Woke Content Detector's Curated List of Games

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You guys went too far in antiwoke direction.

Nowhere near far enough.

Seriously, I've selectively scanned the list and it's bad both from inclusion and omission standpoints.

Inclusions

BG2 genderswap. So what? Genderswap pranks and jokes were present through the whole human history. There's even an urban legend about pope giving birth. Were they all "woke"?
Bloodlines - "subtly pro-LGBT", lel.
Deus Ex - pro-transhumanism. Srsly? It's a goddamn cyberpunk franchise.
Dwarf Fortress and Morrowind both are basically "at rates reflective of real world demographics". What's so informational about including them? Should you pay special attention to the real life? (probably we all should)
Factorio "subtly pro-climate action messaging". ******* seriously? You can't progress there at all without polluting **** like hell and killing ecoactivists. In the expansion you have to pollute several planets to win the game.
"Hardspace: Shipbreaker is woke, because it shows you playing for the union and so is anticapitalist." Marx was woke? Jesus was woke? Are you going to state that all *punk genres are woke now? Seriously? (edit: nevermind, in that list you do.)

Omissions

Diablo, Sacred, Baldur's Gate, NWN, Dune, BloodRayne, Tomb Raider, Aliens franchises and derived games have strong women warriors.
Pretty much all MMOs feature women fighters. Don't forget to include WoW, Lineage(s) and everything else up to at least a ******* Ultima Online, because IIRC it didn't have gendered stats.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is pro-transhumanism, has eco propaganda and strong females. And Civs Call to Power 1/2 are as well.
Master or Orion 2 has Elerians.
Dominions series has homosexuals since about Dominions 3.
Morrowind shouldn't be in "informative" list, but rather "not recommended". It's obviously pro-LGBT, because ******* Vivec is ******* bisexual, daedra princes are able to switch sexes at will, "Lusty argonian maid" and Barenziah are zoophilic and Nerevar was ****** by Almalexia so hard he died.
You forgot that Satisfactory is basically anticapitalist, because MC is working for the over-the-top profit-focused totalitarian AI and all characters are females.
Syndicate wars and Satellite Reign are transhumanist and anticapitalist (and show soulless corporate slayers).
Offworld Trading Company is anticapitalist.

Now, I might be out of the loop, but for me the woke criterias in this list are too watered down to be meaningful.

If you're going to state that body modification is woke (pro-transhumanism), you're going to say that ******* Odin was woke.
Genderbenders are bad? Loki and Agni (Hinduic one) were homosexuals.
Anticapitalism is bad? You're stating that both anarchists, monarchists and a goddamn Catholic church are woke at the same time.

This list is sloven and bad and you should all feel bad.

You found your favourite game on the list and it feels like a personal attack on your sense of taste in games? Yeah, it happens to a lot of people.

Nope. Whatever you guys post there won't stop me from enjoying my "Gaylord simulator" (and the "Burning of the Whitehouse" DLC).

[rusty_shackleford]

Marx was woke? J

yes

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Marx was woke? J

yes

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

[rusty_shackleford]

Marx was woke? J

yes

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

[Tangerine]

Marx was woke? J

yes

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

"You're as bad as the people that want to subject your children to ***** pedos."

**** off.

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yes

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

[Valter]

You guys went too far in antiwoke direction.

Nowhere near far enough.

Seriously, I've selectively scanned the list and it's bad both from inclusion and omission standpoints.

Inclusions

BG2 genderswap. So what? Genderswap pranks and jokes were present through the whole human history. There's even an urban legend about pope giving birth. Were they all "woke"?
Bloodlines - "subtly pro-LGBT", lel.
Deus Ex - pro-transhumanism. Srsly? It's a goddamn cyberpunk franchise.
Dwarf Fortress and Morrowind both are basically "at rates reflective of real world demographics". What's so informational about including them? Should you pay special attention to the real life? (probably we all should)
Factorio "subtly pro-climate action messaging". ******* seriously? You can't progress there at all without polluting **** like hell and killing ecoactivists. In the expansion you have to pollute several planets to win the game.
"Hardspace: Shipbreaker is woke, because it shows you playing for the union and so is anticapitalist." Marx was woke? Jesus was woke? Are you going to state that all *punk genres are woke now? Seriously? (edit: nevermind, in that list you do.)

Omissions

Diablo, Sacred, Baldur's Gate, NWN, Dune, BloodRayne, Tomb Raider, Aliens franchises and derived games have strong women warriors.
Pretty much all MMOs feature women fighters. Don't forget to include WoW, Lineage(s) and everything else up to at least a ******* Ultima Online, because IIRC it didn't have gendered stats.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is pro-transhumanism, has eco propaganda and strong females. And Civs Call to Power 1/2 are as well.
Master or Orion 2 has Elerians.
Dominions series has homosexuals since about Dominions 3.
Morrowind shouldn't be in "informative" list, but rather "not recommended". It's obviously pro-LGBT, because ******* Vivec is ******* bisexual, daedra princes are able to switch sexes at will, "Lusty argonian maid" and Barenziah are zoophilic and Nerevar was ****** by Almalexia so hard he died.
You forgot that Satisfactory is basically anticapitalist, because MC is working for the over-the-top profit-focused totalitarian AI and all characters are females.
Syndicate wars and Satellite Reign are transhumanist and anticapitalist (and show soulless corporate slayers).
Offworld Trading Company is anticapitalist.

Now, I might be out of the loop, but for me the woke criterias in this list are too watered down to be meaningful.

If you're going to state that body modification is woke (pro-transhumanism), you're going to say that ******* Odin was woke.
Genderbenders are bad? Loki and Agni (Hinduic one) were homosexuals.
Anticapitalism is bad? You're stating that both anarchists, monarchists and a goddamn Catholic church are woke at the same time.

This list is sloven and bad and you should all feel bad.

You found your favourite game on the list and it feels like a personal attack on your sense of taste in games? Yeah, it happens to a lot of people.

Nope. Whatever you guys post there won't stop me from enjoying my "Gaylord simulator" (and the "Burning of the Whitehouse" DLC).

Ehh, I generally agree with your sentiment but the list is far from sloven. Personal criteria for what constitutes "woke" or "not woke" aside, there's always a description for what type of content was detected, and a link to the source that encountered the content (video, images, etc). You are then free to determine by yourself if the mentioned content is enough to drive you away from the game.

For example I personally don't particularly care much about CCP censorship (Taiwan, Winnie The Pooh, etc), so even though it's marked as "not recommended" in the "woke content" list, I might very will try out Marvel Rivals sometime.

edit: nevermind. Although the "woke" content in a listed game is properly described, a lot of them don't have a source link, so slovenly is not a wrong description. Although I find little reason to doubt it, as the claims on the list are usually true.

[rusty_shackleford]

The point of the list is to prove how boiled the frog really is, and that just going back to liberal levels of ultra-woke isn't acceptable.

And crying about things missing, well, that's on you to report them.

[Greenman]

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

****** Marxist

[Faceless_Sentinel]

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

I ve tried, there is no use. People here believe that the USSR never collapsed, but simply renamed itself into Russia(also communistic country by the way), and that the trasngeders were invented by Marx, Lenin and Stalin to destroy the USA. You can't defeat usa 1950th propaganda.

[rusty_shackleford]

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

I ve tried, there is no use. People here believe that the USSR never collapsed, but simply renamed itself into Russia(also communistic country by the way), and that the trasngeders were invented by Marx, Lenin and Stalin to destroy the USA. You can't defeat usa 1950th propaganda.

Could you tell me what country is invading their neighbor with one of the goals being "denazification"?

[Acrux]

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

I'd love to know when you think the "culture wars" began. Because it's a lot earlier than you seem to realize.

Also, if anything the list is too accommodating. Just a quick look shows that Pillars of Eternity is on the Recommended list. It's quite sloppy.

[asf]

maybe rename it to autism list

[Lord of Riva]

If you act like woketards do, you become as bad as they are.

woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

This does not impact what is happening currently, all of feminism is cultural marxism too

[A Chinese opium den]

You gotta stop letting europeans post, its beyond stale.

[LemonDemonGirl]

Is this considered woke?

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woke means cultural marxism

Marx has died a little bit earlier than your culture wars began.

I'd love to know when you think the "culture wars" began. Because it's a lot earlier than you seem to realize.

In a wide sense they're as old as humanity. Because everyone always influences other people. And cultures (dis)appear constantly.
In a narrow sense - sexual revolution-derived political conflicts in USA and positive discrimination of negroes, supported by mass media and organized politics - I'd say they began during Cold War.

Also, if anything the list is too accommodating.

Exactly. Would you all be manly enough to include HoMM3 in there?
Because queen Catherine runs around tits blazing, there's a ****** vampire elf, pegasi are a raging band of melee radfems (stronger than the majority of boys and dwarves btw) and there's "a battle of the sexes" (sp) map?

[rusty_shackleford]

In a narrow sense - sexual revolution-derived political conflicts in USA and positive discrimination of negroes, supported by mass media and organized politics - I'd say they began during Cold War.

go look up the frankfurt university

Exactly. Would you all be manly enough to include HoMM3 in there?

yes

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In a narrow sense - sexual revolution-derived political conflicts in USA and positive discrimination of negroes, supported by mass media and organized politics - I'd say they began during Cold War.

go look up the frankfurt university

Are you referencing Buchanan's "Death of the West"?

[Eyestabber]

In a narrow sense - sexual revolution-derived political conflicts in USA and positive discrimination of negroes, supported by mass media and organized politics - I'd say they began during Cold War.

go look up the frankfurt university

Are you referencing Buchanan's "Death of the West"?

You can't possibly be that ignorant, Jesus Christ...

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go look up the frankfurt university

Are you referencing Buchanan's "Death of the West"?

You can't possibly be that ignorant, Jesus Christ...

I'm not Yankee. I don't know many of your local memes.

[Eyestabber]

Are you referencing Buchanan's "Death of the West"?

You can't possibly be that ignorant, Jesus Christ...

I'm not Yankee. I don't know many of your local memes.

Theodor Adorno, Herbert Marcuse, György Lukács, Sigmund Freud, Jean Paul Sartre, these are all American authors and completely unrelated to Karl Marx, apparently. Perhaps you would feel more at home in Reddit, with all the other pretentious ignoramus.

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You can't possibly be that ignorant, Jesus Christ...

I'm not Yankee. I don't know many of your local memes.

Theodor Adorno, Herbert Marcuse, György Lukács, Sigmund Freud, Jean Paul Sartre, these are all American authors and completely unrelated to Karl Marx, apparently. Perhaps you would feel more at home in Reddit, with all the other pretentious ignoramus.

Yes, I haven't read Marcuse and Lukacs because they're lefties, Sartre because I have more important things to do and only skimmed through Freud, because he's sociopathic.
What's your problem with Adorno? IIRC he rightfully criticized Marx.

[Lord of Riva]

I'm not Yankee. I don't know many of your local memes.

Theodor Adorno, Herbert Marcuse, György Lukács, Sigmund Freud, Jean Paul Sartre, these are all American authors and completely unrelated to Karl Marx, apparently. Perhaps you would feel more at home in Reddit, with all the other pretentious ignoramus.

Yes, I haven't read Marcuse and Lukacs because they're lefties, Sartre because I have more important things to do and only skimmed through Freud, because he's sociopathic.
What's your problem with Adorno? IIRC he rightfully criticized Marx.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Rusty is refering to this.

I for one agree with Peter Wright, the current cultural issues began in medieval times with the embrace of gynocentrism.

Marxism is feminine, because the feminine is the basis of collective thought vs the individual. Even all the claims of equity, or rather equating things that are not logically equal mirrors female perception of merit to a T.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Rusty is refering to this.

Yes, that I understood from the beginning. I don't understand, which take on it is widely accepted here.

I haven't really read through FS, but AFAIK, like most scientific schools of thought it's not a monolithic one and is open to interpretation (especially half a century after its most active period).

[Lord of Riva]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

Rusty is refering to this.

Yes, that I understood from the beginning. I don't understand, which take on it is widely accepted here.

I haven't really read through FS, but AFAIK, like most scientific schools of thought it's not a monolithic one and is open to interpretation (especially half a century after its most active period).

You can see the effects of FS of thought in out culture today and that has been driven since it's conception.

I do not understand your argument regarding it being monolithic, I mean I hear that a lot from feminists: "Feminism is not a monolith, therefore it is not right to oppose it as a whole" is something said to me on a daily basis. The issue is that it's underlying premise, just like with Marxism overall, has no basis in reality just like with the Patriarchy in feminism.

[mercerxiv]

Ok, I gotta ask: there's romance in Black Desert???? I sunk too many hours into that MMO and this is the first time reading about romance in BDO.
That said - it does include plenty of degenerate loli-bait/underage looking characters (shai and tamer classes), as well as skimpy/extremely sexualized outfits. Feel free to add that.

MH:World: while not overtly pozzed, does include "uglyfied" handler and lots of "diversity". Would recommend to at least downgrade to Informational.

Kingdom Come: Deliverance: has a DLC that goes down some rather feminist themes with Theresa girlbossing around. Not egregious as some modern offenders, but worth an Informational tag I think. Look into Woman's Lot DLC.

Mount & Blade: Bannerlord regrettably does allow player to girlboss and does feature female lords leading armies, albeit not too many.

Phantasy Star Online: body types, crossdressing, etc..

Final Fantasy XIV: definitely upgrade to pozzed. It does contain now all sorts of rainbow degeneracy, and a VA for one of the major characters in the latest expansion is explicitly a *****. They also coddle the corresponding audience suppressing any kind of "bad feelings" speech.

WH40K: Rogue Trader: pozzed, with the DLC includes a companion who swings both ways.

Baldur's Gate 1&2: I feel like it's worth adding standalone entries for non-beamdog versions/versions with beamdog original content disabled.

Also would be neat to have like a genre filter or something to filter games, in particular to filter out all of the "hyper indie" slop, clickers, and obviously degenerate games that have it in the name.

[rusty_shackleford]

WH40K: Rogue Trader: pozzed, with the DLC includes a companion who swings both ways.

Watching stuff that was considered the realm of chaos be normalized in WH40k is so funny.

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You can see the effects of FS of thought in out culture today and that has been driven since it's conception.

I'm Russian. I don't see your culture on a daily basis. For me it probably has about the same distance as a French one to you.

I do not understand your argument regarding it being monolithic

Frankfurt School had about 12 famous authors from sociology, psychology and other social sciences that wrote since 1920-s up to today. I'm partially familiar with Adorno, Horkheimer and Habermas (though I'll have to reread them if we begin to discuss a minutiae, because they're on periphery of my interests). And I can guarantee you that some of their views were incompatible with each other, because it always happens when a group of people writes for almost a century.

Most of the others from FS, IIRC, were pretty weak and famous only due to antinazi processes.

I don't really care what their non-sociologists wrote because what I've skimmed through was a pretty soft modern prose (Sartre).

[Kalarion]

Frankfurt School stuff

You're wandering from the point, which is that your initial criticism - "the list either goes too far, or doesn't go far enough" was unironically agreed with (it doesn't go far enough). To the examples you listed:

If there was a videogame that positively portrayed Odin's sacrifice and gouging out of his own eye as his body his choice, it would be woke. If it was just portrayed as what it was - "a sacrifice of himself, to himself" for the gaining of power - it would I suppose be debatable.

Loki being a *** and into horsefucking in a game would make it woke.

Where on earth did you get the idea monarchists or catholics are anti-capitalist?

The HOMM3 example isn't as hot of a take as you might have thought. It was already argued in this very thread and, if I remember correctly, Furin agreed that it probably fits being labelled woke.

Your criticism of the list as slovenly comes across as rude and mean-spirited given both the time and effort @Furin has put into it, and the fact he's doing something I want done (that is, helping me know which devs to avoid). It's fair though. I don't mind that it doesn't adhere to 100% academic rigor. It's a one-man operation whose scope clearly exceeds the work of one man. Personally I'd rather Furin be the sole owner and operator of the list, with the missed queues and spotty research that implies, than that it be some committee-driven ******** that we already have plenty of, thanks very much.

Furin makes up for missing stuff by actively researching new items brought to his attention.