Why elves are jewish street rats in Dragon Age

[SoLong]

Please do not internalize ADL propaganda by automatically associating any persecuted minority with ****. They do not have a monopoly on victimhood.

Now I only played one game and a half in that series, but I do not remember the part in Dragon Age where elves were involved in usury, coin clipping, prostitution, or liquor distillation. Nor even the part where they got diaspora'd after rebelling against the empire; their country was destroyed by a crusade, which I guess could make them vaguely similar to Armenians if you squint.

Elves in Dragon age were explicitly modeled after ****

Given the ******** in Veilguard, wouldn't this mean that they lost their homeland due to their own incompetence and stupidity, rather than the Christianity analogue oppressing them?

Granted, that sounds much closer to reality, but I can't see them intentionally writing it like that. Seems to honest.

[Vergil]

**** have a homeland now but Whites have nowhere to go to escape the brown hordes so once against Aryans fit better.

[ArcaneLurker]

https://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/ ... ge-were-at

The initial inspiration for the elves actually came from Jewish people—consider the lost homeland, the existence of Jewish ghettos in many medieval cities, etc.

Honestly **** continually do this "what if **** were cool" type thing, totally glossing over why we hate them, and forgetting that they should never have even been in our lands in the first place.

In Elden Ring, there's an even stronger connection between the merchant people and the ****, but it's still through the framing of **** being completely innocent, and the anti-Semites being crazy yet somehow magically influential enough to convince everyone of lies.

**** have a homeland now but Whites have nowhere to go to escape the brown hordes so once against Aryans fit better.

Exactly, the Elves were displaced by a flood of humans, but it was their land originally-- not talking about "Native American" kind of ownership where they dot between open plains in huts, I mean they built a civilisation there.
**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

[fkirenicus]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

[Vergil]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

This user is jewish fyi

[Stack of Turtles]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

The Roman Empire was Christian from its inception. Christ founded Rome.

[fkirenicus]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

The Roman Empire was Christian from its inception. Christ founded Rome.

Did he also think of putting christians and lions on the same bill?
You do know that the romans sent many christians to their deaths, often in a horrendous fashion?

[Stack of Turtles]

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

The Roman Empire was Christian from its inception. Christ founded Rome.

Did he also think of putting christians and lions on the same bill?
You do know that the romans sent many christians to their deaths, often in a horrendous fashion?

Never happened. That's just Jewish propaganda.

[Vergil]

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

The Roman Empire was Christian from its inception. Christ founded Rome.

Did he also think of putting christians and lions on the same bill?
You do know that the romans sent many christians to their deaths, often in a horrendous fashion?

Zero, didnt happen

[fkirenicus]

You guys have as much understanding of history as that Elie Mystal dude. Completely unhinged.

[Vergil]

You guys are about as enlightened and deranged as AOC or that Mystal dude. Utterly bonkers.

What do you mean?

[ArcaneLurker]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

Whining that you got your asses beat after murdering Christian Semites & Romans in the streets like the greedy little terrorists you are.

My point is that ***** migrated into North-Western Europe for no ******* reason other than to be a plague upon us. The Romans didn't drag their asses into Poland or England.

[Stack of Turtles]

**** are nomadic parasites that intentionally migrated to Christian lands, so it doesn't fit at all.

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

Whining that you got your asses beat after murdering Christian Semites & Romans in the streets like the greedy little terrorists you are.

My point is that ***** migrated into North-Western Europe for no ******* reason other than to be a plague upon us. The Romans didn't drag their asses into Poland or England.

The Romans didn't drag them anywhere. Genetic tests show that Ashkenazi descend from a single founding group in the early middle ages. If there were Roman ****, they didn't survive the fall of Rome, probably because **** don't farm or produce anything of their own.

[ArcaneLurker]

Two words for you: Bar Kokhba.
The **** did not intentionally migrate to christian lands. In 135 AD there were no christian lands. There was the Roman empire, which after 2 failed rebellions by the hebrews decided to put an end to such things permanently by among other things creating the diaspora/exiling the **** from the province of Judea, and dispering them and settling them in other parts of the empire.
**** had migrated to Rome earlier, yes, but with the failed rebellions ca. 70 and 135 AD the scale increased significantly (and not necessarily "intentionally").
And: the Roman empire did not become christian until about 200 years after the last failed rebellion.

Whining that you got your asses beat after murdering Christian Semites & Romans in the streets like the greedy little terrorists you are.

My point is that ***** migrated into North-Western Europe for no ******* reason other than to be a plague upon us. The Romans didn't drag their asses into Poland or England.

The Romans didn't drag them anywhere. Genetic tests show that Ashkenazi descend from a single founding group in the early middle ages. If there were Roman ****, they didn't survive the fall of Rome, probably because **** don't farm or produce anything of their own.

I know, yes, thanks for clarifying that, and why would they want to?
But the point is that the **** migrated to the Northwest of their own volition, into territory that they considered to be enemy territory, and then proceeded to passive aggressively exploit & abuse locals, pissing them off, only to get exiled again and again, despite the Church trying to protect them.

[Stack of Turtles]

Whining that you got your asses beat after murdering Christian Semites & Romans in the streets like the greedy little terrorists you are.

My point is that ***** migrated into North-Western Europe for no ******* reason other than to be a plague upon us. The Romans didn't drag their asses into Poland or England.

The Romans didn't drag them anywhere. Genetic tests show that Ashkenazi descend from a single founding group in the early middle ages. If there were Roman ****, they didn't survive the fall of Rome, probably because **** don't farm or produce anything of their own.

I know, yes, thanks for clarifying that, and why would they want to?
But the point is that the **** migrated to the Northwest of their own volition, into territory that they considered to be enemy territory, and then proceeded to passive aggressively exploit & abuse locals, pissing them off, only to get exiled again and again, despite the Church trying to protect them.

I agree, more just reminding you not to take fkirenicus seriously in the first place.

[Hurtyy]

No. You're the reason tieflings are treated like normal people in BG3

I think writers should not come up with a plot that requires removing core features of their first installment and if the game is going to be full of inconsistency and not caring about the lore then I especially don't really care about the paper thin "lore" justifications for it.

Nobody besides women want to play as a street jew

I think you are projecting. But then again it doesn't surprise me you want less roleplaying in RPGs. I want more RPGs that let me play Schizophrenic hobos like VtMB. I am tired of chosen one's stories or even being special for some contrived reason or another, I want more stories involving you being a nobody who ultimately triumphs (or fails) do to your own efforts and cleverness

[ArcaneLurker]

I think writers should not come up with a plot that requires removing core features of their first installment and if the game is going to be full of inconsistency and not caring about the lore then I especially don't really care about the paper thin "lore" justifications for it.

Nobody besides women want to play as a street jew

I think you are projecting. But then again it doesn't surprise me you want less roleplaying in RPGs. I want more RPGs that let me play Schizophrenic hobos like VtMB. I am tired of chosen one's stories or even being special for some contrived reason or another, I want more stories involving you being a nobody who ultimately triumphs (or fails) do to your own efforts and cleverness

Rusty means nobody but women want to play the Dragon Age elves, which doesn't really have what you mentioned.

viewtopic.php?p=202887-hero-s-adventure ... re#p202887
A nobody who ultimately triumphs or fails due to your own efforts.

[fkirenicus]

The Romans didn't drag them anywhere. Genetic tests show that Ashkenazi descend from a single founding group in the early middle ages. If there were Roman ****, they didn't survive the fall of Rome, probably because **** don't farm or produce anything of their own.

Partly true. There is however little certain historical evidence that can give us a clear picture of how **** migrated after the fall of Rome, simply because some adapted to new rule and became christians (and, in the eastern provinces later converted to islam) and some tried to escape (further west, north and east away from the christian empire) to preserve their culture and identity (which some regarded as more important than life itself).
If memory serves, a jew is by themselves (and those have persecuted them) defined as one who has a mother that regards herself jewish (this is a topic I haven't studied since the late 90s as I have been working in a completely different area than history all my working life). So it might well be that the ashkenazi aren't able to track their line back to Roman times, since they are people of different ethnic stock than the original hebrews (romani and slav, among others).
Jew DID survive the fall of Rome, and were in fact more or less enslaved by the catholics, treated especially bad in the 1500s, when they were relocated and forced into a tiny area which even today bears the name the Jewish Quarter in Rome - where you can find some of the very best restaurants and food stuffs Rome can offer. The **** were poor, but their dishes, made from what produce they were able to grow in their ghettos, are absolutely wonderful. Try Carciofi alla giudia, for example.

[fkirenicus]

My point is that ***** migrated into North-Western Europe for no ******* reason other than to be a plague upon us. The Romans didn't drag their asses into Poland or England.

That's right, that happened after the Roman empire. Also even after the Roman empire became christian: some tried to escape persecution by both first christians and later on muslims.

[fkirenicus]

But the point is that the **** migrated to the Northwest of their own volition, into territory that they considered to be enemy territory, and then proceeded to passive aggressively exploit & abuse locals, pissing them off, only to get exiled again and again, despite the Church trying to protect them.

Again, the **** came to e.g. the Baltics long before those lands became christian, often as a result to try and escape christian persecution. Like the romani, some of them behaved poorly, but in many circumstances they were useful scapegoats for both local land lords and superstitious mobs when something bad that otherwise couldn't be explained happen.
Yes, the church tried to protect them in some cases; in others the church was the reason they were persecuted.

And so ends the history lesson. You'll probably fail any exam by your own volition anyway, so I won't bother more - for now.

[maidenhaver]

You guys have as much understanding of history as that Elie Mystal dude. Completely unhinged.

Your rabbis claim more **** died in the revolt than there people living on earth, and that the young were rolled up in scrolls and burned. None of it happened.

[fkirenicus]

Your rabbis claim more **** died in the revolt than there people living on earth, and that the young were rolled up in scrolls and burned. None of it happened.

"Your rabbis"? I am not a jew. I am culturally christian and agnostic by nature as well as choice.

[ArcaneLurker]

But the point is that the **** migrated to the Northwest of their own volition, into territory that they considered to be enemy territory, and then proceeded to passive aggressively exploit & abuse locals, pissing them off, only to get exiled again and again, despite the Church trying to protect them.

Again, the **** came to e.g. the Baltics long before those lands became christian, often as a result to try and escape christian persecution. Like the romani, some of them behaved poorly, but in many circumstances they were useful scapegoats for both local land lords and superstitious mobs when something bad that otherwise couldn't be explained happen.
Yes, the church tried to protect them in some cases; in others the church was the reason they were persecuted.

And so ends the history lesson. You'll probably fail any exam by your own volition anyway, so I won't bother more - for now.

You are an abject ****** if you believe that the **** were in England before England had been converted to Christianity.

[fkirenicus]

You are an abject ****** if you believe that the **** were in England before England had been converted to Christianity.

By ca. 400 AD there probably weren't (m)any **** in England, no. Then again, there was no England at that time (Winchester, Northumbria...). They gradually moved north-west during the dark and medieval ages. They followed trade, crafts and generally sought livelyhood just as the vikings did from the north.

[Vergil]

, so I won't bother more - for now.

**** off already then

[traxtan]

He can't read your posts.

[ArcaneLurker]

You are an abject ****** if you believe that the **** were in England before England had been converted to Christianity.

By ca. 400 AD there probably weren't (m)any **** in England, no. Then again, there was no England at that time (Winchester, Northumbria...). They gradually moved north-west during the dark and medieval ages. They followed trade, crafts and generally sought livelyhood just as the vikings did from the north.

Are you so ******* ******** that you can't understand what I'm saying? Why are you going on about 400 AD?

They came to our countries of their own volition, despite whining about our existence, and no amount of ****** Christian mental gymnastics will change this.
What you mean by "trade" & "crafts" are fresh masses to exploit as a parasite class.
Not only did they come to live amongst us, knowing they were not welcome, knowing that it's unnatural for them to be in our lands, they refused to assimilate, segregated themselves and abused whatever trust was generously & foolishly offered. Then once they were justifiably exiled from a country, they worked towards gaining entry into it again-- because they're not victims at all.

[Vergil]

He can't read your posts.

He's quoted me in this very thread. Like every other person who ignores someone out of butthurt he obsessively presses display ignored posts anyway.
He's been doing this for months now.
Try and be aware of what's going on before your snippy little posts correcting me

[traxtan]

He can't read your posts.

He's quoted me in this very thread. Like every other person who ignores someone out of butthurt he obsessively presses display ignored posts anyway.
He's been doing this for months now.

Oh I didn't know there was a button to show them
When I had people ignored I only saw their posts when others replying to them.

[Vergil]

He can't read your posts.

He's quoted me in this very thread. Like every other person who ignores someone out of butthurt he obsessively presses display ignored posts anyway.
He's been doing this for months now.

Oh I didn't know there was a button to show them
When I had people ignored I only saw their posts when others replying to them.

Now apologize and kiss me on my hot mouth maggot