Hooray: ****** gamedevs being fired thread

[rusty_shackleford]

What may have been Baldur's Gate 4 has been cancelled https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/wiza ... t-canceled

Has this been a great day or what?

I told you all WoTC did not have the money to do this and not even Hasbro was foolish enough to fund it.

We are pretending that MtG doesn't make enough money to fund a videogame now? Okay.

They'd have to justify taking money away from MtG to fund a D&D product when D&D isn't very profitable(if at all, it rarely shows up in Hasbro's earning reports in recent years while MtG is a headliner)

People vastly overestimate the amount of money D&D makes. The mere royalties from BG3 were probably worth years of everything else D&D related combined, except perhaps the movie.

[Cloharp7]

I told you all WoTC did not have the money to do this and not even Hasbro was foolish enough to fund it.

We are pretending that MtG doesn't make enough money to fund a videogame now? Okay.

They'd have to justify taking money away from MtG to fund a D&D product when D&D isn't very profitable(if at all, it rarely shows up in Hasbro's earning reports in recent years while MtG is a headliner)

People vastly overestimate the amount of money D&D makes. The mere royalties from BG3 were probably worth years of everything else D&D related combined, except perhaps the movie.

Agreed. It is street knowledge that only the DMs usually buy the books, or they are shared within a group. Hence WotC trying to digitalize everything with DnD Beyond and their upcoming ****** mobile app I'm not even bothered to remember the name of.

[gerey]

https://archive.ph/RNvd8

lol

lmao

Warner Bros. Shuts Down Three Game Studios, Cancels Wonder Woman Title

Warner Bros. Discovery Inc. is closing three video-game studios and halting work on a highly anticipated Wonder Woman title in a bid to boost the profitability of its interactive entertainment business.
Monolith Productions, Player First Games and Warner Bros. Games San Diego are being shuttered, according to a memo to staff viewed by Bloomberg News.

[UltraFan123]

The idea of Wonder Woman starring in a solo game is peak woke, and even if there was a chance that a game like that could've been good, we're all certain that it would've been a DEI abomination if it was made these days.

[J1M]

We are pretending that MtG doesn't make enough money to fund a videogame now? Okay.

I think you're underestimating the difficulty, complexity and costs involved in attempting such an endavour.

Let's assume that Hasbro has no wish to fund a monstrosity like Baldur's Gate 3, they want a more manageable project - that still requires them to either buy or create a developer with the necessary skills to make a competent cRPG, which next to imsims is one of the most difficult types of games to develop for.

Does Hasbro have a cool $100 to $200 million laying around to buy/create such a developer? Do they have the surplus cash necessary to finance this team for 5+ years, since the team would first need to settle in and get a pipeline going? Would they even risk starting such a project, knowing it would be a woke monstrosity, in the current political climate?

Yes, they are printing money by putting final fantasy characters on magic cards.

"They can't afford to do the D&D thing that made them more money than the other D&D things." Okay.

[Acrux]

I told you all WoTC did not have the money to do this and not even Hasbro was foolish enough to fund it.

We are pretending that MtG doesn't make enough money to fund a videogame now? Okay.

They'd have to justify taking money away from MtG to fund a D&D product when D&D isn't very profitable(if at all, it rarely shows up in Hasbro's earning reports in recent years while MtG is a headliner)

People vastly overestimate the amount of money D&D makes. The mere royalties from BG3 were probably worth years of everything else D&D related combined, except perhaps the movie.

In fact, Hasbro was down for the last quarter in the most recent earnings report last week. They gave the numbers for MtG and said it was because some cycle was ending, but didn't mention D&D at all which makes me think it's doing pretty badly.

In fact, I saw this yesterday that basically confirms how badly 5E 2024 is doing. Even Mike Mearls has said they haven't given people any good reasons to purchase the latest stuff.

[rusty_shackleford]

We are pretending that MtG doesn't make enough money to fund a videogame now? Okay.

I think you're underestimating the difficulty, complexity and costs involved in attempting such an endavour.

Let's assume that Hasbro has no wish to fund a monstrosity like Baldur's Gate 3, they want a more manageable project - that still requires them to either buy or create a developer with the necessary skills to make a competent cRPG, which next to imsims is one of the most difficult types of games to develop for.

Does Hasbro have a cool $100 to $200 million laying around to buy/create such a developer? Do they have the surplus cash necessary to finance this team for 5+ years, since the team would first need to settle in and get a pipeline going? Would they even risk starting such a project, knowing it would be a woke monstrosity, in the current political climate?

Yes, they are printing money by putting final fantasy characters on magic cards.

"They can't afford to do the D&D thing that made them more money than the other D&D things." Okay.

Their other video game ventures have been complete failures

[UltraFan123]

The thing about DnD is that most people - even their formerly loyal playerbase which is just as woke as they are - had their trust in them completely shattered because of the OGL fiasco which made a huge scandal, and a side effect of that circus was that many people looked for and found suitable tabletop alternatives, so it doesn't matters what WotC does to try and regain the trust of the people because a good chunk of their playerbase is now playing something else.

[SoLong]

The thing about DnD is that most people - even their formerly loyal playerbase which is just as woke as they are - had their trust in them completely shattered because of the OGL fiasco which made a huge scandal, and a side effect of that circus was that many people looked for and found suitable tabletop alternatives, so it doesn't matters what WotC does to try and regain the trust of the people because a good chunk of their playerbase is now playing something else.

The problem is that their loyal playerbase is shrinking. Wokies are many things, but loyal is not one of them. The majority of these people don't decide what they consume, they are told what to consume. Once the season turns and the next new thing becomes fashionable, they're gone and not coming back.

Warlocks of the **** ****** on their loyal customer base in order to chase a larger, but more generic and most importantly fickle group, assuming that their loyal customers would stay loyal, even though they were a) growing older, b) getting increasingly annoyed with WotC for watering down the game and shoving their awful PC **** in there and c) were treated like **** by the company and media alike.

Gygax built an empire, now his inbred, spoilt and ******** heirs are pissing it all away. It's a tragedy Shakespeare would've written about if he was a huge nerd.

[traxtan]

8 years in development just to get canceled lmao, the last game they released was Shadow Of War in 2017.

[Acrux]

Gygax built an empire, now his inbred, spoilt and ******** heirs are pissing it all away.

Except that they aren't his heirs. They usurpers.

[rusty_shackleford]

hehe lorraine williams

[wndrbr]

You'd have to suffer from terminal brainrot to try to make a sequel to BG3. There is not a single studio that exists that could do it.

If they had Larian's toolset/engine they could make an Obsidian-style sequel, that's not impossible.

Not even larian was capable of making BG3 after Larian handed it off to them .
Interpret from that what you will.

the question isn't whether the other studio can make a game on the same level as BG3, but rather whether some other studio can make a slamdunk cashgrab called "bg4" and get a lot of money from the naive consumers who liked BG3 and wanted a sequel. Yes it is entirely possible.

[gerey]

8 years in development just to get canceled lmao, the last game they released was Shadow Of War in 2017.

The funny thing is that alleged insiders leaked that the reason the game was stuck in dev hell for so long is that the developers (most of whom are likely brown and/or female) were incapable off making the game fun, and couldn't get the Nemesis system to work.

Another studio killed by the competency crisis.

[Kain]

Too bad, KD2 is selling like hot cakes. All you need to do is put a white dude in medieval armor and ride on a horse as cover and voilà profit. It doesn't matter if people find out he is a ****** later.

[Marcus]

Too bad, KD2 is selling like hot cakes.

Is that really true, though? @rusty_shackleford

[Irenaeus]

Too bad, KD2 is selling like hot cakes. All you need to do is put a white dude in medieval armor and ride on a horse as cover and voilà profit. It doesn't matter if people find out he is a ****** later.

This is disingenuous; the game would be selling an order of magnitude more if it wasn't gay, anti-Christian and anti-White.

[Kain]

The number speaks for itself.
https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/king ... -two-weeks

[Fox1]

The number speaks for itself.
https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/king ... -two-weeks

I wonder if any refunds would still be counted in the "sales" number

[Kain]

I wonder if any refunds would still be counted in the "sales" number

Two hours is not long enough for most players to discover the nature of this game.

[Wretch]

I wonder if any refunds would still be counted in the "sales" number

Two hours is not long enough for most players to discover the nature of this game.

Hypothetically you have to fight the game devs. Either you get to wear armor or they get to armor. What is your choice and why?

[maidenhaver]

Too bad, KD2 is selling like hot cakes. All you need to do is put a white dude in medieval armor and ride on a horse as cover and voilà profit. It doesn't matter if people find out he is a ****** later.

This is disingenuous; the game would be selling an order of magnitude more if it wasn't gay, anti-Christian and anti-White.

No. Tradcaths/ orthobros and White Men aren't orders of magnitude more than fake numbers and ****-swilling npcs.

[maidenhaver]

I'm glad digital escapism is getting shittier. I want actual escapism to increase.

[Element]

Ngl this one doesn't bring any joy whatsoever. Whatever their recent misfortunes, they cranked out some phenomenal titles and never really fell off the way that Obsidian or Bioware did.

[J1M]

Ngl this one doesn't bring any joy whatsoever. Whatever their recent misfortunes, they cranked out some phenomenal titles and never really fell off the way that Obsidian or Bioware did.

The people that did those things stopped working there a long time ago.

[Element]

Ngl this one doesn't bring any joy whatsoever. Whatever their recent misfortunes, they cranked out some phenomenal titles and never really fell off the way that Obsidian or Bioware did.

The people that did those things stopped working there a long time ago.

Sure, but unlike others who started pumping out games to match Mono just closed up shop and didn't tarnish their name. At least afaik.

[J1M]

Ngl this one doesn't bring any joy whatsoever. Whatever their recent misfortunes, they cranked out some phenomenal titles and never really fell off the way that Obsidian or Bioware did.

The people that did those things stopped working there a long time ago.

Sure, but unlike others who started pumping out games to match Mono just closed up shop and didn't tarnish their name. At least afaik.

Strange way to type "lost the ability to ship a finished product".

[Finarfin]

Ngl this one doesn't bring any joy whatsoever. Whatever their recent misfortunes, they cranked out some phenomenal titles and never really fell off the way that Obsidian or Bioware did.

Gameplay-wise I agree with you, but they also did some woke stuff. Not as bad as Rangz of Power but still. They did create a far eastern empire with chinese influences so that was kinda interesting but then they had to make Riya and Yuka "The Nazgûl Sisters" ? Really?

[Oyster Sauce]

Beat the first Shadow of War expansion which hilariously reveals that two of the Nazgul are

► Show Spoiler

Twin Ming Bing Lao Chinese Wuxia Dynasty Warriors



Also a very bizarre post-LOTR sequel hook that sucks.

Don't think I can be bothered to play the Hammerfell expansion.

[Wretch]

Too bad, KD2 is selling like hot cakes. All you need to do is put a white dude in medieval armor and ride on a horse as cover and voilà profit. It doesn't matter if people find out he is a ****** later.

This is disingenuous; the game would be selling an order of magnitude more if it wasn't gay, anti-Christian and anti-White.

No. Tradcaths/ orthobros and White Men aren't orders of magnitude more than fake numbers and ****-swilling npcs.

I don’t honestly even understand what levels of ******** pseudo-Christianity this is but genuinely I hope
you get right with God. God is VERY real. Hopefully you stop caring about what others say and find Him.