The Elder Scrolls

[rusty_shackleford]

little known fact but the FNV remake is already done, exactly one copy of it exists and it's in Todd's office behind a piece of glass labeled "BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY"

[Vergil]

After Starfield's failure, Bethesda is going to want to get back in good graces with Microsoft,

I assume that's what the Oblivion remake and the inevitable Fallout 3 remake is.

Bethesda isn't getting in good graces with anyone by oursourcing the remaking of their older games to the various third world sweatshops.

Pretty sure the slopmaster sold an incredible amount of money and was a pretty big success. Getting it done cheap and quick would only make microsoft happier.

[rusty_shackleford]

I assume that's what the Oblivion remake and the inevitable Fallout 3 remake is.

Bethesda isn't getting in good graces with anyone by oursourcing the remaking of their older games to the various third world sweatshops.

Pretty sure the slopmaster sold an incredible amount of money and was a pretty big success. Getting it done cheap and quick would only make microsoft happier.

Yea but microsoft could have done it without bethesda, they own the IPs now

[Vergil]

Bethesda isn't getting in good graces with anyone by oursourcing the remaking of their older games to the various third world sweatshops.

Pretty sure the slopmaster sold an incredible amount of money and was a pretty big success. Getting it done cheap and quick would only make microsoft happier.

Yea but microsoft could have done it without bethesda, they own the IPs now

Yeah but I mean more in terms of this is giving them some sort of return on investment for buying bethesda. It finally did something nice and successful. Not to mention the huge PR nightmare if they tried to detach bethesda from the IP. The Bethesda pedigree is a part of the marketing and value of the TES games imo.

[rusty_shackleford]

Pretty sure the slopmaster sold an incredible amount of money and was a pretty big success. Getting it done cheap and quick would only make microsoft happier.

Yea but microsoft could have done it without bethesda, they own the IPs now

Yeah but I mean more in terms of this is giving them some sort of return on investment for buying bethesda. It finally did something nice and successful. Not to mention the huge PR nightmare if they tried to detach bethesda from the IP. The Bethesda pedigree is a part of the marketing and value of the TES games imo.

I judge major studios based on how normies view them and starfield really hurt their reputation with normies

[Vergil]

Yea but microsoft could have done it without bethesda, they own the IPs now

Yeah but I mean more in terms of this is giving them some sort of return on investment for buying bethesda. It finally did something nice and successful. Not to mention the huge PR nightmare if they tried to detach bethesda from the IP. The Bethesda pedigree is a part of the marketing and value of the TES games imo.

I judge major studios based on how normies view them and starfield really hurt their reputation with normies

It hurt but slopmasters like this help.

[wndrbr]

Yeah but I mean more in terms of this is giving them some sort of return on investment for buying bethesda. It finally did something nice and successful.

this may satisfy the shareholders and a bunch of gamers who don't know how things being done. But imagine being the guy who runs Xbox. Would this satisfy you? You just spent an ungodly amount of money to purchase a company. And then that company immediately goes to ****, refuses to produces anything worthwhile, and tries to mask its impotency by outsourcing.

Not to mention the huge PR nightmare if they tried to detach bethesda from the IP. The Bethesda pedigree is a part of the marketing and value of the TES games imo.

they can always keep the brand while firing most of the staff except for Todd Howard and perhaps a bunch of specialists who know how to support their tech. That would be the correct thing to do, which means MS will definitely not going to do that.

[Vergil]

they can always keep the brand while firing most of the staff except for Todd Howard and perhaps a bunch of specialists who know how to support their tech. That would be the correct thing to do, which means MS will definitely not going to do that.

I mean isn't that basically what bethesda has done to themselves anyway? Who is even left besides like, Todd and Emil?

[wndrbr]

they can always keep the brand while firing most of the staff except for Todd Howard and perhaps a bunch of specialists who know how to support their tech. That would be the correct thing to do, which means MS will definitely not going to do that.

I mean isn't that basically what bethesda has done to themselves anyway? Who is even left besides like, Todd and Emil?

they actually have a very low turnover. Starfield's pre-release video with the devs giving interviews had names that I remember seeing in Morrowind's credits.

[Vergil]

they can always keep the brand while firing most of the staff except for Todd Howard and perhaps a bunch of specialists who know how to support their tech. That would be the correct thing to do, which means MS will definitely not going to do that.

I mean isn't that basically what bethesda has done to themselves anyway? Who is even left besides like, Todd and Emil?

they actually have a very low turnover. Starfield's pre-release video with the devs giving interviews had names that I remember seeing in Morrowind's credits.

I don't really know enough to argue that I just know there was some guy who was apparently a big quest designer who quit Bethesda like right after Starfield released iirc

[wndrbr]

I mean isn't that basically what bethesda has done to themselves anyway? Who is even left besides like, Todd and Emil?

they actually have a very low turnover. Starfield's pre-release video with the devs giving interviews had names that I remember seeing in Morrowind's credits.

I don't really know enough to argue that I just know there was some guy who was apparently a big quest designer who quit Bethesda like right after Starfield released iirc

yeah that was a guy with a chinese name, he became famous as their big quest designer after headlining Fo4 Far Harbor expansion (which had shockingly good writing when compared to Beth' prior games). He wasn't fired, he probably realized where things are going and decided to abandon the sinking ship. Or maybe he just got burnt out due to Starfield's production being messy.

[rusty_shackleford]

seems like they promoted all the fat women that stuck around for years

[rusty_shackleford]

wtf

Producers Michel Beaudin, Sam Bernstein, Charles-William Bibaud, Pierre-Olivier Boudreau, Eric Brodie, Dominic Colabelli, Jessica Daniels, Eve Eschenbacher, Jesse Flanagan, Emanuel Garcia, Nathan Hahn, Lance Howell, Maja Jevremovic, Kevin Kauffman, Chris Krueger, Eli Luna, Marisa Lyon, Jamie Mallory, Michael Merriam, Jack Moore, Drew Napoli, Philip Nelson, Jonathan Pack, Max Phippeny, Andrew Scharf, Michael Scharf, David Stricker, Kevin Thomas, Sébastien Viard, Taylor Welling

[rusty_shackleford]

how the **** did starfield have more PRODUCERS than morrowind had developers total??

[Vergil]

seems like they promoted all the fat women that stuck around for years

Pontificate on the scent

[rusty_shackleford]

not a single one of the producers on starfield worked on morrowind

impressive

[Vergil]

not a single one of the producers on starfield worked on morrowind

impressive

Is that why you like Starfield?

[Acrux]

Producer is basically a nu-title now for a mix of project manager and ops (not in the IT sense). I've only seen people early in career with that title.

Still shameful.

[KnightoftheWind]

they finally made morrowind playable

The Codex will now love Morrowind.

[Hurtyy]

Wow, I can't even hope for ES6 to be good anymore.

Thanks, I guess.

You had hope on this one?

A sliver was still there. Oh well. Hopefully there will be a better ES-like released sometime in the next few years.

There is the polish one released recently

[rusty_shackleford]

They finally made morrowind good

[asf]

that ui is incredibly ********

[Roguey]

they can always keep the brand while firing most of the staff except for Todd Howard and perhaps a bunch of specialists who know how to support their tech. That would be the correct thing to do, which means MS will definitely not going to do that.

I mean isn't that basically what bethesda has done to themselves anyway? Who is even left besides like, Todd and Emil?

they actually have a very low turnover. Starfield's pre-release video with the devs giving interviews had names that I remember seeing in Morrowind's credits.

Yeah Bethesda's big problem isn't that devs left, it's that they went from slow growth with 40 devs for Morrowind, 70 for Oblivion, 90 for Fallout 3 and Skyrim and 110 for Fallout 4 to over 500 for Starfield.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/starf ... nal-quest/

According to Shen and Brigner, the sheer number of people working on a game across different studios can cause problems. "It's more difficult than ever to know who does what, who you're supposed to report to," Brigner said. A fractured team can also create a "silo effect," where "every department is scrambling for resources and saying 'no' to collaboration requests," said Shen. This can lead to the "inadvertent consequence of favoring the department" over the needs of the game, as well as slowing even basic collaboration between departments to a crawl.

"Every request now has to go through all the producers because we needed to check all of the contingent work," Shen said. "Asking for something as simple as a chair wasn't so simple. Do you need animations for it? Do you need sound effects for it? How much does that add to the schedule, can it not fit because one of those teams does not have the time?"

[rusty_shackleford]

Sometimes I'll talk to people who played skyrim and all they did was just walk around. Genuine npcs, we should populate a game with them for the rest of us to enjoy.

[Stack of Turtles]

Genuine npcs, we should populate a game with them for the rest of us to enjoy.

What did you think this is?

[swbgtoc]

Sometimes I'll talk to people who played skyrim and all they did was just walk around. Genuine npcs, we should populate a game with them for the rest of us to enjoy.

Walking around is the best part of the game

[Hurtyy]

Sometimes I'll talk to people who played skyrim and all they did was just walk around. Genuine npcs, we should populate a game with them for the rest of us to enjoy.

I mean tbf, exploration is the strongest part of the game, World design was Bethesda strong suit until they ****** that up in Starfield too

[Revyscutlass]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

[TKVNC]

Now now children, don't you go be le heckin' racist to ALL Altmer! Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism? Be careful! Don't be stupid like the people telling me I'm stupid for saying fantasy racism can't go too far now!

What a loser, lol, lmao even.

[rusty_shackleford]

Did you know that fantasy racism trains the same part of the brain as REAL racism?