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[UltraFan123]

People who can do those things are dangerous because they can present a counter-narrative and cannot be dissuaded by being called names they don't care about because they have no respect for the name callers.
And, worse, they might just wake normies up to the truth using facts and reason which is a stronger mind changer than name calling and gaslighting.

You don't really believe this, do you? You're just using it as a rhetorical device?

The whole thing is blinkered, brother. But the idea that name-calling and gaslighting is less powerful as a motivator than the pursuit or exposition of truth really takes the cake.

I think the reason name-calling and gaslighting used to work was because leftards were banking on normies feeling guilt and/or fear of rejection.

Now if you remove that guilt and fear of rejection, then name-calling and gaslighting becomes powerless.

Those were the only tactics that the soy-filled and overweight leftards had to get their way because they never had any interest in actually doing things like researching nor critical thinking, since if they did then they would realize that their beliefs and world views were wrong.

[DemoGraph]

I like gaslighting. There's something very romantic about organization that goes through the town every evening to bring people light.

You can also pair them some anti-vampire night watch for a good measure.

[Rand]

People who can do those things are dangerous because they can present a counter-narrative and cannot be dissuaded by being called names they don't care about because they have no respect for the name callers.
And, worse, they might just wake normies up to the truth using facts and reason which is a stronger mind changer than name calling and gaslighting.

You don't really believe this, do you? You're just using it as a rhetorical device?

The whole thing is blinkered, brother. But the idea that name-calling and gaslighting is less powerful as a motivator than the pursuit or exposition of truth really takes the cake.

You missed the critical distinction I made.

Also, since when have these people been rational analysts, whether their fears or their likes?
They know their enemy is truth and decency and, like vampires and sunlight, they abhor it and seek to extinguish it from their environment.

[Kalarion]

People who can do those things are dangerous because they can present a counter-narrative and cannot be dissuaded by being called names they don't care about because they have no respect for the name callers.
And, worse, they might just wake normies up to the truth using facts and reason which is a stronger mind changer than name calling and gaslighting.

You don't really believe this, do you? You're just using it as a rhetorical device?

The whole thing is blinkered, brother. But the idea that name-calling and gaslighting is less powerful as a motivator than the pursuit or exposition of truth really takes the cake.

I think the reason name-calling and gaslighting used to work was because leftards were banking on normies feeling guilt and/or fear of rejection.

Now if you remove that guilt and fear of rejection, then name-calling and gaslighting becomes powerless.

Those were the only tactics that the soy-filled and overweight leftards had to get their way because they never had any interest in actually doing things like researching nor critical thinking, since if they did then they would realize that their beliefs and world views were wrong.

Name-calling and gaslighting didn't "used to work", they work just as well today as they have for the last couple thousand years. The fact one side's name-calling is ****-weak right now, and easy to laugh off, doesn't mean it doesn't work, it means they suck at it. Have you not noticed that the Right flips sick zingers at the Left with near-impunity right now?

Again, it's not Truth or its pursuit per se that allows us to "wake normies up". It's that we can be seen to completely BTFO limp-wristed ******* on the interwebs. I will concede the point in one way - part of the reason the Right is so good at those zingers and BTFOs so regularly is because it's closer to Truth than the Left.

But it's the BTFOs and the zingers that move the masses. This has been understood (and loathed by people like Rand - or, not to put too fine a point on it, myself) since Antiquity. Where do you think the whole school of Rhetorics came from?

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You missed the critical distinction I made.

Also, since when have these people been rational analysts, whether their fears or their likes?
They know their enemy is truth and decency and, like vampires and sunlight, they abhor it and seek to extinguish it from their environment.

This completely misses the point. "Rational analysis" (leaving aside the immense danger in the idolization of rationalizing) is a supporting factor, not the thing itself. The fact that truth and decency are anathema to the Left didn't give them one iota of pause in their Long March, nor did it keep them from their goal. The rhetoric is critically important. The Truth should power your rhetorics, but never make the mistake of thinking that Truth on its own will do what rhetoric was meant for.

The Right's Truthseekers have been getting persecuted, ignored, sidelined and crushed for decades, despite doing exactly what you're talking about. We don't need a Hitchens or a Buchanan attempting to sway the masses, we need a Buchanan advising a Trump. Do you see what I mean here?

[Bertram_Tung]

You don't really believe this, do you? You're just using it as a rhetorical device?

The whole thing is blinkered, brother. But the idea that name-calling and gaslighting is less powerful as a motivator than the pursuit or exposition of truth really takes the cake.

I think the reason name-calling and gaslighting used to work was because leftards were banking on normies feeling guilt and/or fear of rejection.

Now if you remove that guilt and fear of rejection, then name-calling and gaslighting becomes powerless.

Those were the only tactics that the soy-filled and overweight leftards had to get their way because they never had any interest in actually doing things like researching nor critical thinking, since if they did then they would realize that their beliefs and world views were wrong.

Name-calling and gaslighting didn't "used to work", they work just as well today as they have for the last couple thousand years. The fact one side's name-calling is ****-weak right now, and easy to laugh off, doesn't mean it doesn't work, it means they suck at it. Have you not noticed that the Right flips sick zingers at the Left with near-impunity right now?

Again, it's not Truth or its pursuit per se that allows us to "wake normies up". It's that we can be seen to completely BTFO limp-wristed ******* on the interwebs. I will concede the point in one way - part of the reason the Right is so good at those zingers and BTFOs so regularly is because it's closer to Truth than the Left.

But it's the BTFOs and the zingers that move the masses. This has been understood (and loathed by people like Rand - or, not to put too fine a point on it, myself) since Antiquity. Where do you think the whole school of Rhetorics came from?

---

You missed the critical distinction I made.

Also, since when have these people been rational analysts, whether their fears or their likes?
They know their enemy is truth and decency and, like vampires and sunlight, they abhor it and seek to extinguish it from their environment.

This completely misses the point. "Rational analysis" (leaving aside the immense danger in the idolization of rationalizing) is a supporting factor, not the thing itself. The fact that truth and decency are anathema to the Left didn't give them one iota of pause in their Long March, nor did it keep them from their goal. The rhetoric is critically important. The Truth should power your rhetorics, but never make the mistake of thinking that Truth on its own will do what rhetoric was meant for.

The Right's Truthseekers have been getting persecuted, ignored, sidelined and crushed for decades, despite doing exactly what you're talking about. We don't need a Hitchens or a Buchanan attempting to sway the masses, we need a Buchanan advising a Trump. Do you see what I mean here?

Uh excuse me xir, but a pedophile defender told me that "gaslighting" is an SJW only term and now you are WOKE RIGHT for using it.

[Rand]

You don't really believe this, do you? You're just using it as a rhetorical device?

The whole thing is blinkered, brother. But the idea that name-calling and gaslighting is less powerful as a motivator than the pursuit or exposition of truth really takes the cake.

I think the reason name-calling and gaslighting used to work was because leftards were banking on normies feeling guilt and/or fear of rejection.

Now if you remove that guilt and fear of rejection, then name-calling and gaslighting becomes powerless.

Those were the only tactics that the soy-filled and overweight leftards had to get their way because they never had any interest in actually doing things like researching nor critical thinking, since if they did then they would realize that their beliefs and world views were wrong.

Name-calling and gaslighting didn't "used to work", they work just as well today as they have for the last couple thousand years. The fact one side's name-calling is ****-weak right now, and easy to laugh off, doesn't mean it doesn't work, it means they suck at it. Have you not noticed that the Right flips sick zingers at the Left with near-impunity right now?

Again, it's not Truth or its pursuit per se that allows us to "wake normies up". It's that we can be seen to completely BTFO limp-wristed ******* on the interwebs. I will concede the point in one way - part of the reason the Right is so good at those zingers and BTFOs so regularly is because it's closer to Truth than the Left.

But it's the BTFOs and the zingers that move the masses. This has been understood (and loathed by people like Rand - or, not to put too fine a point on it, myself) since Antiquity. Where do you think the whole school of Rhetorics came from?

---

You missed the critical distinction I made.

Also, since when have these people been rational analysts, whether their fears or their likes?
They know their enemy is truth and decency and, like vampires and sunlight, they abhor it and seek to extinguish it from their environment.

This completely misses the point. "Rational analysis" (leaving aside the immense danger in the idolization of rationalizing) is a supporting factor, not the thing itself. The fact that truth and decency are anathema to the Left didn't give them one iota of pause in their Long March, nor did it keep them from their goal. The rhetoric is critically important. The Truth should power your rhetorics, but never make the mistake of thinking that Truth on its own will do what rhetoric was meant for.

The Right's Truthseekers have been getting persecuted, ignored, sidelined and crushed for decades, despite doing exactly what you're talking about. We don't need a Hitchens or a Buchanan attempting to sway the masses, we need a Buchanan advising a Trump. Do you see what I mean here?

You missed my point again.
I'm not going to bother explaining much of it, but note that I was talking about their fears and their reaction to them, and not any assessment of objective effectiveness of people's actions.

[adad]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

[logincrash]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

It'll all work out in the end. There's no need to despair.

[rusty_shackleford]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

the french

[DemoGraph]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

It'll all work out in the end. There's no need to despair.

Of course there is. Xir's swastika is mirrored.

[logincrash]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

It'll all work out in the end. There's no need to despair.

Of course there is. Xir's swastika is mirrored.

lmao
Reminds me of that time the anons on /v/ made a Human Holocaust mod for the Insomniac Spider-Man and were so ******** they used a mirrored swastika.

[TKVNC]

Woke is gay race communism. Rusty is right.

But if you want something a little more academic, I suppose it would simply be:

The Anti-Truth movement.

Since that's all it really is. It cannot allow for open discussion without fear of reprisal, since that would cause the movement to collapse. Every 'truth' must be unassailable. Because exposing a lie to scrutiny proves it false.

As for how they acheive it? They have the internet. A tool more powerful than anything the Bolsheviks or Stasi could ever dream of.

People openly allow themselves to be monitored, and the mass exposure allows hysteria to move quickly - lesser people can report thought 'crimes' with evidence at ligtning speed.

This allows sedition to be tracked and stamped out within moments.

Then, equally as fast, shaming people through their network of owned legacy-media and social media they scare people back into submission.

So it goes.

[adad]

They really do control everything. The video games, the movies, the academia, the job market, the governments, the social media, the news... It is impossible to escape them. They are everywhere. It makes me claustrophobic. How did we ever let it get this bad? Nobody believes their arguments, not even they themselves. And yet??????

It'll all work out in the end. There's no need to despair.

Of course there is. Xir's swastika is mirrored.

...****
I can't flip the image vertically either, because that will just mirror the swastika on the armband instead

[DemoGraph]

Insomniac Spider-Man

Maybe he is Tibetan under the hood.

[logincrash]

It'll all work out in the end. There's no need to despair.

Of course there is. Xir's swastika is mirrored.

...****
I can't flip the image vertically either, because that will just mirror the swastika on the armband instead

*****, 1 minute in paint.

[adad]

Of course there is. Xir's swastika is mirrored.

...****
I can't flip the image vertically either, because that will just mirror the swastika on the armband instead

*****, 1 minute in paint.

You are absolutely and utterly correct, my ******** *** was worried about inconsistent background if I only mirrored the swastika instead of the whole image. Except that I didn't consider 2 things:
Firstly, the image's background only had slight differences because I was looking at the original image with full resolution. In 128x128, everything is just the same shade of red.
And secondly, even in the full resolution image, amazingly, the only difference consists of uniform horizontal lines, which are completely immune to vertical flipping anyway.
I feel like a ******* bot. Thank you for correcting my ***. And for the new pfp.

[Tweed]

...****
I can't flip the image vertically either, because that will just mirror the swastika on the armband instead

*****, 1 minute in paint.

You are absolutely and utterly correct, my ******** *** was worried about inconsistent background if I only mirrored the swastika instead of the whole image. Except that I didn't consider 2 things:
Firstly, the image's background only had slight differences because I was looking at the original image with full resolution. In 128x128, everything is just the same shade of red.
And secondly, even in the full resolution image, amazingly, the only difference consists of uniform horizontal lines, which are completely immune to vertical flipping anyway.
I feel like a ******* bot. Thank you for correcting my ***. And for the new pfp.

******* amateur.