Vampire: The Masquerade® - Bloodlines™ 2

[J1M]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

[Lhynn]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

Some are, its just that nobody cares.

[Vergil]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

Every time I checked back on this thread to see what the latest fiasco is I'm floored by the continued poor decision making.
Announcing DLC gated content for this extremely troubled game before it's even out was already a bad look. However, if they at least made them clans that weren't in the first game it might be an easier swallow for people.
Toreador, a popular base game clan from the original game being locked behind DLC is genuinely ********.
It's kind of incredible how they are making the worst possible move at every single step of the process. Just a failed coin flip after failed coin flip. Critical failure after critical failure.

[Roguey]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

It's a "the food is bad and the portions are so small" tier complaint.

Every time I checked back on this thread to see what the latest fiasco is I'm floored by the continued poor decision making.
Announcing DLC gated content for this extremely troubled game before it's even out was already a bad look. However, if they at least made them clans that weren't in the first game it might be an easier swallow for people.
Toreador, a popular base game clan from the original game being locked behind DLC is genuinely ********.
It's kind of incredible how they are making the worst possible move at every single step of the process. Just a failed coin flip after failed coin flip. Critical failure after critical failure.

The original plan was that BL 2 would have been released earlier in the year and then they'd release two DLCs later, one an additional clan to play through (Lasombra obviously) and then a standalone DLC with a unique character (Fabien the thinblood). The delay resulted in a change of plans; they made Fabien a malk and came to the conclusion there was little interest in a walking sim DLC, so they folded that content into the game itself. And since they were now missing an extra clan they had already announced, they tacked on Toreadors to the Lasombra DLC. With the delay it's all getting released at once. They were never going to offer tories for free on account of this reasoning:

[J1M]

That logic doesn't work on me. Not sure why you would expect anyone to believe that Bloodlines 2 development was well-planned or had to be done the way that resulted in firing the first studio and taking 8 years to make.

It's a bad look to put extra clans in the deluxe edition.

Somehow you've confused yourself into accepting the assertion that the extra clan DLC had to come out for October 2025 and everything else is malleable.

[Vergil]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

It's a "the food is bad and the portions are so small" tier complaint.

Every time I checked back on this thread to see what the latest fiasco is I'm floored by the continued poor decision making.
Announcing DLC gated content for this extremely troubled game before it's even out was already a bad look. However, if they at least made them clans that weren't in the first game it might be an easier swallow for people.
Toreador, a popular base game clan from the original game being locked behind DLC is genuinely ********.
It's kind of incredible how they are making the worst possible move at every single step of the process. Just a failed coin flip after failed coin flip. Critical failure after critical failure.

The original plan was that BL 2 would have been released earlier in the year and then they'd release two DLCs later, one an additional clan to play through (Lasombra obviously) and then a standalone DLC with a unique character (Fabien the thinblood). The delay resulted in a change of plans; they made Fabien a malk and came to the conclusion there was little interest in a walking sim DLC, so they folded that content into the game itself. And since they were now missing an extra clan they had already announced, they tacked on Toreadors to the Lasombra DLC. With the delay it's all getting released at once. They were never going to offer tories for free on account of this reasoning:

Certified roguey post

[DrSneed]

Let's pray that this is a failure along with EU5 and that Paradox is finally forced to close.

Their executives will just move on to other studios to jew

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it up.

[Vergil]

[Finarfin]

God, I hope this flops along with Europa Universalis so that Paradox dies

[Roguey]

It's a bad look to put extra clans in the deluxe edition.

They were always going to do this, even with Hardsuit's version. Selling DLC is what Paradox does. They've crunched the numbers and determined it's worth it.

[Valter]

It's a bad look to put extra clans in the deluxe edition.

They were always going to do this, even with Hardsuit's version. Selling DLC is what Paradox does. They've crunched the numbers and determined it's worth it.

Right. Is this Paradox's first RPG or what? 'Cause I feel like map gamers are much more used to getting ripped off by immeasurable amounts of DLC

[J1M]

It's a bad look to put extra clans in the deluxe edition.

They were always going to do this, even with Hardsuit's version. Selling DLC is what Paradox does. They've crunched the numbers and determined it's worth it.

Why do you like to repeat plainly obvious information as if it is a deep truth?

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

Many are on places like YouTube, Twitter & certain subreddits.

[Demonic Fate]

Surprised nobody is complaining about Lasombra and Toreador costing an extra $30.

Like I was going to pay money for this in the first place, lmao.

[J1M]

A better premium edition pack-in would be a playable build from the Hardsuit version.

[Finarfin]

It's a bad look to put extra clans in the deluxe edition.

They were always going to do this, even with Hardsuit's version. Selling DLC is what Paradox does. They've crunched the numbers and determined it's worth it.

Determined it's worth it yet they say that they will not continue any RPG projects nor will they do any more DLCs for Bloodlines 2 other than what was confirmed

[Roguey]

Why do you like to repeat plainly obvious information as if it is a deep truth?

Why are you complaining about the small portions of a terrible meal?

Determined it's worth it yet they say that they will not continue any RPG projects nor will they do any more DLCs for Bloodlines 2 other than what was confirmed

Trying to squeeze as much as they possibly can from the FOMOs. There won't be any tail to speak of after the first couple of weeks.

[Trickster]

About "clan DLC" situation

It's sucks not just because "they're selling content that should have been in the base game for money". But also because the very fact that certain clans can be added to the game so easily, without breaking anything, shows just how insignificant, half-baked, and poorly integrated into the game's mechanics these clans are.

Oh, and yeah, the practice of tacking on more and more content makes the game incredibly unstable. A prime example is The Sims 4. Oh, I have a feeling the White Wolf are going to seriously regret selling the rights to these grifters. This is going to generate a ton of negative publicity for the WoD.

[Rand]

I have a feeling the White Wolf are going to seriously regret selling the rights to these grifters.

The three of them that AREN'T gay and ******** will recognize themselves in them and feel a kinship.

[Xenich]

I never understood this term:

"controlled chaos"

It makes no sense.

[J1M]

Why do you like to repeat plainly obvious information as if it is a deep truth?

Why are you complaining about the small portions of a terrible meal?

Determined it's worth it yet they say that they will not continue any RPG projects nor will they do any more DLCs for Bloodlines 2 other than what was confirmed

Trying to squeeze as much as they possibly can from the FOMOs. There won't be any tail to speak of after the first couple of weeks.

I was making an observation about how much the hype had died down. I know you look for any excuse to repost your mass effect DLC infographic, but these canned responses you have aren't as insightful as you think they are. Especially when out of context like today.

[J1M]

About "clan DLC" situation

It's sucks not just because "they're selling content that should have been in the base game for money". But also because the very fact that certain clans can be added to the game so easily, without breaking anything, shows just how insignificant, half-baked, and poorly integrated into the game's mechanics these clans are.

Oh, and yeah, the practice of tacking on more and more content makes the game incredibly unstable. A prime example is The Sims 4. Oh, I have a feeling the White Wolf are going to seriously regret selling the rights to these grifters. This is going to generate a ton of negative publicity for the WoD.

White Wolf was sold to the Excel MMO company and then to Paradox. The owners of WoD are making Bloodlines 2.

[Roguey]

I was making an observation about how much the hype had died down. I know you look for any excuse to repost your mass effect DLC infographic, but these canned responses you have aren't as insightful as you think they are. Especially when out of context like today.

What hype? There hasn't been any hype since they fired Mitsoda back in 2020. Dead project walking ever since.

[Norfleet]

I never understood this term:

"controlled chaos"

It makes no sense.

It's like "controlled nuclear explosion", only without the control or the nuclear explosion.

[Xenich]

I never understood this term:

"controlled chaos"

It makes no sense.

It's like "controlled nuclear explosion", only without the control or the nuclear explosion.

I worked as a manager for a large corporation once and a fellow "female" manager said... I love this place, I love the "controlled chaos"...

The environment was so ******* insanely ********... disruptive, unproductive and the employees ******* hated the place and constantly lamented about the lack of organization and function.

Again... large, major corporation. When I say large, I mean ******* huge... like... "THE" leader of its industry...

/sigh

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Fortnight is more of a RPG than this game, **** it the annual roster update in the FIFA games is more of RPG than this dumpster fire.

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[rusty_shackleford]

Nobody actually cares about monetization/dlc/etc. People saying they do is merely the customer being unable to explain their actual issue.
The problem isn't charging for toreadors, the problem is that the product sucks.

[logincrash]

About "clan DLC" situation

They should make a Klan DLC to get with the times. You could play as The Grand Blood Wizard.

[Valter]

Fortnight is more of a RPG than this game, **** it the annual roster update in the FIFA games is more of RPG than this dumpster fire.

This has to be an exaggeration... right? I mean how is there no melee or guns? Is everyone a spellchucking wizard in this setting?

[J1M]

The Steam screenshots imply that character creation is just an in-game menu and you can change your eye color, face, and clothes at-will. It looks like they had some kind of debug menu for this that they decided to leave in the full game. Possibly because they couldn't accomplish their microtransaction or in-game reward aspirations.