Dare you enter my magical realm?

[Atlantico]

The problem with role playing is that it attracts people who put an entirely different meaning and idea into the term "role-playing".

Hence ******.

[Lancaster]

The problem with role playing is that it attracts people who put an entirely different meaning and idea into the term "role-playing".

Hence ******.

Then they claim that the faggotry was there all along, and we were just too ignorant to see it back then. Just like there are conveniently now more prominent black figures portrayed in European history....and Japanese lol.

[Vergil]

DnD has an entire race based on femdom fetishes

[fkirenicus]

Then they claim that the faggotry was there all along, and we were just too ignorant to see it back then. Just like there are conveniently now more prominent black figures portrayed in European history....and Japanese lol.

Yep. As we all know, Anne Boleyn was black.

[Lancaster]

Then they claim that the faggotry was there all along, and we were just too ignorant to see it back then. Just like there are conveniently now more prominent black figures portrayed in European history....and Japanese lol.

Yep. As we all know, Anne Boleyn was black.

I had to look that one up lol, I had no idea they went as far to portray royalty as being black.

[Roguey]

Ed Greenwood always intended for the Forgotten Realms to be gay as hell, it was the risk-averse moneymen who kept it out of the role-playing games. https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd ... ality.html

In FR as Ed Greenwood envisioned it, polygamy and "free love" are very commonplace, and homosexual relationships are common without being controversial at all. Mind you, Greenwood in his own notes on the Realms was very explicit about the sexuality in the Realms (I believe you can find his extensive notes on the "Candlekeep" website, at least you used to be able to), and his notes are far more "mature" rated than any printed version of the Realms.

The earlier, TSR editions of the FR published material whitewashed this almost completely, because of the particular "morality code" that TSR had developed under Lorraine William's reign of terror.

However, the new WoTC FR is more "PG" in this subject matter, detailing openly several major NPCs who are homosexual, bisexual or polyamourous. Its done in a fairly low-keep way, just noting it as another little detail of the rich descriptiveness of the Realms as a setting.

[Atlantico]

Ed Greenwood always intended for the Forgotten Realms to be gay as hell, it was the risk-averse moneymen who kept it out of the role-playing games. https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd ... ality.html

In FR as Ed Greenwood envisioned it, polygamy and "free love" are very commonplace, and homosexual relationships are common without being controversial at all. Mind you, Greenwood in his own notes on the Realms was very explicit about the sexuality in the Realms (I believe you can find his extensive notes on the "Candlekeep" website, at least you used to be able to), and his notes are far more "mature" rated than any printed version of the Realms.

The earlier, TSR editions of the FR published material whitewashed this almost completely, because of the particular "morality code" that TSR had developed under Lorraine William's reign of terror.

However, the new WoTC FR is more "PG" in this subject matter, detailing openly several major NPCs who are homosexual, bisexual or polyamourous. Its done in a fairly low-keep way, just noting it as another little detail of the rich descriptiveness of the Realms as a setting.

Truth. In my adolescence I read many TSR fantasy novels, and one of them was Spellfire by Greenwood. Hypercringe stuff.

[Lancaster]

Ed Greenwood always intended for the Forgotten Realms to be gay as hell, it was the risk-averse moneymen who kept it out of the role-playing games. https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd ... ality.html

In FR as Ed Greenwood envisioned it, polygamy and "free love" are very commonplace, and homosexual relationships are common without being controversial at all. Mind you, Greenwood in his own notes on the Realms was very explicit about the sexuality in the Realms (I believe you can find his extensive notes on the "Candlekeep" website, at least you used to be able to), and his notes are far more "mature" rated than any printed version of the Realms.

The earlier, TSR editions of the FR published material whitewashed this almost completely, because of the particular "morality code" that TSR had developed under Lorraine William's reign of terror.

However, the new WoTC FR is more "PG" in this subject matter, detailing openly several major NPCs who are homosexual, bisexual or polyamourous. Its done in a fairly low-keep way, just noting it as another little detail of the rich descriptiveness of the Realms as a setting.

I looked into this a bit. Attractive bisexual women were only the ones mentioned pre-social contagion. I can really only find normalized homosexuality during the start of the social contagion (man-buns, metrosexuals, and emo ****) when everyone was getting on the gay agenda bandwagon.

[Stack of Turtles]

Ed Greenwood always intended for the Forgotten Realms to be gay as hell, it was the risk-averse moneymen who kept it out of the role-playing games. https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/dnd ... ality.html

In FR as Ed Greenwood envisioned it, polygamy and "free love" are very commonplace, and homosexual relationships are common without being controversial at all. Mind you, Greenwood in his own notes on the Realms was very explicit about the sexuality in the Realms (I believe you can find his extensive notes on the "Candlekeep" website, at least you used to be able to), and his notes are far more "mature" rated than any printed version of the Realms.

The earlier, TSR editions of the FR published material whitewashed this almost completely, because of the particular "morality code" that TSR had developed under Lorraine William's reign of terror.

However, the new WoTC FR is more "PG" in this subject matter, detailing openly several major NPCs who are homosexual, bisexual or polyamourous. Its done in a fairly low-keep way, just noting it as another little detail of the rich descriptiveness of the Realms as a setting.

I looked into this a bit. Attractive bisexual women were only the ones mentioned pre-social contagion. I can really only find normalized homosexuality during the start of the social contagion (man-buns, metrosexuals, and emo ****) when everyone was getting on the gay agenda bandwagon.

Yes, but that's because WotC limited what was allowed to be published. Hippies like Greenwood were basically keeping the candle burning under the bushel for what you think was the "start of the social contagion".

[rusty_shackleford]

TSR's FR was never Greenwood's FR. It doesn't matter what he claimed or his intentions, it wasn't his.

[Atlantico]

It's like this. When people are introduced to roleplaying during adolescence, their reaction is either:

"wow I've always wanted to play a knight fighting evil orcs"

or

"I want to play a woman and have sex with elves"

These are not the same kinds of people and they're not talking about the same thing.

[Roguey]

I looked into this a bit. Attractive bisexual women were only the ones mentioned pre-social contagion. I can really only find normalized homosexuality during the start of the social contagion (man-buns, metrosexuals, and emo ****) when everyone was getting on the gay agenda bandwagon.

Yeah, straight guys find male homosexuality disgusting and either have to mindbreak themselves to depict it or actively hire fujoshi or gay men to write it for them.

[Tangerine]

It's be easier to just not.

[Roguey]

It's be easier to just not.

Not if you're a liberal who's committed to being inclusive. I recall reading an interview with a liberal author on the topic of "forced diversity" and his response was something along the lines of "Yes, of course it's forced. You have to force it and keep forcing it until it becomes natural."

[Demonic Fate]

TSR's FR was never Greenwood's FR. It doesn't matter what he claimed or his intentions, it wasn't his.

Such a shame we never got to play as one of the Heralds of Faerun, who go around yelling at lords and kings for using the wrong shade of grey when painting a boar's head on their banner, and this somehow makes them an extremely respected and feared society instead of a bunch of autistic dweebs.

(In fairness, I think Greenwood was being a bit tongue-in-cheek by putting his heraldry club in the setting. He's never taken the FR entirely seriously, which was probably for the best.)

[Acrux]

He's never taken the FR entirely seriously, which was probably for the best.)

Creators not taking their works seriously has given us 80% of the awful slop we see now.