pay (a huge amount of initially scarce money) for a gamey, ridiculous respec (which is tied 1:1 with recruitment costs as some sort of metagame balancing ********), or to make a recruit that fills her role until she is available, who would be getting the XP for her skills and probably being BETTER than her by the time she's available. I would prefer she is in the party and gaining the XP herself.
Why don't I go this NPC understudy route? Because companions have interesting (theoretically, anyway) voice lines and party interactions and I would like to see hers.


What are the quests gating her?
1: explore and clean up the base (that ESPECIALLY has skill checks in Jodie's skills...)
2: go clear out raiders that have townspeople hostage
3: do a long ******** investigation into the local criminal underworld

All of which have skill checks in Jodie's skills.

Done all that? Jodie's feeling better now.
Skip the last bit of the last quest and go do overworld stuff? Jodie sits on the floor against the wall in the lobby of your HQ feeling mopey until you do it.

******* hell. Why are devs so ********?

Oh, and I forgot to mention the door that is coded to have the nearby guards protect from you opening it via lockpicking it using an unskippable dialogue interruption because "it's a sensitive area" every time you go to interact with it, but they completely ignore you blowing it open with a rocket launcher 15 feet away from them...

She's time gated, anything that progresses the time will help her recover.
I think if you attend to her wounds in the intro it also helps.

lel she ded, didnt had any speech skill point at very begin cause why the **** would i, game wouldnt expect me to have it an block one of very few followers in game so early, right? right?

dont care she ugly and fat looking. i got 2 hot cyborg vaginas for support

[rusty_shackleford]

I agree. The RNG loot is cancer, even with the luck bonus (which seems to process at less than the expected rate as per tooltips).
There are a few places with fixed loot, but to even get something reliably decent from a crate, I save first and reload until I get something useful or valuable, as I don't need 5+ ice axe weapons that I don't spec into, and that sell for pocket change and break down into 1/20th of a useful amount of spare parts (at least without the +30 level 7 out of 10 skill required perk).

What's really annoying me though is the gating of the last other original Desert Ranger, Private Jodie Taylor, behind a series of local quests that have LITERALLY nothing to do with her.
She's a good mechanic, which would save me the trouble of wasting either XP or skill points on another character filling in the gap until the game decides she's done sitting against a wall in base (she claims she's healing, but is not in medical, ever.)
It's Veilguard levels of bad. I literally can't, as the commander, walk up and order her to stop malingering and get to work because Arizona is depending on her.
And if you were to skip doing the two quests until there was no other way to progress, the game would have her sit there doing nothing, despite it being framed as her needing "time to heal".

As for the comment re: wasting XP or skill points, my choice until the game releases her is to spend skill points on her MUCH NEEDED skills on another character, where they would end up either being wasted on her or the replacement once she shows up unless I pay (a huge amount of initially scarce money) for a gamey, ridiculous respec (which is tied 1:1 with recruitment costs as some sort of metagame balancing ********), or to make a recruit that fills her role until she is available, who would be getting the XP for her skills and probably being BETTER than her by the time she's available. I would prefer she is in the party and gaining the XP herself.
Why don't I go this NPC understudy route? Because companions have interesting (theoretically, anyway) voice lines and party interactions and I would like to see hers.


What are the quests gating her?
1: explore and clean up the base (that ESPECIALLY has skill checks in Jodie's skills...)
2: go clear out raiders that have townspeople hostage
3: do a long ******** investigation into the local criminal underworld

All of which have skill checks in Jodie's skills.

Done all that? Jodie's feeling better now.
Skip the last bit of the last quest and go do overworld stuff? Jodie sits on the floor against the wall in the lobby of your HQ feeling mopey until you do it.

******* hell. Why are devs so ********?

Oh, and I forgot to mention the door that is coded to have the nearby guards protect from you opening it via lockpicking it using an unskippable dialogue interruption because "it's a sensitive area" every time you go to interact with it, but they completely ignore you blowing it open with a rocket launcher 15 feet away from them...

She's time gated, anything that progresses the time will help her recover.
I think if you attend to her wounds in the intro it also helps.

lel she ded, didnt had any speech skill point at very begin cause why the **** would i, game wouldnt expect me to have it an block one of very few followers in game so early, right? right?

dont care she ugly and fat looking. i got 2 hot cyborg vaginas for support

You can just start combat by shooting the person holding her hostage, you don't actually have to begin the dialogue.

The game is very inconsistent with this kind of stuff tho. Sometimes it leans into the player being creative, other times it completely hamstrings you.

[Red7]

She's time gated, anything that progresses the time will help her recover.
I think if you attend to her wounds in the intro it also helps.

lel she ded, didnt had any speech skill point at very begin cause why the **** would i, game wouldnt expect me to have it an block one of very few followers in game so early, right? right?

dont care she ugly and fat looking. i got 2 hot cyborg vaginas for support

You can just start combat by shooting the person holding her hostage, you don't actually have to begin the dialogue.

The game is very inconsistent with this kind of stuff tho. Sometimes it leans into the player being creative, other times it completely hamstrings you.

there was no single clue its follower, for me it was just one of early of "show me the gore at begin cutscenes" things
but they overdid it so much it lacked any impact, it made whole thing hilarious.

im not sure how much level scalling is there but it seems game was more realistic at very begin when 1 "rust bucket" round dropped rider. later like a oversized frog has 2000 hitpoints and survives rocket to face like it daddy slap on buttcheeks

[Rand]

You can just start combat by shooting the person holding her hostage, you don't actually have to begin the dialogue.

The wiki says that, actually.

[rusty_shackleford]

You can just start combat by shooting the person holding her hostage, you don't actually have to begin the dialogue.

The wiki says that, actually.

Reading a guide is called cheating, actually.

[Rand]

later like a oversized frog has 2000 hitpoints and survives rocket to face like it daddy slap on buttcheeks

One of the coolest things in Resident Evil 4 was the fact that the rocket launcher could one-shot virtually every enemy.
In one case, even a boss that is otherwise a huge pain in the ***.

[Rand]

Reading a guide is called cheating, actually.

**** off Rusty. I wanted to see why the silly girl would not get up and join me.
As you said, I cannot rely on the game to be reasonable or tell me things directly and consistently.

[rusty_shackleford]

**** off Rusty

Nope.

As you said, I cannot rely on the game to be reasonable or tell me things directly and consistently.

Oh well.

[Acrux]

Forgot to add that I really dislike the recruitment mechanic. If you want to use story NPCs, you're still required to make an almost full party and just bench them when you get a story NPC.

I’m curious what you think of The Battle of Steeltown and Cult of the Holy Detonation expansions .I only played the main game and never touched the DLC’s

Steeltown is a bunch of puzzle-type fights. Holy Detonation is just plain bad.

[Red7]

later like a oversized frog has 2000 hitpoints and survives rocket to face like it daddy slap on buttcheeks

One of the coolest things in Resident Evil 4 was the fact that the rocket launcher could one-shot virtually every enemy.
In one case, a even boss that is otherwise a huge pain in the ***.

they even added "tactical nuclear launcher" that cant take that frog either

i dont even feel bad about destroying it by accident cause it was another cryptic **** of missed skill check

[Bertram_Tung]

so is this game full of reddit humor?

[Acrux]

It's not what I would call reddit humor. It's the same types of jokes the series has always had, there was just no restraint put on the jokey writing so it's pretty excessive.

[Breathe]

so is this game full of reddit humor?

It's so insincere.