Ross Scott's 'Stop Killing Games' Campaign

[Shillitron]

already acknowledged that this is going to go nowhere

EU made Apple bend the knee on USB cords though/

most that will happen is developers stop offering their games to the EU

That's what I thought when EU would bully corporations to pay ******** fees for nothing.. but it seems EU represents too large of a market segment. Apple bent the knee, so did Meta.

[Lord of Riva]

EU made Apple bend the knee on USB cords though/

most that will happen is developers stop offering their games to the EU

That's what I thought when EU would bully corporations to pay ******** fees for nothing.. but it seems EU represents too large of a market segment. Apple bent the knee, so did Meta.

Companies can not be profitable by skipping 15% of the market.

[Stack of Turtles]

most that will happen is developers stop offering their games to the EU

That's what I thought when EU would bully corporations to pay ******** fees for nothing.. but it seems EU represents too large of a market segment. Apple bent the knee, so did Meta.

Companies can not be profitable by skipping 15% of the market.

That's the same ******** ideology that created the modern woke game because "women are 50% of the video game market" (they're not)

[Lord of Riva]

That's what I thought when EU would bully corporations to pay ******** fees for nothing.. but it seems EU represents too large of a market segment. Apple bent the knee, so did Meta.

Companies can not be profitable by skipping 15% of the market.

That's the same ******** ideology that created the modern woke game because "women are 50% of the video game market" (they're not)

Don't tell that to me but the companies, they are in competition with each other and demand to get all of the money. They could produce for their local market.

[Acrux]

Don't tell that to me but the companies, they are in competition with each other and demand to get all of the money. They could produce for their local market.

I didn't realize you are a distributist. Cool!

[Shillitron]

That's what I thought when EU would bully corporations to pay ******** fees for nothing.. but it seems EU represents too large of a market segment. Apple bent the knee, so did Meta.

Companies can not be profitable by skipping 15% of the market.

That's the same ******** ideology that created the modern woke game because "women are 50% of the video game market" (they're not)

This a false comparison.
The EU has an established market segment that represents proven revenue streams that already exist today and have for years - its not the same as chasing a market that doesn't exist AKA "Female Gamers" or "The Moden Audience" etc.

A company has to weigh <insert ******** policy> with <revenue loss value>.

That equation so far has always resolved to the EU getting their way despite them being an unelected body of globo-stooges who keep attacking / grifting off American companies.

[Stack of Turtles]

Companies can not be profitable by skipping 15% of the market.

That's the same ******** ideology that created the modern woke game because "women are 50% of the video game market" (they're not)

This a false comparison.
The EU has an established market segment that represents proven revenue streams that already exist today and have for years - its not the same as chasing a market that doesn't exist AKA "Female Gamers" or "The Moden Audience" etc.

A company has to weigh <insert ******** policy> with <revenue loss value>.

That equation so far has always resolved to the EU getting their way despite them being an unelected body of globo-stooges who keep attacking / grifting off American companies.

That's probably true for social media companies and similar examples, but I'm not sure it applies to gaming. At any rate, the Euro market will evaporate in 5-10 years when Europeons don't have any money anymore.

[Norfleet]

That's probably true for social media companies and similar examples, but I'm not sure it applies to gaming. At any rate, the Euro market will evaporate in 5-10 years when Europeons don't have any money anymore.

AMERICANS don't have any money anymore, either! That's why gaming sales are tanking.

[J1M]

That's probably true for social media companies and similar examples, but I'm not sure it applies to gaming. At any rate, the Euro market will evaporate in 5-10 years when Europeons don't have any money anymore.

AMERICANS don't have any money anymore, either! That's why gaming sales are tanking.

False.

Games are an economical substitute for other entertainment.

Americans don't need to have money in order to buy things, they can borrow up to and including the cost of a luxury vehicle.

If games aren't selling the product is the problem.

[Nooneatall]

That's probably true for social media companies and similar examples, but I'm not sure it applies to gaming. At any rate, the Euro market will evaporate in 5-10 years when Europeons don't have any money anymore.

AMERICANS don't have any money anymore, either! That's why gaming sales are tanking.

False.

Games are an economical substitute for other entertainment.

Americans don't need to have money in order to buy things, they can borrow up to and including the cost of a luxury vehicle.

If games aren't selling the product is the problem.

Gaming is extremely cheap as a hobby if you factor in the amount of free games and the ability to create your own games. Way cheaper than other hobbies like warhammer or those card games, sports, travel, etc.

[Norfleet]

That's probably true for social media companies and similar examples, but I'm not sure it applies to gaming. At any rate, the Euro market will evaporate in 5-10 years when Europeons don't have any money anymore.

AMERICANS don't have any money anymore, either! That's why gaming sales are tanking.

False.

Games are an economical substitute for other entertainment.

Americans don't need to have money in order to buy things, they can borrow up to and including the cost of a luxury vehicle.

If games aren't selling the product is the problem.

And yet, gaming sales are still down, simply cuz Americans are broke. Of course, the product is the problem, and that's why it's MOST down in NEW games, because people are still buying old games. See Steamfax. But they're still DOWN, cuz Americans are still BROKE. And yes, obviously, games are the most economic entertainment, which is why I would imagine they will ultimately be hit less hard...but things are still down.

[ManjuShri]

[rusty_shackleford]

I looked into this for about 5 seconds and apparently the EU has like 14 vice presidents???

[Vergil]

Watching Ross update video was deeply black pilling

User gets blackpilled upon first discovering that internet petitions don't matter in.... 2025?

such a herculean feat

Making a petition and youtube videos?

[Element]

Da hecking corpos stole muhfugging croo but da EU is gonna give da powa back to da consooma n shieet

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Watching Ross update video was deeply black pilling

User gets blackpilled upon first discovering that internet petitions don't matter in.... 2025?

such a herculean feat

Making a petition and youtube videos?

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[rusty_shackleford]

[Stack of Turtles]

"I've been advised I'm not a legal person; I'm a natural person." He's taking advice from sovereign citizens...

[rusty_shackleford]

"I've been advised I'm not a legal person; I'm a natural person." He's taking advice from sovereign citizens...

I assumed it was some EU specific thing because he lives in the EU but is not a citizen there

[Norfleet]

Counterpoint: We shouldn't stop killing games. Games have been on the decline for decades, and there can only be one reasonable answer: We must KILL MORE TO FIND OUT WHY.

[rusty_shackleford]

what he should be doing is normalizing the leaking of server software/game sourcecode
the fact that this doesn't happen far more often is ********, ******* ******** bootlickers working at companies

[Stack of Turtles]

"I've been advised I'm not a legal person; I'm a natural person." He's taking advice from sovereign citizens...

I assumed it was some EU specific thing because he lives in the EU but is not a citizen there

It's not, and if he is doing work for this EU group specifically, he counts as a sponsor, but if he's only doing work for his own non-EU part of it, I'm pretty sure (but don't have any legal precedent to back this up) that wouldn't "carry over" even if the EU group benefits from his work. But he doesn't seem to know that and is infuriatingly vague about it.

He keeps saying other sovcit-adjacent misreadings of the law like "I'm not a professional so I'm not providing professional assistance", also not how it works...

[rusty_shackleford]

"I've been advised I'm not a legal person; I'm a natural person." He's taking advice from sovereign citizens...

I assumed it was some EU specific thing because he lives in the EU but is not a citizen there

It's not, and if he is doing work for this EU group specifically, he counts as a sponsor, but if he's only doing work for his own non-EU part of it, I'm pretty sure (but don't have any legal precedent to back this up) that wouldn't "carry over" even if the EU group benefits from his work. But he doesn't seem to know that and is infuriatingly vague about it.

He keeps saying other sovcit-adjacent misreadings of the law like "I'm not a professional so I'm not providing professional assistance", also not how it works...

the volunteer exception seemed pretty clearcut to me tbh

[Stack of Turtles]

I assumed it was some EU specific thing because he lives in the EU but is not a citizen there

It's not, and if he is doing work for this EU group specifically, he counts as a sponsor, but if he's only doing work for his own non-EU part of it, I'm pretty sure (but don't have any legal precedent to back this up) that wouldn't "carry over" even if the EU group benefits from his work. But he doesn't seem to know that and is infuriatingly vague about it.

He keeps saying other sovcit-adjacent misreadings of the law like "I'm not a professional so I'm not providing professional assistance", also not how it works...

the volunteer exception seemed pretty clearcut to me tbh

The EU is a **** jurisdiction so they have limits on how much volunteering you're allowed to do. The complaint specifically called that out; you'll note that he quoted them as mentioning that his contributions allegedly exceeded the volunteer exception. I have no idea what that limit actually is or whether it is true that he did, because I'm not European, thank God, but I'm going to guess the complainants probably checked and find that it's reasonably likely. Regardless, if he was directly assisting this EU group, he probably WAS required to keep track of the time spent.

It seems to me like, MOST LIKELY, his efforts were ancillary to the EU group itself and don't count for this, but I can't tell for sure because he doesn't seem to understand the difference well enough to explain.

[rusty_shackleford]

It's not, and if he is doing work for this EU group specifically, he counts as a sponsor, but if he's only doing work for his own non-EU part of it, I'm pretty sure (but don't have any legal precedent to back this up) that wouldn't "carry over" even if the EU group benefits from his work. But he doesn't seem to know that and is infuriatingly vague about it.

He keeps saying other sovcit-adjacent misreadings of the law like "I'm not a professional so I'm not providing professional assistance", also not how it works...

the volunteer exception seemed pretty clearcut to me tbh

The EU is a **** jurisdiction so they have limits on how much volunteering you're allowed to do. The complaint specifically called that out; you'll note that he quoted them as mentioning that his contributions allegedly exceeded the volunteer exception. I have no idea what that limit actually is or whether it is true that he did, because I'm not European, thank God, but I'm going to guess the complainants probably checked and find that it's reasonably likely. Regardless, if he was directly assisting this EU group, he probably WAS required to keep track of the time spent.

It seems to me like, MOST LIKELY, his efforts were ancillary to the EU group itself and don't count for this, but I can't tell for sure because he doesn't seem to understand the difference well enough to explain.

Ross not understanding things is part of his charm

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

Counterpoint: We shouldn't stop killing games. Games have been on the decline for decades, and there can only be one reasonable answer: We must KILL MORE TO FIND OUT WHY.

Complete retardation.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

what he should be doing is normalizing the leaking of server software/game sourcecode
the fact that this doesn't happen far more often is ********, ******* ******** bootlickers working at companies

Publishers go out there way to make that as difficult as possible probably including legal action against the leaker which would causes a self imposed chilling effect to would be offenders.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

It's not, and if he is doing work for this EU group specifically, he counts as a sponsor, but if he's only doing work for his own non-EU part of it, I'm pretty sure (but don't have any legal precedent to back this up) that wouldn't "carry over" even if the EU group benefits from his work. But he doesn't seem to know that and is infuriatingly vague about it.

He keeps saying other sovcit-adjacent misreadings of the law like "I'm not a professional so I'm not providing professional assistance", also not how it works...

the volunteer exception seemed pretty clearcut to me tbh

The EU is a **** jurisdiction so they have limits on how much volunteering you're allowed to do. The complaint specifically called that out; you'll note that he quoted them as mentioning that his contributions allegedly exceeded the volunteer exception. I have no idea what that limit actually is or whether it is true that he did, because I'm not European, thank God, but I'm going to guess the complainants probably checked and find that it's reasonably likely. Regardless, if he was directly assisting this EU group, he probably WAS required to keep track of the time spent.

It seems to me like, MOST LIKELY, his efforts were ancillary to the EU group itself and don't count for this, but I can't tell for sure because he doesn't seem to understand the difference well enough to explain.

The claims against Ross falls appart because it all hinges on being paid and not disclosing it which he wasn’t.

[Tinky Winky]

what he should be doing is normalizing the leaking of server software/game sourcecode
the fact that this doesn't happen far more often is ********, ******* ******** bootlickers working at companies

Just stop being obsessed with old ****** multiplayer only games that have already passed their expected lifespan.

[rusty_shackleford]

what he should be doing is normalizing the leaking of server software/game sourcecode
the fact that this doesn't happen far more often is ********, ******* ******** bootlickers working at companies

Just stop being obsessed with old ****** multiplayer only games that have already passed their expected lifespan.

No.