Starfield vs Baldur's Gate 3

[wndrbr]

Interesting numbers. Usually big games tend to peak early, and then the number of players starts to dwindle. Starfield started low, but now it's slowly rising.

[maidenhaver]

They have lives and had to wait for the weekend, others got tired of bg3 and moved on to the next game.

[Shillitron]

Interesting numbers. Usually big games tend to peak early, and then the number of players starts to dwindle. Starfield started low, but now it's slowly rising.

This is still pretty abysmal for a Bethesda game.
I was expecting this to blow BG3 out of the water day one EA.

[Pretty Princess]

This is still pretty abysmal for a Bethesda game.
I was expecting this to blow BG3 out of the water day one EA.

People care more about IPs than companies. BG3 is the perfect reverse example of this. The Starfield numbers are fine for a new IP.

[rusty_shackleford]

Interesting numbers. Usually big games tend to peak early, and then the number of players starts to dwindle. Starfield started low, but now it's slowly rising.

This is still pretty abysmal for a Bethesda game.
I was expecting this to blow BG3 out of the water day one EA.

Gamepass.

[maidenhaver]

Why do the numbers matter? As if BGS knew how to make any other game if they had to.

[wndrbr]

Interesting numbers. Usually big games tend to peak early, and then the number of players starts to dwindle. Starfield started low, but now it's slowly rising.

[The_Mask]

Between BG III and Armored Core things can get real rough.

[maidenhaver]

I haven't heard anybody talking about BG3 or Starfield at the local game/hobby shop, only Armored Core.

[Lich]

Turns out there are less degenerates in real life than the internet wants you to think.

[Pretty Princess]

Turns out there are less degenerates in real life than the internet wants you to think.

Or maybe it's hecking anecdotal evidence. In my circles BG3 is very popular. Doesn't mean anything.

[Lich]

Turns out there are less degenerates in real life than the internet wants you to think.

Or maybe it's hecking anecdotal evidence. In my circles BG3 is very popular. Doesn't mean anything.

Or maybe your circles are hecking gay.

[maidenhaver]

Turns out there are less degenerates in real life than the internet wants you to think.

Or maybe it's hecking anecdotal evidence. In my circles BG3 is very popular. Doesn't mean anything.

I don't trust cold, hard numbers, just anecdotes and personal experience.

[wndrbr]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/starfield ... ear-so-far

Starfield is the fifth biggest game launch in Europe this year (so far)

And that is without Game Pass data

Starfield was comfortably No.1 across Europe during its launch week, GSD data shows. The Xbox game, which is also on PC, became the fastest-selling new IP of the year, and the fifth fastest-selling game of the year overall. Its launch sales are ahead of Final Fantasy 16 and Resident Evil 4, but behind Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo IV, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and Star Wars Jedi: Survivor.

The data isn't quite like-for-like, as Starfield was technically available a week earlier for those who purchased the premium edition, so had a few extra days of sales. Starfield was also a day one Xbox Game Pass release, and that data isn't included here, either. The game just about comes ahead of Forza Horizon 5 as the biggest Xbox launch this generation across Europe.

[rusty_shackleford]

And that is without Game Pass data

Completely worthless.

[gerey]

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/starfield ... ear-so-far

Starfield is the fifth biggest game launch in Europe this year (so far)

And that is without Game Pass data

Starfield was comfortably No.1 across Europe during its launch week, GSD data shows. The Xbox game, which is also on PC, became the fastest-selling new IP of the year, and the fifth fastest-selling game of the year overall. Its launch sales are ahead of Final Fantasy 16 and Resident Evil 4, but behind Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo IV, The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and Star Wars Jedi: Survivor.

The data isn't quite like-for-like, as Starfield was technically available a week earlier for those who purchased the premium edition, so had a few extra days of sales. Starfield was also a day one Xbox Game Pass release, and that data isn't included here, either. The game just about comes ahead of Forza Horizon 5 as the biggest Xbox launch this generation across Europe.

It might sound funny when put like that, but it's basically contending with the likes of Hogwarts Legacy, Diablo IV, Zelda, Call of Duty, GTA etc., so it's arguably selling very well, and likely ballooning Gamepass subscription numbers, and sales are bound to remain steady and see a significant uptick once the mod tools are released.

[maidenhaver]

Games as subscription will ony further insulate devs from players. ****** reviews and poor sales won't matter, because devs only need C O N T E N T to fill the gamer pass e-shop. And when you need a pile of **** fast, who do you call? The dotheads.

[wndrbr]

meanwhile according to Steamspy BG3 has from 10 to 20 million copies sold in Steam alone.

[Vergil]

In Baldur's Gate 3 I can **** a mindflayer and pet an owlbear cub.
GOTY material for me

******* do seem to be the target audience

Are we tho?
The companions are just a bunch of characters that can romance with anyone.
Not the first time Larian did that. Divinity's Original Sin II is very similar in that regard, and I don't recall any uproar about it.

Maybe Larian is just a studio for ******* like myself, or just take bunch of romance-with-any characters from BioWare and multiply it by 6.

It's nice to romance any character without mods tho, so I don't mind. Game's good even without it.
Possibility of romancing anyone is just a bunch of cherries on top of the already delicious cake

What character did you romance?

meanwhile according to Steamspy BG3 has from 10 to 20 million copies sold in Steam alone.

10-20 million is a massive amount of variation where are they even getting those numbers

[wndrbr]

10-20 million is a massive amount of variation where are they even getting those numbers

steamspy has access to steam api. 10-20 variation is for the plebs, if you're a patron you can see the exact number.

[Vergil]

10-20 million is a massive amount of variation where are they even getting those numbers

steamspy has access to steam api. 10-20 variation is for the plebs, if you're a patron you can see the exact number.

Sounds hebronic.

[agentorange]

It's not really information that you're entitled to, and I would imagine setting up a site like that and maintaining it takes effort, time, and money, so if he wants to give part of it away for free and charge money for other parts that's his business, especially if it keeps the site ad free.

[Vergil]

It's not really information that you're entitled to, and I would imagine setting up a site like that and maintaining it takes effort, time, and money, so if he wants to give part of it away for free and charge money for other parts that's his business, especially if it keeps the site ad free.

It's utterly pointless to give out such massively vague numbers like "10-20" million. It's literally "it could be this number or double that number". Might as well make it patron only at that point.

[NEG]

BG3 still hasn't released on Macs iirc. Not that a lot of people use a Mac for games.

[wndrbr]

It's not really information that you're entitled to, and I would imagine setting up a site like that and maintaining it takes effort, time, and money, so if he wants to give part of it away for free and charge money for other parts that's his business, especially if it keeps the site ad free.

Originally steamapi was open for everybody to extract the exact sale numbers. Once SteamSpy became big enough to attract attention, videogame publishers asked Gabe to shut the leak since freely available number of sales may affect stocks and hurt their business. Valve did some obfuscation to make it harder for spies to extract data, but it's still possible - just more resource-intensive.

By the way, the guy who created SteamSpy is Sergei Galyonkin, Director of Publishing Strategy at Epic Games Store. Obvious corporate espionage.

[agentorange]

It's not really information that you're entitled to, and I would imagine setting up a site like that and maintaining it takes effort, time, and money, so if he wants to give part of it away for free and charge money for other parts that's his business, especially if it keeps the site ad free.

Originally steamapi was open for everybody to extract the exact sale numbers. Once SteamSpy became big enough to attract attention, videogame publishers asked Gabe to shut the leak since freely available number of sales may affect stocks and hurt their business. Valve did some obfuscation to make it harder for spies to extract data, but it's still possible - just more resource-intensive.

By the way, the guy who created SteamSpy is Sergei Galyonkin, Director of Publishing Strategy at Epic Games Store. Obvious corporate espionage.

I mean it's not as if he has some privileged access to the information, correct? If someone else wanted to they could put in the effort to get the obfuscated information and share it? But people would rather use the pre-existing system that this guy made, so he gets to charge money for it. I don't really see an issue.

[wndrbr]

I don't disagree, was just dropping bits of lore.

[wndrbr]

even a three years old game mogs Todd now.

[aweigh]

Haven't read the whole thread but...

Starfield is WAY more pozzed and woke than BG3.

(Also a worse game too).

[Shillitron]

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