Official statement on Steam being pressured to remove offensive content

[rusty_shackleford]

I don't know how welcome Kiwi Farms is here

As long as it's on-topic & not porn, there's very few rules about what you can't post.

[stormvermin]

I don't know how welcome Kiwi Farms is here

As long as it's on-topic & not porn, there's very few rules about what you can't post.

It's on topic for this specifically. I like your site and am trying to fit in.

[SpellSword]

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[OnTilt]

Yeah, I know. I use cash.

Which you withdraw from a bank? Which does business with which companies to coordinate their money? I mean there could be banks that don't have contracts with Visa or Mastercard, but I can't think of one...

If it was the banks doing the deplatforming it would be a non-issue, we already have tons of regulations regarding this along with thousands of banks.

Whatever you think of him, Andrew Anglin cannot have a bank account to this day, presumably because he made fat jokes about a woman who died at charlottesville. He can't have a website either, unless he goes through obscure web hosting services out of third world countries. I just bring this up because whatever rules and regulations you're speaking of don't really mean much.

I think that utilities and infrastructure shouldn't have a say about who uses their services for what (assuming it's legal conduct). But that's not the world we live in, so like you, I'm happy to watch my enemies take an L.

[rusty_shackleford]

Whatever you think of him, Andrew Anglin cannot have a bank account to this day, presumably because he made fat jokes about a woman who died at charlottesville.

Seems more likely that he can't open a bank account because he owes millions in default judgments and would fail any reasonable risk assessment. This is an issue with the civil court system being used to change society's behavior, not banks.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Censorship is great and if you don't like it you're a ***

If you choose the republican standpoint then I have bad news for you, payment processors have already come for gun sellers, and wrestling (seeing Fansly platform statements). They will probably go for alcohol home shipment soon even if it's just for regarding a dozen of states. They aren't your friends. May I suggest turning Mormon?

" heh those things you like were censored for years but now they've come for the things I like you should defend me"

Yes.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

[Acrux]

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

[Trickster]

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

The most disgusting thing is that this even needs to be defended. Modern Gen Z has zero media literacy and no understanding of the concept of a work of art.

[Tangerine]

If Unhelpful Contrarian and Trickster both support the side I disagree with, I know I'm right.

[Oyster Sauce]

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

Kind of. He would definitely defend both of those examples but also he'll have limits that he considers unreasonable, outside of the spectrum, and will simply brush off the hypocrisy because that's how most people behave.

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

The most disgusting thing is that this even needs to be defended. Modern Gen Z has zero media literacy and no understanding of the concept of a work of art.

I don't care how much effort somebody put into making something bad.

[mercerxiv]

I mean, the appeal to freedom of speech would have worked maybe a decade ago, but that time has passed.
There is no such thing even in the US, the speech (and expression) is being actively policed and the "wrong" kinds get prosecuted with prejudice.
In addition, the ongoing societal experiment has demonstrated that when given sufficient freedom many of the modern people will exercise that freedom to become degenerates and deviants, promote child mutilation, vote for infinity browns in their ancestral home, and deplatform you if you dare object. You could say that this experiment has failed and it's time to move onto something else.
So **** yeah I support cracking down on online degeneracy, it's as good a start as any.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

I guess it's a question of whether you think a game like Hatred, which is most definitely a social commentary game(in a few ways), is more worthy of defending than incest rape horsecock simulator games.

People who failed the former test are not getting my sympathies for the latter.

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

I know it be hard to believe but there are people who strive to adhere to the principles they advocate for and not forgo it willing when it’s convenient.

[Statesman]

So is Discover the only payment processor that ignores political grandstanding or are they simply that irrelevant (at least internationally)?

[Oyster Sauce]

So is Discover the only payment processor that ignores political grandstanding or are they simply that irrelevant (at least internationally)?

They banned **** Masterson, and Null (obviously)

[rusty_shackleford]

So is Discover the only payment processor that ignores political grandstanding or are they simply that irrelevant (at least internationally)?

[Statesman]

So is Discover the only payment processor that ignores political grandstanding or are they simply that irrelevant (at least internationally)?

They banned **** Masterson, and Null (obviously)

Looking up details on ****, I found out that apparently Discover banned New Project 2 first and as a result, it was added to the MATCH (Member Alert to Control High-Risk Merchants) blocklist, managed by MasterCard, which prohibited the company from using the other major payment networks. Couldn't find details on Null/Kiwi (besides the Paypal ban), but I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened (regardless of who issued the original ban).

[DecadeRiptide]

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[DecadeRiptide]

Anyone knows how to purchase No Mercy? Just curious if they've removed it worldwide or what?

[SoLong]

BTW, they won't come for me, because I don't use any of their services. This sounds like a you problem to me!

Unlikely, since you use their services by extension every time you make any kind of electronic money transfer with a card.

Don't get me wrong, feel free to laugh at the crying *******. Just remember to kick Visa/MC in the balls too, even if the ******* benefit by proxy. You have them in a position where they're willing to surrender a major weapon because they got the financial equivalent of a paper cut, ******* size the moment and exploit it properly. Who the **** cares that these thundercunts can have easier access to wankbait if they're willing to surrender an attack route against the ******* second amendment (and lots of other things) in exchange?

Also, I discovered the Fair Access to Banking Act, which does in fact do both: prevent payment processors and banks from discriminating against gun buyers (the Republican lawmakers primary goal) while also protecting games by proxy.

Amazingly enough even a few redditards seem to come around on it, even though the worst of them cry that the bill has the Republican's cooties all over it.

(I swear, deep left redditors are some kind of black hole of intelligence. No matter how many good arguments you pour into them, no sense ever escapes the event horizon.)

I don't know how welcome Kiwi Farms is here but Josh just wrote a sneedpost about the Fair Access to Banking Act that's worth a read.

Also, @RangerBoo you can find Lidl crashing out at the end of the page if that's of interest to you.

Thank you for reminding me Kiwi Farms exist. Also, Null is a moron and posts like his are why I ******* loathe armchair lawyers with the burning passion of a thousand suns.

Here is the actual text for the bill. It's a rather brief read as far as bills go, but there are two important sections. First, the defitioniton of "financial service" in financial service institutions, which include, but are not limited to banks, includes payment processing. Also, the second section is important and someone needs to beat it through his thick skull with extreme force:

SEC. 5. Payment card networks.

(a) Definition.—In this section, the term “payment card network” has the meaning given the term in section 921(c) of the Electronic Fund Transfer Act (15 U.S.C. 1693o–2(c)).

(b) Prohibition.—No payment card network, including a subsidiary of a payment card network, may, directly or through any agent, processor, or licensed member of the network, by contract, requirement, condition, penalty, or otherwise, prohibit or inhibit the ability of any person who is in compliance with the law, including section 8 of this Act, to obtain access to services or products of the payment card network because of political or reputational risk considerations.

I bolded the important part. No, your bank, or paypal, or whoever else can't go "Oh gee, we really would like to process your payment, but our processor said no, lol!" because the act expressly forbids them from hiding behind their payment processors like that.

It's funny because I saw a similar argument like that on reddit recently. Does Null get his legal advice from there?

[Kalarion]

I will defend both.Its a matter of principles.

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

I know it be hard to believe but there are people who strive to adhere to the principles they advocate for and not forgo it willing when it’s convenient.

Before I go full Hiver, do you understand that what you're accusing us of (or implying you're accusing us of) is non-sensical?

[Roguey]

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

No theory of mind, the left/right horseshoe.

[Acrux]

You don't really believe this. It's an act, and you are pretending even to yourself.

No theory of mind, the left/right horseshoe.

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

[RangerBoo]

Also, @RangerBoo you can find Lidl crashing out at the end of the page if that's of interest to you.

Yeah, the dumb hole got mad at Josh calling censorious feminists ******** holes. It ended up intellectually defeating her. I have the screen. It is super funny and the lack of self actualization at her screed over how all the good posters are now gone when she was the one who chased them off or got them banned will never not be funny to me.

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Note to any man reading this, if you want to defeat a feminist in battle all you have to do is call her a "hole". The look of anguish and defeat they will have over being called that is priceless.

[rusty_shackleford]

kiwifarms has a foid issue

[ArcaneLurker]

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The UK always starts this **** which is ironic since they are usually the biggest sex offenders on the planet

Are you Indian?

[ArcaneLurker]

The UK always starts this **** which is ironic since they are usually the biggest sex offenders on the planet

Are you Indian?

[Roguey]

I decided to uncheck "adult only sexual content" box in my Steam store preferences (I didn't particularly care about seeing it) and now I haven't seen a single porn game on the store. Getting the impression you guys who have complained about it are just plain lying about your experience. Fiends with no self-control who can't actually uncheck the box. You're the character Alice Cooper sang as in this song



I was so offended as I sat for three hours, it was mental cruelty, I was so shocked.

[rusty_shackleford]

I decided to uncheck "adult only sexual content" box in my Steam store preferences (I didn't particularly care about seeing it) and now I haven't seen a single porn game on the store. Getting the impression you guys who have complained about it are just plain lying about your experience. Fiends with no self-control who can't actually uncheck the box. You're the character Alice Cooper sang as in this song



I was so offended as I sat for three hours, it was mental cruelty, I was so shocked.

I had to put anime as one of my ignored tags because there was so much coomerslop with that unticked, I went over it in one of the threads here

[Roguey]

I had to put anime as one of my ignored tags because there was so much coomerslop with that unticked, I went over it in one of the threads here

Sounds like it was making recommendations based on your algorithm. I've gone through multiple discovery queues, nothing but completely normal games (that I have no interest in but that's as usual).