Stormcloaks or Imperials?

[Vergil]

Honorable nord who cares about traditions basically bringing an AK-47 to a boxing match to prove he's the rightful king lul

[Tweed]

They try really hard to dissuade you from fighting for the stormcloaks if you're an argonian.

[Vergil]

Stormcloak ****** will decry elves as scheming magic users and then Ulfric will show up to a meeting the High King held in good faith (he actually admired Ulfric a lot) only to immediately challenge him to a duel to the death while using ancient nordic super magic to instagib him in front of his family

[ArcaneLurker]

Skill issue.

[Demonic Fate]

They try really hard to dissuade you from fighting for the stormcloaks if you're an argonian.

Well duh, they want to kick you out and/or make you a second-class citizen. It would be like, I dunno, a homosexual defending muslims, can you imagine?

[rusty_shackleford]

You're saying the guy with the same power Talos had managed to dethrone the weak high king that was willing to go along with ending Talos worship?
****, almost like it might have been divine intervention or something.

[Vergil]

Jarvis pull up who the Empire's first Emperor was

[7Trickster]

When I started the game back in 2011, I went with Stormcloaks without a second thought. Defending your country and your culture is the most basic and logical thing to me.
I never liked Imperials much in Oblivion, and the fact Hammerfell left the Empire, ****** and solo-ed the elves by pushing them back from their lands means to me Skyrim can do so just aswell, if not make an Alliance. Many Empire dickriders never bothered to read properly the Thalmor dossier, which says clearly that Stormcloaks nor Empire should win. Stormcloaks aren't puppets.

I tried the Empire and it feels real bad. Like being a scumbag helping the WEF boomers to take control of a land they have no rights to.
Also why the **** would side with corrupt asses who were totally fine with beheading you for no real reason and no proof you were a Stormcloak ?

I always played a female redguard in Skyrim. I like Hammerfell and its people, they're interesting. Pity Bethesda just exploits them for woke points nowadays.

[rusty_shackleford]

Hard to think of anything more ****** than allowing an enemy to force you to outlaw worshiping your own emperor.
"muh peace treaty… it wasn't a loss…"
Japan post-WW2 status. Completely buckbroken, will never recover.
They're even effectively occupied by Thalmor, who have patrols in supposed imperial territory.

Next game will have imperials drawing porn of their women being raped by tentacles while their population dwindles.

[SniperChris]

Only thing close to an argument empiretards have is a letter. There's no evidence to back up what the letter says, and it could have been flat out disinformation purposely planted there. Nothing suggests he's ever a sleeper agent.

OTOH:
Empire is incredibly weak. They rely almost entirely on nords for their military at this point.
Tying back into that point, the redguards seceded from the empire and continued to fight the Aldmeri to a stalemate and secured a treaty on their own terms, by themselves.
The empire willingly accepted a treaty that placed undue burdens specifically on the one peoples that made up the bulk of their fighting forces in the war.
The empire is crumbling, there is nothing to gain from staying in it. They couldn't defeat the Aldmeri with a larger, more powerful empire — why would a weaker one protect them?


The story is written so in favor of the Nords that anyone actually pro-Empire is just being a contrarian or connects it to real life issues and therefore opposes the nords because "muh nazis"

[edit]
Forgot to add that the same document empiretards cite specifically says they do NOT want the nords to win the war. Which destroys their entire argument.

What annoys me is I think Ulfric is a bad leader. Dragons appear and until the Dragonborn forces him to the table, he still wants to focus on the civil war. Wish we could make Jarl Ballin the leader.

[Vergil]

I always played a female redguard in Skyrim.

Your based stormcuck ladies(male) and gentlemen

[7Trickster]

Hard to think of anything more ****** than allowing an enemy to force you to outlaw worshiping your own emperor.
"muh peace treaty… it wasn't a loss…"
Japan post-WW2 status. Completely buckbroken, will never recover.

Next game will have imperials drawing porn of their women being raped by tentacles while their population dwindles.

Empire and milk-drinkers/elf cockriders like Vergil = Current state of the West.

Even in 2011, when I was a normal lefty (just about workers rights and all, not this gay gender ********), patriotism and defending YOUR country from what you said, an invading force (2 in fact, if you count the Imperials who suck Thalmor's dicks)... Just felt natural to go with the Cloaks.

[logincrash]

When I started the game back in 2011, I went with Stormcloaks without a second thought. Defending your country and your culture is the most basic and logical thing to me.
I never liked Imperials much in Oblivion, and the fact Hammerfell left the Empire, ****** and solo-ed the elves by pushing them back from their lands means to me Skyrim can do so just aswell, if not make an Alliance. Many Empire dickriders never bothered to read properly the Thalmor dossier, which says clearly that Stormcloaks nor Empire should win. Stormcloaks aren't puppets.

I tried the Empire and it feels real bad. Like being a scumbag helping the WEF boomers to take control of a land they have no rights to.
Also why the **** would side with corrupt asses who were totally fine with beheading you for no real reason and no proof you were a Stormcloak ?

I always played a female redguard in Skyrim. I like Hammerfell and its people, they're interesting. Pity Bethesda just exploits them for woke points nowadays.

With every new post of yours you sound more like a ****** than Vergil when he's verbally thirsting for twinks.

[7Trickster]

I always played a female redguard in Skyrim.

Your based stormcuck ladies(male) and gentlemen

What can I say, I like tanned skintones.
And that stamina racial is great. No pussy elf caster shite.

With every new post of yours you sound more like a ****** than Vergil when he's verbally thirsting for twinks.

****

[Vergil]

What can I say, I like tanned skintones.

[7Trickster]

What can I say, I like tanned skintones.

You know tanned skin can also concern latin folk right ?

[logincrash]

What can I say, I like tanned skintones.

You know tanned skin can also concern latin folk right ?

Redguards are *******.
You could just play as a bronzed Imperial.

[rusty_shackleford]

Redguards are *******.

They're meant to be berbers innit

[Reichspepe]

I always played a female redguard in Skyrim. I like Hammerfell and its people, they're interesting. Pity Bethesda just exploits them for woke points nowadays.

My salute excludes the cited part, yikes dawg

[Vergil]

Redguards are *******.

They're meant to be berbers innit

Not since the 90s

[7Trickster]

Redguards are *******.

They're meant to be berbers innit

Not sure, from what I read way back in the day is that they took inspiration from African, Middle East cultures, probably others in the mix too.

Redguards are *******.
You could just play as a bronzed Imperial.

With mods ? Probably, with vanilla skintones the most tanned skintone is like a rotten corpse. Never liked being an Imperial too.
Redguards are fine and fun, you don't have to assimilate them to the dumbasses causing trouble in the West even though sadly the ******* at Bethesda do, because they got hijacked by the wokeshit.

[Ligrev]

Only thing close to an argument empiretards have is a letter. There's no evidence to back up what the letter says, and it could have been flat out disinformation purposely planted there. Nothing suggests he's ever a sleeper agent.

OTOH:
Empire is incredibly weak. They rely almost entirely on nords for their military at this point.
Tying back into that point, the redguards seceded from the empire and continued to fight the Aldmeri to a stalemate and secured a treaty on their own terms, by themselves.
The empire willingly accepted a treaty that placed undue burdens specifically on the one peoples that made up the bulk of their fighting forces in the war.
The empire is crumbling, there is nothing to gain from staying in it. They couldn't defeat the Aldmeri with a larger, more powerful empire — why would a weaker one protect them?


The story is written so in favor of the Nords that anyone actually pro-Empire is just being a contrarian or connects it to real life issues and therefore opposes the nords because "muh nazis"

[edit]
Forgot to add that the same document empiretards cite specifically says they do NOT want the nords to win the war. Which destroys their entire argument.

What annoys me is I think Ulfric is a bad leader. Dragons appear and until the Dragonborn forces him to the table, he still wants to focus on the civil war. Wish we could make Jarl Ballin the leader.

For me the poll's question is inseparable from the fact there is a Dragonborn and he is a big, ******* deal. Skyrim doesn't need a dum dum High King, it needs a godlike person that will unite Skyrim, then the Empire.

Ulfric as a whipped altmeri ****** imbecile actually forces the Legion to enforce the Talos worship ban.

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I actually prefer Titus Mede to Dumbfric.

[Vergil]

So Ulfric is basically a Tarrant style ******** accelerationist who made everything worse with his un-nuanced spergery

[7Trickster]

So Ulfric is basically a Tarrant style ******** accelerationist who made everything worse with his un-nuanced spergery

To be fair both sides are kind of ********. I still feel Stormcloaks are in the right.
The altmers would have found out anyway at some point, since they're looking at any excuse to weaken human nations.

[Vergil]

So Ulfric is basically a Tarrant style ******** accelerationist who made everything worse with his un-nuanced spergery

Mugup da doodup mufugga bix nood

Thank you for weighing in my chocolate comrade

[7Trickster]

So Ulfric is basically a Tarrant style ******** accelerationist who made everything worse with his un-nuanced spergery

Mugup da doodup mufugga bix nood

Thank you for weighing in my chocolate comrade

Anytime

[SniperChris]

Stormcloak ****** will decry elves as scheming magic users and then Ulfric will show up to a meeting the High King held in good faith (he actually admired Ulfric a lot) only to immediately challenge him to a duel to the death while using ancient nordic super magic to instagib him in front of his family

Uhhhh Zased?

[Vergil]

Stormcloaks are groyper coded

[WaterMage]

Ulfric is a traitor

False. The empire promissed freedom of religion to him and ... Betrayed him.

Honorable nord who cares about traditions basically

Hard to think of anything more ****** than allowing an enemy to force you to outlaw worshiping your own emperor.

bringing an AK-47 to a boxing match to prove he's the rightful king lul

False. He used his blood powers. Nothing in Nordic traditions bans the usage of shouts.

Hard to think of anything more ****** than allowing an enemy to force you to outlaw worshiping your own emperor.

Worse than that. The empire allows Thalmor to kidnaps and torture to death anyone which the thalmor accuses of worshiping Talos.

You can not even care about Talos and because a random Thalmor didn't liked that you are trying to sell armor enchanted to resist magic to either side, be accused of worshiping Talos. Thalmor will be the judge, jury and executioner.

Thalmor in Empire Skyrim has more authority than Jarls.

There is a quest Missing in Action. Thalmor keeps someoen arrested without trial, without evidence and no one can do anything. A Jarl can't do it.

[Lhynn]

This might be the dumbest thing I've read on this forum...
To the average *****, the Stormcloaks are literally maga.

This isnt true, the empire is America, and the stormcloaks are basically lefties. The Thalmor are the ****.

The Nords didnt resist the empires colonization, they actually welcomed it by most accounts, it brought civilization to their lands.

Thats mostly been my experience in Elder Scroll RP servers. I actually played a Nord for one season, and the poor dude was conflicted, because his own people had forgotten their past and were all too happy to serve the empire, while to most the stormcloaks struggle was gay as ****.

I think they tilted the storytelling heavily towards the stormcloaks in the game because they were worried no player would ever pick them.