Banquet for Fools - new game from the developers of Serpent in the Staglands and Copper Dreams aka Mechajammer

[The_Mask]

[Xenich]

Arcanum gave women -1 Strength and +1 Constitution (citing childbirth, iirc)

Wasn't that whole "women have a higher tolerance to pain" claim put to rest a while ago? There is a pain tolerance test that can be done, something about a tool that puts pressure somewhere on the spine. They found out that men have a higher tolerance for pain, which makes sense considering their natural role.

[maidenhaver]

Arcanum gave women -1 Strength and +1 Constitution (citing childbirth, iirc)

Wasn't that whole "women have a higher tolerance to pain" claim put to rest a while ago? There is a pain tolerance test that can be done, something about a tool that puts pressure somewhere on the spine. They found out that men have a higher tolerance for pain, which makes sense considering their natural role.

No. I think the show Inked made the myth popular again, by saying women do anal for free tattoos tolerate pain.

[Statesman]

Arcanum gave women -1 Strength and +1 Constitution (citing childbirth, iirc)

Wasn't that whole "women have a higher tolerance to pain" claim put to rest a while ago? There is a pain tolerance test that can be done, something about a tool that puts pressure somewhere on the spine. They found out that men have a higher tolerance for pain, which makes sense considering their natural role.

I mean, the scientific consensus is that studies reliably show men having higher pain thresholds and higher pain tolerance that women. That goes against some discrepant studies, childbirth comparisons and the popular media narrative. Makes wonder if they actually take into the difference ****/lesbians, teenagers/younger individuals, cultural differences could have in the pain reporting.

[1998]

Anyone recently played this one? They are at least frequently updating it, quite substantially by the looks of it.

► Show Spoiler

Patch 1.55

Additions, updates, UI, FIxes, and Controller tweaks noted below!

Additions:

~ Added: Check Point Save updates with save data when leaving a map (except during active combat)
~ Added functionality: When you tell companions to stay back they remain in their position instead of following 50 poles behind (during combat they will only attack if an enemy is near their wait position)
~ Added: Bound and pagan summoned creatures have small portraits in character docks that show health
~ Added: Favorites functionality for spells — in spellbook you can mark favorites and companion AI will prioritize spells on this list
~ Added: Characters attacking without any weapons or shields will automatically punch with left hand if Multi-Hand skill >= 50

Updates:

~ Ruleset Adjustment: Increased number of frogs, lizards and rollies that come from fauna spells
~ Increased potency of Vine Cocoon block chance
~ Flying creatures are no longer affected by ground spell effects
~ Multi-hand has second attack during rally attacks

UI:

~ Items will stack when moving them between characters
~ When crafting arrows and they stack, the stack has a highlight effect for feedback clarity
~ Pin to dock button is larger and easier to see

Fixes:

~ Fixed bug where you could open Assembly Kit in intercession menu
~ Fixed portrait positions for bakkas, shroomer flyer, bats and Lord Grave Keeper
~ Fixed bug where fox crown doesn’t disappear when enemy disappears
~ Fixed issue where map exits don’t show on mini-map when you come into level
~ Fixed bug where you could get victim badge for Deago but couldn’t pay a bribe
~ Fixed issue where you split ground items and item on ground becomes non interactable
~ Fixed bug where inn fighters camp site didn’t appear correctly when they leave inn
~ Fixed bug where inn fighters dialogue where you can send them to exile island without proof
~ Fixed bug where spellcrafting menu says missing rune if you change spells after drawing the rune
~ Fixed bug where Bakkas on trail north of Forten Lazure not all sleeping
~ Fixed area near cemetery/river where characters can get stuck
~ Fixed combat bar flicker when attacking a breakable object outside of combat
~ Fixed some overlapping text visual issues with character detail card
~ Removed inapplicable durability stat from fist description
~ Fixed Sela dialogue bug where if you slay greva before talking to her it skipped intro text
~ Ciprian has circlet as an item that can drop and be stolen
~ Fixed bug where overworld map fog clears when you change to fullscreen on Invimona map
~ Fixed bug where game feed inaccurately printed crop goblin evaded crop goblins attacks
~ Fixed visual issue where NPCs disappeared when party died
~ Chanter quest checks if sick guards are alive
~ Fixed text error with character details that switched “Too far” and “Hidden” message
~ Fixed bug where you could hover over map/door exits while in combat dome but not interact with them
~ Fixed bug where you could hover over items out of immediate range while in combat dome but not interact with them
~ Fixed bug where if you have committed a crime but you have other crimes to report, you’ll turn in first instead of bribe first when commencing bribe dialouge
~ Fix bug where a stunned dying during wait period didn’t take away badge posthumously
~ Fixed collision issue with stunned shroomers and crop goblins
~ Optimized pooling to prevent memory loss during long play throughs
~ Ghosts crawl back to original spots if they chase you so they stay near their grave keepers
~ Shrooomers spawned by mushroom in caves have rigid body deaths
~ Fixed graphics issue where shadows flickered when going to the top of the lighthouse
~ Fixed bug where foxes would hop after a charge attack was interrupted
~ Fixed bug with rally attacks where they were not removing full damage to enemy health
~ Fixed a bug where in rare instances items could not be picked up
~ Fixed a bug where resting was interrupted when underground but there weren’t enemies nearby
~ Fixed bug with notes where the scroll field was longer than the note
~ Fixed bug with fauna summons disappearing too early
~ Fixed bug where skill progress bars during level up didn’t match recorded progress from that level
~ Fixed a bug with Nelu’s dialogue where he was giving food to the wrong companion
~ Resting in cot/inn heals in percentage like blankets and shows correctly in Rest menu

Controllers:

~ Controller: Fixed bug with navigating map note pins
~ Controller: Updated controller scheme note for on screen keyboard
~ Controller: Moved pin note up so it can be seen over controller selection box

[DagothGeas5]

Anyone recently played this one? They are at least frequently updating it, quite substantially by the looks of it.

► Show Spoiler

Patch 1.55

Additions, updates, UI, FIxes, and Controller tweaks noted below!

Additions:

~ Added: Check Point Save updates with save data when leaving a map (except during active combat)
~ Added functionality: When you tell companions to stay back they remain in their position instead of following 50 poles behind (during combat they will only attack if an enemy is near their wait position)
~ Added: Bound and pagan summoned creatures have small portraits in character docks that show health
~ Added: Favorites functionality for spells — in spellbook you can mark favorites and companion AI will prioritize spells on this list
~ Added: Characters attacking without any weapons or shields will automatically punch with left hand if Multi-Hand skill >= 50

Updates:

~ Ruleset Adjustment: Increased number of frogs, lizards and rollies that come from fauna spells
~ Increased potency of Vine Cocoon block chance
~ Flying creatures are no longer affected by ground spell effects
~ Multi-hand has second attack during rally attacks

UI:

~ Items will stack when moving them between characters
~ When crafting arrows and they stack, the stack has a highlight effect for feedback clarity
~ Pin to dock button is larger and easier to see

Fixes:

~ Fixed bug where you could open Assembly Kit in intercession menu
~ Fixed portrait positions for bakkas, shroomer flyer, bats and Lord Grave Keeper
~ Fixed bug where fox crown doesn’t disappear when enemy disappears
~ Fixed issue where map exits don’t show on mini-map when you come into level
~ Fixed bug where you could get victim badge for Deago but couldn’t pay a bribe
~ Fixed issue where you split ground items and item on ground becomes non interactable
~ Fixed bug where inn fighters camp site didn’t appear correctly when they leave inn
~ Fixed bug where inn fighters dialogue where you can send them to exile island without proof
~ Fixed bug where spellcrafting menu says missing rune if you change spells after drawing the rune
~ Fixed bug where Bakkas on trail north of Forten Lazure not all sleeping
~ Fixed area near cemetery/river where characters can get stuck
~ Fixed combat bar flicker when attacking a breakable object outside of combat
~ Fixed some overlapping text visual issues with character detail card
~ Removed inapplicable durability stat from fist description
~ Fixed Sela dialogue bug where if you slay greva before talking to her it skipped intro text
~ Ciprian has circlet as an item that can drop and be stolen
~ Fixed bug where overworld map fog clears when you change to fullscreen on Invimona map
~ Fixed bug where game feed inaccurately printed crop goblin evaded crop goblins attacks
~ Fixed visual issue where NPCs disappeared when party died
~ Chanter quest checks if sick guards are alive
~ Fixed text error with character details that switched “Too far” and “Hidden” message
~ Fixed bug where you could hover over map/door exits while in combat dome but not interact with them
~ Fixed bug where you could hover over items out of immediate range while in combat dome but not interact with them
~ Fixed bug where if you have committed a crime but you have other crimes to report, you’ll turn in first instead of bribe first when commencing bribe dialouge
~ Fix bug where a stunned dying during wait period didn’t take away badge posthumously
~ Fixed collision issue with stunned shroomers and crop goblins
~ Optimized pooling to prevent memory loss during long play throughs
~ Ghosts crawl back to original spots if they chase you so they stay near their grave keepers
~ Shrooomers spawned by mushroom in caves have rigid body deaths
~ Fixed graphics issue where shadows flickered when going to the top of the lighthouse
~ Fixed bug where foxes would hop after a charge attack was interrupted
~ Fixed bug with rally attacks where they were not removing full damage to enemy health
~ Fixed a bug where in rare instances items could not be picked up
~ Fixed a bug where resting was interrupted when underground but there weren’t enemies nearby
~ Fixed bug with notes where the scroll field was longer than the note
~ Fixed bug with fauna summons disappearing too early
~ Fixed bug where skill progress bars during level up didn’t match recorded progress from that level
~ Fixed a bug with Nelu’s dialogue where he was giving food to the wrong companion
~ Resting in cot/inn heals in percentage like blankets and shows correctly in Rest menu

Controllers:

~ Controller: Fixed bug with navigating map note pins
~ Controller: Updated controller scheme note for on screen keyboard
~ Controller: Moved pin note up so it can be seen over controller selection box

After what I was told, though I would play it, I'd rather wait for release before I get disappointed. It's looking good thus far, but it can always make a sharp turn

[Finarfin]

[1998]

So, how much content is there currently? I thought they were closer to release, but that map....

[rusty_shackleford]

my thoughts on this game:
hannah is CUTE other than the very gummy smile

[maidenhaver]

We should all vote for an ocean tile, next time.

[maidenhaver]

my thoughts on this game:
hannah is CUTE other than the very gummy smile

Is she the hooded girl in the chargen from Staglands?

[Finarfin]

my thoughts on this game:
hannah is CUTE other than the very gummy smile

Is she the hooded girl in the chargen from Staglands?

Not to my knowledge.
I find it very wholesome that a married couple is making games that are very unique in both execution and style.

[The_Mask]

[maidenhaver]

Looks alright.

[rusty_shackleford]

Not particularly fond of the art-style but otherwise seems to be shaping up nicely.

[Irenaeus]

First person who appears is a woman warrior.

[The_Mask]

[Norfleet]

Arcanum gave women -1 Strength and +1 Constitution (citing childbirth, iirc)

Wasn't that whole "women have a higher tolerance to pain" claim put to rest a while ago? There is a pain tolerance test that can be done, something about a tool that puts pressure somewhere on the spine. They found out that men have a higher tolerance for pain, which makes sense considering their natural role.

That's because by making it a test, they've activated the competitive instinct. Therefore, men will tolerate it in the short-term out of pure desire to be competitive and not appear weak. That said, Con is also typically used for hitpoints, and there's no way women can physically withstand as much damage. Men simply have tougher skins, thicker and heavier bones, and larger organs, which means there's simply more hitpoints involved. They do, however, apparently have better immune systems, so at least Con is halfway justified. I would have given them +1 to Dex instead. There are just things little girly fingers can do that my man-hands will never manage, so I make the wife do it. Or the kids.

[Acrux]

Giving femoids +1 Dex in Arcanum. smdh. As if they need another way to go through life on easy mode.

[logincrash]

Women getting a CHA bonus only works if there's a First Impressions system in the game. I think Arcanum had one of those. Morrowind had a sorta similar system but based it around clothing.

[Acrux]

Women getting a CHA bonus only works if there's a First Impressions system in the game. I think Arcanum had one of those.

There is, but it's based on the Beauty stat, and is in fact the only thing Beauty does.

[rusty_shackleford]

There's no way to "balance" female characters because the sexes aren't balanced. Women simply aren't built for adventuring, end of story.

[Norfleet]

There's no way to "balance" female characters because the sexes aren't balanced. Women simply aren't built for adventuring, end of story.

Pretty much. Playing as a female should rightly just be playing the game on hardmode.

[maidenhaver]

There's no way to "balance" female characters because the sexes aren't balanced. Women simply aren't built for adventuring, end of story.

Pretty much. Playing as a female should rightly just be playing the game on hardmode.

Or easy.

[Unhelpful Contrarian]

There's no way to "balance" female characters because the sexes aren't balanced. Women simply aren't built for adventuring, end of story.

True. But I don’t see that changing at this point.

[rusty_shackleford]

[Fitz]

I am definitely playing this one. The art style is sick and the gameplay looks fun too. Just waiting for it to get out of early access.
The whole game has the same charm and cozy feeling of a really good PS1 game, but with a lot more polish.

Nowadays it's hard for me to get excited for a title but this one does it.

[Acrux]

HQ Bros....is this true?

[Fitz]

What's a crpg anyway.

[flecktarn]

If nothing else, it's looking much better than Mechajamer.